gogo2146 Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 I play in a keeper league and my team is a bit thin this year but have been offered a trade a 2 for 1. If I keep my team the way it is a will be a little weak at rb. Here it is. S. Jackson, R. moss, Reggie Brown, B. Edwards, P. Rivers or G. Jennings If I make this trade I can Have any two of these rb's E. James, Westbrook, MJD, B. Westbrook, D. Williams What make sense? I also have the #4 pick in the first round and can waite it out. Let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 DEFINETELY. I'd trade SJax for the two Westbrooks. If he decides to take one of the board Westbrook and MJD would do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Def. Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Unless its a PPR league, I would not make that trade. Westbrook is good, MJD = split carries, James still has a questionable line, and Williams is probably going to have some sharing issues too. I don't think you are getting the value that you should for the #2 scorer in most leagues last year. NO PPR = NO Yes PPR = Maybe (but still leaning towards no.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locness_Monster Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 I would not do that trade. ARI still has not addressed the inadequacies at OL. First rule of football: dominate the LOS. JAC is still a RBBC situation, although they do have a favorable schedule to run against. Westbrook is good, but SJax is younger, plays in a softer division, and has the better frame for an NFL #1 RB. Who's D. Williams? You mean the former D. Davis? He's done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonorator Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 i'd rather build around jackson. what kind of RBs will be available? if anything decent is there, pairing him with sj should be just as strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDFFFreak Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 (edited) I think I might have to consider the trade in a PPR league. Westy and MJD are pretty solid with the catching and I'd roll the dice that one of them won't be too far behind Jackson in fantasy points. Non PPR league, I wouldn't touch the deal. Westbrook is great in a PPR league, but a low tier 2, high tier 3 RB in a non PPR leagues. MJD is worth even less in a non PPR. Edited July 13, 2007 by TDFFFreak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 oops. Assumed PPR for some reason. Who will be available with that 4 pick? btw the rest of your team is weak so I would say right now without knowing to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 ARI still has not addressed the inadequacies at OL. First rule of football: dominate the LOS. Are you living in a cave? They took an elite tackle at 5 to protect Leinarts blindside, oh yeah, and they hired the best O line coach in the league. The cards O line started to find the pieces they needed in the last month. Latui from USC is going to be a monster after a years worth of experiance, and Grimm working with him. Arizona absolutley adressed the line. Sure, its not perfect, but they made hugh leaps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Are you living in a cave? They took an elite tackle at 5 to protect Leinarts blindside, oh yeah, and they hired the best O line coach in the league. The cards O line started to find the pieces they needed in the last month. Latui from USC is going to be a monster after a years worth of experiance, and Grimm working with him. Arizona absolutley adressed the line. Sure, its not perfect, but they made hugh leaps... Yeah who knows how long Grimm will be there, but they had a great offseason in improving that line. Was hoping ATL would get Brown... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogo2146 Posted July 13, 2007 Author Share Posted July 13, 2007 It is a ppr league. You think Ronnie Brown is out of the question here. I was thinking Westbrook, R. Brown for Jackson would help me out for years to come. This is a five player keeper league so do the math on what will be around at #4 all good rookies gone and so so rb's left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 It is a ppr league. You think Ronnie Brown is out of the question here. I was thinking Westbrook, R. Brown for Jackson would help me out for years to come. This is a five player keeper league so do the math on what will be around at #4 all good rookies gone and so so rb's left. Right you're not going to get much with that pick. If you can get Ronnie Brown with Westbrook go for it. Westy is probably a top 5 in this league and with Cameron in MIA Brown has plenty of room to grow, as long as Booker doesn't get in the way. At least with this deal you'll be able to have a decent starting lineup. MJD is closer but I'd still do it. It's uncertain how he'll do this year but in a keeper he's showed the talent to be near the Top 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Are you living in a cave? They took an elite tackle at 5 to protect Leinarts blindside, We'll see about that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 (edited) Hard to believe there are all these answers ands strong opinions and no one has asked a very important question: What draft position do you have? It also might help to know if you are required to start 2 RBs or if you can go 1 RB with a flex psoition. Based upon your keepers, I'm guessing that you didn't finish too highly in the league rankings. The question, of course, if whether Jackson and what RB (or flex) might be available to you when you pick is worth Westbrook & MJD, plus then losing either Rivers, Edwards, or Brown since you also lose a keeper slot by acquiring an extra player. I'm willing to bet that you won't make out in the deal when you look at it as a grouping of players plus the lose of the keeper slot. Edited July 13, 2007 by Bronco Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogo2146 Posted July 13, 2007 Author Share Posted July 13, 2007 Hard to believe there are all these answers ands strong opinions and no one has asked a very important