Savage Beatings Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 I'm guessing that they will NOT cut him. But I've been way off on all of the Vick speculation so far. I think the Falcons will suspend him, and I think the NFL will suspend him on top of that. The trick will be whether Vick wants to cooperate by staying away from Training Camp. I'm guessing Vick would still want to participate in TC with the sick hope that he might get seriously injured (again) so that he can continue to collect his pay check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerz Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 (edited) Joey Harrington.....COME ON DOWN!!!! Edited July 23, 2007 by Chargerz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAUgrad Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 My guess is that he remains a Falcon and the league suspends him for 8 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 Yeah, monkeys "could possibly" fly out of my ass, but I seriously doubt it will ever actually happen. I can say for sure that monkeys will never fly out of my ass.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 They might be obligated to pay him a portion of his annual salary, but I dont think its the whole thing. I doubt they'd pay him a dime....conversely, they'd go after him for a large chunk of his signing bonus, based on him not living up top the ethical portions of his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 I doubt they'd pay him a dime....conversely, they'd go after him for a large chunk of his signing bonus, based on him not living up top the ethical portions of his contract. Uh, NO. That's the only way the NFLPA could get involved. When did everybody (except BB, apparently) become completely dumb about NFL contracts? Blank can cut Vick anytime he wants. Vick already got the "guaranteed money" from his last contract. Start going after the money you've already paid the man, and, yeah, the NFLPA can start screaming about due process. But you don't need a legal reason to cut a player. C'mon fellas -- use your noggins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 But you don't need a legal reason to cut a player. C'mon fellas -- use your noggins. Well that's not entirely true. They can cut him at any time for bad performance, but not for disciplinary reasons. As a team, the most that they can do in terms of disciplining his behavior is to impose a 4 game suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 Uh, NO. That's the only way the NFLPA could get involved. When did everybody (except BB, apparently) become completely dumb about NFL contracts? Blank can cut Vick anytime he wants. Vick already got the "guaranteed money" from his last contract. Start going after the money you've already paid the man, and, yeah, the NFLPA can start screaming about due process. But you don't need a legal reason to cut a player. C'mon fellas -- use your noggins. Uh, yeah, that's why I said I doubt they ever pay him another dime. And you gives a puss if the NFLPA starts screaming? that's their job, to protect player rights. But just because they will try to protect Vck's rights, it doesn't mean they will be successful. Neither you nor I know the exact language of Vick's contract. But I'd wager a buck that it states that if Vick is found guilty of a felony (or conduct unbecoming the team), the Falcons reserve the right to go after a pro-rated portion of his upfront signing bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 Well that's not entirely true. They can cut him at any time for bad performance, but not for disciplinary reasons. As a team, the most that they can do in terms of disciplining his behavior is to impose a 4 game suspension. They can cut him at any time and not give any reason at all for doing so. They only way they would violate the CBA is if they did cut him AND admitted that it was due to disciplinary reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 Uh, NO. That's the only way the NFLPA could get involved. When did everybody (except BB, apparently) become completely dumb about NFL contracts? Blank can cut Vick anytime he wants. Vick already got the "guaranteed money" from his last contract. Start going after the money you've already paid the man, and, yeah, the NFLPA can start screaming about due process. But you don't need a legal reason to cut a player. C'mon fellas -- use your noggins. Agreed. A team does not need to give a reason to cut a player. And I don't see the NFLPA saying anything at all if Ron Mexico gets cut. They have enough of a PR black eye from the recent healthcare-for-veterans issue. Upshaw & Co. would lose all credibility if they went on a tirade about the circumstances over which Vick were cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 Well that's not entirely true. They can cut him at any time for bad performance, but not for disciplinary reasons. As a team, the most that they can do in terms of disciplining his behavior is to impose a 4 game suspension. All they have to say is look at his completion percentage. How many starting QB's in the league have a completion percentage as low as his? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 VICK WILL NOT BE RELEASED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 The NFL could suspend him but NFL Live (Mort)said Blank resists paying him and if they did suspend it would go to arbitration. There is simple solution unless Vick voluntarily leaves. If he is paid the negative is Blank pays for his legal defense. I hope Goodell suspends him. Or the league finds a salary cap waiver if he is released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 VICK WILL NOT BE RELEASED You're right. He's going to prison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 You're right. He's going to prison. Maybe but he won't be released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattsass Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 VICK WILL NOT BE RELEASED I remember when I was 13 and thought I had the world all figured out. At this point, I have a new appreciation for my fathers patience during those times........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerz Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 I remember when I was 13 and thought I had the world all figured out. At this point, I have a new appreciation for my fathers patience during those times........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 I remember when I was 13 and thought I had the world all figured out. At this point, I have a new appreciation for my fathers patience during those times........... Yesterday my 11 year old step-daughter started crying... we were in the car going to play mini-golf... she started getting all bossy saying that we missed a turn and were going the wrong way... my wife pointed out to her that we in fact were NOT going the wrong way, and that we hadn't even told her where it was that we were going... so she started crying because, get this, "I don't like to be told that I'm wrong!" We couldn't help ourselves but to laugh at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 I remember when I was 13 and thought I had the world all figured out. At this point, I have a new appreciation for my fathers patience during those times........... It's hard to think that you have figured out anything. 16 BTW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 Yesterday my 11 year old step-daughter started crying... we were in the car going to play mini-golf... she started getting all bossy saying that we missed a turn and were going the wrong way... my wife pointed out to her that we in fact were NOT going the wrong way, and that we hadn't even told her where it was that we were going... so she started crying because, get this, "I don't like to be told that I'm wrong!" We couldn't help ourselves but to laugh at that. In 7 years you can set her up with Broncos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 In 7 years you can set her up with Broncos. "...especially when I'm right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsOfKnee Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 16 BTW. I now understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherDave Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 I now understand. Yes, he is to be taken with a grain of salt and a yard of paitence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 I now understand. Good one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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