TheShiznit Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Vicks ADP is dropping faster than the stock market after 9/11. That is real fast yo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 That is real fast yo! Not too much in the 2 mocks I did today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShiznit Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Not too much in the 2 mocks I did today. Where you drafting against some guys named dumb and dumber......what gives...I have 24 rounds in my draft. After my kicker If he is still available in the 24th...I will take him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Where you drafting against some guys named dumb and dumber......what gives...I have 24 rounds in my draft. After my kicker If he is still available in the 24th...I will take him. Yeah pretty much but who do you think is contributing to the ADPs. Good for you. And once I give a Sega! I'll come back and read your post again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 however- it seems someone within Vicks circle is snitching on him and it is named in his inditment that there is an inside informant.... Vick's cousin Davon Boddie... the one living at the house while all of this was happening... was not indicted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 I probably shouldn't take moral character into account in FF and usually I don't but I would rather draft Donald Duck as a starting QB than that POS Vick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Vick's cousin Davon Boddie... the one living at the house while all of this was happening... was not indicted. He'll be charged seperately I bet and will take a much steeper punishment IMO. He's said that Vick had nothing to do with and it's his fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 He'll be charged seperately I bet and will take a much steeper punishment IMO. He's said that Vick had nothing to do with and it's his fault. He'll either be charged seperately, which means further indictments are forthcoming (not good for Vick) OR he's the one singing and will be throwing people under the bus so he doesn't go away for 10+ years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Have to figure in a high profile case with a trophy kill like Vick and all the political agenda surrounding this, they will make rolling over on someone else (and bigger) probably very attractive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Vick's cousin Davon Boddie... the one living at the house while all of this was happening... was not indicted. That tells me that they consider him nothing more than a toadie in this whole thing. He'll get his, but he's not being viewed as a principal in this mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 He'll be charged seperately I bet and will take a much steeper punishment IMO. He's said that Vick had nothing to do with and it's his fault. Ahem..... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Ahem..... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!! Vick has plenty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBoog Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 I'd go with about 5-6 and $250,000 (plus whatever he has to forfiet). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major-tom Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 I love how all the Falcons WRs got a bump up in the Huddle player rankings after the indictment. It'll be interesting to see what Jenkins can do with new coaches, scheme & QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Value is incredible right now, as I think he'll be the starter for this season. Would you be in my league? Please? No, really, I am serious. Maybe you can take Tank Johnson and Adam Jones (no longer worthy of a nickname) as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Vick's cousin Davon Boddie... the one living at the house while all of this was happening... was not indicted. The Feds cannot indict their star witness... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Maybe for the Mean Machine. Caretaker is already licking his chops! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgcoach Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Vick's cousin Davon Boddie... the one living at the house while all of this was happening... was not indicted. Could it be he had a story to tell and got a deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smt080 Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Like someone said earlier, I won't draft The Dog FIghter even without all the legal trouble. Vick is a HORRIBLE quarterback. It's about time everyone in football, ourselves included, realize that Vick sucks. He's not a leader, he's selfish, does not throw very well, has more interest in running, and for the most part a pretty stupid quarterback. I would rather take a risk and draft the Madden Cursed, Vince Young. If anything good can come of this; which is really pushing it; Mike Vick is no longer the Poster Boy for the NFL. He's just a shameless, coward who thought it would be cool to fight dog with his boys. Vick deserves to die in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soco Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 (edited) I would not let Vick wash or wax my car......or have him on my fantasy team Edited July 21, 2007 by soco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 I think most of you are missing Chief Dick's point..... His original question had nothing to do with Vick's guilt or character. From a fantasy football perspective, I