Goopster24 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 ESPN feed is done. Another thing that is important is that Blank said he did not agree at all with the leave of absence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 They really steered away from the question about Vick's future as a Falcon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 I think it's likely this is a posturing move. As a business man, it is smart to say you would have come down hard on Vick but were overruled. Blank would look like the good guy. Had Blank said: "He's our guy until the evidence convicts him", he would have looked like he was siding with Vick, which is clearly not what the public/media/activists want to hear, and in turn, Blank and the Falcons would have been chastised. This way, he steps away from Vick. The only thing lost for Blank is Vick's trust, but clearly Blank does not feel that is worth nearly as much as the public image of the 2007-08 Falcons. Â I agree. But I imagine that Blank is also massively pissed about Vick betraying his trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 (edited) I agree with this and I think most of you will too: The ESPN guys have said whether he is innocent or guility, he is done as a Falcon. Edited July 24, 2007 by Goopster24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Arthur Blank said Vick's name is in the indictment 50 times. He counted personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 ESPN feed is done. Another thing that is important is that Blank said he did not agree at all with the leave of absence. Â Hmm...wonder how he meant that. Did not agree with it in that it should not have happened or he should have been suspended? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Hmm...wonder how he meant that. Did not agree with it in that it should not have happened or he should have been suspended? Â He said he wanted to suspend him for four games. They started the paperwork but Goodell said no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 And he said the leave of absence wasn't appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Couple of more interesting things the guys are saying on ESPN: Back near the draft, Goodell said that not knowing what is going on your property is not an excuse in his mind. It is Vick's responsibility. Vick led him to believe that it was just his friends/cousins. Even if that is the case, and Vick had nothing to do with it, Chris Mortensen sees this heading towards a year suspension, if not longer, for that sole reason. Â One of the charges in the indictment is "conspiracy crime" idea. There is no one on this forum that can tell me Mike Vick had no idea what was going on on his property. That is a crime, plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 (edited) They are saying that the reason Goodell did not allow the Falcons to suspend him is that if Vick got the four game suspension, he would have been allowed in training camp and file a grievance. Goodell did not want that at all; he wanted Vick out of public eye. Edited July 24, 2007 by Goopster24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 They are saying that the reason Goodell did not allow the Falcons to suspend him is that if Vick got the four game suspension, he would have been allowed in training camp and file a grievance. Goodell did not want that at all; he wanted Vick out of public eye. Â Smart people...they know all of the consequences of each action and their "waiting" to make some sort of a decision was just them being really smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Smart people...they know all of the consequences of each action and their "waiting" to make some sort of a decision was just them being really smart. Â Agreed, I applaud Goodell on this one. He is not stepping into this too fast and he is making sure he sets a good precedent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 And he said the leave of absence wasn't appropriate. Â I would like to know what Blank's reasoning is for being against the Leave of Absence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Agreed, I applaud Goodell on this one. He is not stepping into this too fast and he is making sure he sets a good precedent. Â This far, he is making all the right moves, Goop. He walked into a pretty tough situation, having to clean up someone's mess, and had handled it all with aplomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 I would like to know what Blank's reasoning is for being against the Leave of Absence. Â Possibly because it doesn't come down as hard on Vich as a suspension? Maybe because he has to pay Vick now and it revolts him to do so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 I would like to know what Blank's reasoning is for being against the Leave of Absence. Â I don't see how they could have given him it. Someone mentioned it in another thread, but it would set an awful precedent. Anyone who is in a sticky situation would be able to ask for that and expect to get paid at the same time. That is a complete joke, especially considering the fact that Vick or whoever would be in that situation PUT THEMSELEVES IN IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 (edited) I would like to know what Blank's reasoning is for being against the Leave of Absence. Â I'm sure that he'd probably prefer to suspend him without pay. Edited July 24, 2007 by Bill Swerski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 (edited) Broncosn05...seriously, the poor kid must be devastated... Was working tool. Some of us have jobs. Â They are saying that the reason Goodell did not allow the Falcons to suspend him is that if Vick got the four game suspension, he would have been allowed in training camp and file a grievance. Goodell did not want that at all; he wanted Vick out of public eye. Correct. Knew that yesterday. Vick can't challenge Goodell's decisions. Â edit- btw the most the Falcons could do is suspend him for 4 games for conduct detrimental to the team. Goodell plays as God. Edited July 24, 2007 by broncosn05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 I'm sure that he'd probably prefer to suspend him without pay. I'm not sure that would be legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Was working tool. Some of us have jobs. Â Calm your pits tough guy. I was being serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 I'm not sure that would be legal. Â It's very legal and happens all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Does look like he's gonna be suspended 4 games by ATL. Damn it. Tomorrow should be a big day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Does look like he's gonna be suspended 4 games by ATL. Damn it. Tomorrow should be a big day. Â Â Pray that that is the minimum he gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 (edited) Was working tool. Some of us have jobs.Correct. Knew that yesterday. Vick can't challenge Goodell's decisions. Â edit- btw the most the Falcons could do is suspend him for 4 games for conduct detrimental to the team. Goodell plays as God. Â What are you talking about? Vick can challenge Goodell's decisions all he wants. It's called the NFL Players Association. Pacman was going to appeal but he dropped it. Who knows if the NFLPA would even defend Vick though. Edited July 24, 2007 by Goopster24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 What are you talking about? Vick can challenge Goodell's decisions all he wants. It's called the NFL Players Association. Pacman was going to appeal but he dropped it. Who knows if the NFLPA would even defend Vick though. Goodell found that it was against the NFL Personal Conduct Policy. Goodell holds more cards than the Falcons do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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