question: What draft position do you have? It also might help to know if you are required to start 2 RBs or if you can go 1 RB with a flex psoition. Based upon your keepers, I'm guessing that you didn't finish too highly in the league rankings. The question, of course, if whether Jackson and what RB (or flex) might be available to you when you pick is worth Westbrook & MJD, plus then losing either Rivers, Edwards, or Brown since you also lose a keeper slot by acquiring an extra player. I'm willing to bet that you won't make out in the deal when you look at it as a grouping of players plus the lose of the keeper slot. Bronco Billy, you have some good points. Last season I had Dillon, L. Jordan and R. Brown and Boldin. When Jordan went down and Dillon slowed I traded for S. Jackson. ( Boldin, Brown for S. Jackson and Moss I had other receivers that put up Boldin like numbers I needed a RB and this worked}. Still finshed in the top 5 we also have IDPs which I make up alot of ground with Z. Thomas, A. Wilison(AZ) which are not keepers. I pick number four in the draft at this point most rookies that could help will be gone but who knows all I need is someone to take a D upfront (Chi, Balt, NE) then in in for AP, Lynch, Johnson) Some ok rb's will be left but don't know yet people have not stated their keepers til Aug 25th So what do you think? Hang with what I have or go for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 (edited) Bronco Billy, you have some good points. Last season I had Dillon, L. Jordan and R. Brown and Boldin. When Jordan went down and Dillon slowed I traded for S. Jackson. ( Boldin, Brown for S. Jackson and Moss I had other receivers that put up Boldin like numbers I needed a RB and this worked}. Still finshed in the top 5 we also have IDPs which I make up alot of ground with Z. Thomas, A. Wilison(AZ) which are not keepers. I pick number four in the draft at this point most rookies that could help will be gone but who knows all I need is someone to take a D upfront (Chi, Balt, NE) then in in for AP, Lynch, Johnson) Some ok rb's will be left but don't know yet people have not stated their keepers til Aug 25th So what do you think? Hang with what I have or go for it? #4 in the draft? Then there is no way I make that move. The absolutely worst case scenario I see for you is that Brandon Jackson will be there, but I'd guess there will be some decent options, especially in an IDP league where I'm sure guys like Ryans & Bullucks would be difficult for owners to part with if LB scoring is anything meaningful. I can't see any way that, provided Jackson styas healthy, that you would would gain cumulative pts in that trade. Edited July 13, 2007 by Bronco Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 NO WAY do I do this move. Jackson and RB "x" will be better than Westbrook and MJD. It is that simple. In fantasy football, even more so in keeper league, you do not trade studs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReturnToSender Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 is it PPR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogo2146 Posted July 14, 2007 Author Share Posted July 14, 2007 Yes, it's a PPR league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 is it PPR? No, he said in the earlier post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogo2146 Posted July 14, 2007 Author Share Posted July 14, 2007 NO WAY do I do this move. Jackson and RB "x" will be better than Westbrook and MJD. It is that simple. In fantasy football, even more so in keeper league, you do not trade studs. I know Jackson is a stud but you can't tell me that Westbrook with Ronnie Brown or E. James or MJD in a keeper leaggue is not at good if not better then Jackson and G. Jennings or P. Rivers Thats what I would drop If I did a two for one. Roster before trade Jackson,Reggie Brown, R. Moss,B. Edwards,G. Jennings ( Had Dillon and L. Jordan but will drop them} Roster after trade any two of these James, Westbrook, MJD, Westbrook or E. James, with Reggie Brown, B. Edwards and R. Moss We start any combo of rb's and wr's must start one of them also it's a IDP league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asskickas Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 I know Jackson is a stud but you can't tell me that Westbrook with Ronnie Brown or E. James or MJD in a keeper leaggue is not at good if not better thenJackson and G. Jennings or P. Rivers Thats what I would drop If I did a two for one. Roster before trade Jackson,Reggie Brown, R. Moss,B. Edwards,G. Jennings ( Had Dillon and L. Jordan but will drop them} Roster after trade any two of these James, Westbrook, MJD, Westbrook or E. James, with Reggie Brown, B. Edwards and R. Moss We start any combo of rb's and wr's must start one of them also it's a IDP league. If you are trying to win this year then I would get Edge and Westbrook. Reports are that the Cards will rush the ball 500+ times this year with the new coaching staff and get JJ Arrington more involved. There will still be plenty of toouches for Edge which will give him more solid numbers than last year. You could also go with Westy and MJD and still be in good shape. The only problem is that next year you might not want to keep Westy due to age or an injury and the Sjax owner will likely get have the last laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soco Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 I say take a gamble in a PPR Westy is a stud if you want to be safe SJ is a good safe start to your team so build it around him .... good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardrocker Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 NO WAY do I do this move. Jackson and RB "x" will be better than Westbrook and MJD. It is that simple. In fantasy football, even more so in keeper league, you do not trade studs. I have to agree with this comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 is it PPR? Yes, it's a PPR league. No, he said in the earlier post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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