would probably spend one of my last 2-3 picks on him IF the situation was right. For example, in a 12-team league, if I happened to be one of the last owners to draft a backup QB, and wasn't too excited about my options, I would possibly grab Vick as a 3rd QB. If my #1 were to get hurt, and #2 was very weak, and Vick ended up playing for part of the year, it could turn out to be a good value pick. I agree also that Vick has historically been overrated as an NFL QB. As a fantasy QB, however, the numbers don't lie. He has been a relatively productive (top 10-15) QB regularly. And, in certain matchups, he has produced RB-like rushing yards and TD's, so you're bound to get at least one of those "monster" games from him if he plays. All I am trying to say is that, IF he plays, I would rather have him as my 3rd option than to count on TD passes next year from guys like Losman, Quinn, and Russell. In deep leagues where rosters are 16 players or more, you're not going to find anything on the waiver wire at the QB position, so having a 3rd QB, even if he is a huge risk, is paramount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Would you be in my league? Please? No, really, I am serious. Maybe you can take Tank Johnson and Adam Jones (no longer worthy of a nickname) as well... He's talking about the Leavenworth Penal League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazysight Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 (edited) I think most of you are missing Chief Dick's point..... His original question had nothing to do with Vick's guilt or character. From a fantasy football perspective, I would probably spend one of my last 2-3 picks on him IF the situation was right. For example, in a 12-team league, if I happened to be one of the last owners to draft a backup QB, and wasn't too excited about my options, I would possibly grab Vick as a 3rd QB. If my #1 were to get hurt, and #2 was very weak, and Vick ended up playing for part of the year, it could turn out to be a good value pick. I agree also that Vick has historically been overrated as an NFL QB. As a fantasy QB, however, the numbers don't lie. He has been a relatively productive (top 10-15) QB regularly. And, in certain matchups, he has produced RB-like rushing yards and TD's, so you're bound to get at least one of those "monster" games from him if he plays. All I am trying to say is that, IF he plays, I would rather have him as my 3rd option than to count on TD passes next year from guys like Losman, Quinn, and Russell. In deep leagues where rosters are 16 players or more, you're not going to find anything on the waiver wire at the QB position, so having a 3rd QB, even if he is a huge risk, is paramount. From a purely fantasy football perspective: 1. He may not even play this year 2. If he does, you can expect a dramatic decrease in his fantasy numbers, as his lack of preparation for this season and his new offense plus his ongoing legal (and social/emotional) distractions will certainly have a negative impact on his play. I will expect to see some really horrible games from Vick this year if he does end up playing. Edited July 21, 2007 by Crazysight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr. Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 I agree with the above posters. Personal lifestyle aside, Vick's numbers don't lie. He's not even in the top half of the league, QB numbers-wise. I don't have them right here, or know them off the top of my head, but I don't think he's ever thrown for more than 20 TDs or so, and he's never hit the 2500 yd. mark passing , ever. The only thing that made him draftable (something I've never done) was his running ability. And, like the posters above stated, one week he'll run for 100 yds and two tds, the next he'll do nothing. It's like having one half of a run by committee backfield. It's a crapshoot every week whether or not you're going to get anything from Vick's running. You KNOW what you're going to get from him passing. between 100-150 yds, a td every now and then. Nothing more. Some people buy into the hyperbole. I never did. I've said it since he came into the league. Vick is the biggest fraud at QB since Cunningham. A great athlete? Yes. A great QB? Laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 I agree with the above posters. Personal lifestyle aside, Vick's numbers don't lie. He's not even in the top half of the league, QB numbers-wise. I don't have them right here, or know them off the top of my head, but I don't think he's ever thrown for more than 20 TDs or so, and he's never hit the 2500 yd. mark passing , ever. The only thing that made him draftable (something I've never done) was his running ability. And, like the posters above stated, one week he'll run for 100 yds and two tds, the next he'll do nothing. It's like having one half of a run by committee backfield. It's a crapshoot every week whether or not you're going to get anything from Vick's running. You KNOW what you're going to get from him passing. between 100-150 yds, a td every now and then. Nothing more. Some people buy into the hyperbole. I never did. I've said it since he came into the league. Vick is the biggest fraud at QB since Cunningham. A great athlete? Yes. A great QB? Laughable. It is a slap in the face to Cunningham to compare Vick to him.he had 5 seasons of over 20 TD's passing and twice he had over 30 TD's passing http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/CunnRa00.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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