broncosn05 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 That law was signed in May of 2007. This story has been out there longer than that, so would this law be applicable to this case? Where is Big Score, isn't he the resident Vick smoker? Saw that as well and asked myself the same question. Beaumont's link also says the law focuses on the importing of dogs. Looks like president Bush doesn't have a Vick jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaumont Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 That law was signed in May of 2007. This story has been out there longer than that, so would this law be applicable to this case? Where is Big Score, isn't he the resident Vick smoker, uh I mean apologist? Dunno. Good article here ... http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2905920 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Goodell Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 In a related event, Roger Goodell announced that next week he and Mike Vick were going to be having the "most exciting" meeting in the NFL!! No I didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 I'm asking a question on the severity that a sentencing would bring forth. Not the correctness of an illegal activity, bud. Gotcha...I misinterpreted. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraftykraft Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 That law was signed in May of 2007. This story has been out there longer than that, so would this law be applicable to this case? Where is Big Score, isn't he the resident Vick smoker, uh I mean apologist? The offense occurred before May of this year, so I would think that prosecuting him under the law would constitute "ex post facto" prosecution, and wouldn't be possible. However, there might be older, less harsh statutes on the books that would apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 No I didn't. If this was your first post, you could not have timed it any better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Dunno. Good article here ... http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2905920 Yep remember reading that now. So it's a felony if found guilty, 5 year max. Who are these other 3 guys btw? And will Boddie's, the cousin, charges be brought forward next? http://myespn.go.com/conversation/story?id...amp;section=nfl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 The offense occurred before May of this year, so I would think that prosecuting him under the law would constitute "ex post facto" prosecution, and wouldn't be possible. However, there might be older, less harsh statutes on the books that would apply. There are probably dog fighting and/or animal cruelty laws in Virginia and Surry County as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 No I didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 crumpler is crumbling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 (edited) There are probably dog fighting and/or animal cruelty laws in Virginia and Surry County as well. Yes, but this makes it a felony, from what I read. And, I don't have the specific link open, but wasn't this signed by Bush as a federal law and wouldn't that make it active in Virginia? that ESPN link is the one that says the law passed in May 2007 now makes..... Edited July 17, 2007 by broncosn05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 There are probably dog fighting and/or animal cruelty laws in Virginia and Surry County as well. You think this might get Poindexter off his charges of racism and also get him off his ass to do finally something other than putting up smokescreens for Vick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Yes, but this makes it a felony, from what I read. And, I don't have the specific link open, but wasn't this signed by Bush as a federal law and wouldn't that make it active in Virginia? Only if the charges occurred after the day that the Federal law went into effect. Either way, Vick appears to be in serious trouble. Something tells me that he's not going to jail, but I think that he's in for a suspension and I wouldn't be surprised if the Falcons cut him (assuming that they can absorb the cap hit). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 You think this might get Poindexter off his charges of racism and also get him off his ass to do finally something other than putting up smokescreens for Vick? No, I'm not THAT naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Yes, but this makes it a felony, from what I read. And, I don't have the specific link open, but wasn't this signed by Bush as a federal law and wouldn't that make it active in Virginia? Where's that Schoolhouse Rock episode when you need it...? Yes, Federal Law applies to Virginia, barring a succession in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Only if the charges occurred after the day that the Federal law went into effect. Either way, Vick appears to be in serious trouble. Something tells me that he's not going to jail, but I think that he's in for a suspension and I wouldn't be surprised if the Falcons cut him (assuming that they can absorb the cap hit). Agreed that ie really looks to be in trouble this time. Methinks the Commish is not going to let him off without a suspension, but I would be shocked if the Falcons cut him. I know that Blank gave Vick a "stern talking to," but he is not going to let his "franchise" player go for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 over / under on how many pages this thread gets before it is locked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Where's that Schoolhouse Rock episode when you need it...? Yes, Federal Law applies to Virginia, barring a succession in the near future. I was always a fan of "Conjunction Junction" myself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 I wouldn't be surprised if the Falcons cut him (assuming that they can absorb the cap hit). ATL will most probably try to recoup its cap space based upon the morals clause or whatever it is in the CBA that prohibits conduct detrimental to the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 over / under on how many pages this thread gets before it is locked? It's a Michael Vick thread...this thing could drag on well into the season. I'd say that it goes 15 pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 ATL will most probably try to recoup its cap space based upon the morals clause or whatever it is in the CBA that prohibits conduct detrimental to the club. I'm pretty sure teams ability to recoup bonus money was something they agreed to give up in the most recent bargaining session. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Agreed that ie really looks to be in trouble this time. Methinks the Commish is not going to let him off without a suspension, but I would be shocked if the Falcons cut him. I know that Blank gave Vick a "stern talking to," but he is not going to let his "franchise" player go for nothing. Methinks that Blank was putting on a happy face when talking to the media, but is pissed as hell at his $100 million investment behind closed doors. I really think that he dumps him sooner rather than later. The only thing that might keep him from doing so is the cap hit. And with a diminished-skills Culpepper a free agent now, they have a reasonably-priced potential replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 ATL will most probably try to recoup its cap space based upon the morals clause or whatever it is in the CBA that prohibits conduct detrimental to the club. Forgot about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 I'm pretty sure teams ability to recoup bonus money was something they agreed to give up in the most recent bargaining session. I think you may be on the right track, but I also know that DEN did recover some of its money from Ashley Lelie in that whole fiasco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Let's not forget that there is precedence for banning a player from the NFL - Art Schlichter, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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