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I'm going to have to side with the Church on this one.


+1. no way it gets to that point if the kid isn't a major disruption. the sad part is, the parents apparently aren't the type you can just go to and say look, this isn't working out, we have to start doing something else with him during church. nah, these people need a restraining order before they'll listen to anyone else. :wacko:

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Two of my closest friends have each had boys with Autism.


We did some research for my son and then gave our Pediatrician a different schedule for receiving all of the same vaccinations. They key is to ask them to split them up instead of giving them all together in one shot. You don't have to decline the vaccinations, just ask them politely to do them one at a time over a period of a few months or so. They will do it, even if reluctantly. Don't take any chances with your children.



I haven't read through the entire post yet, but I will (this is a very important topic to me). I just wanted to get my two cents in.


Very similar story in my world. Close friends with autistic girl, swear that the vaccinations were the cause. The dad is a dentist (and had training as a doctor) a was very reluctant to blame science as the cause...but he did a lot of research and has come to the same conclusion. They are not against vaccines, just against the combining of all of them at one time. All the shots together is just too much for some of these little bodies to take. Pediatricians go by what they are taught. They are told that it is fine, but history will show that just because they say it is okay, doesn't make it so. There is absolutely no harm in breaking up the the shots into individual visits. And don't let them doctors pressure you either. They will sometimes make you feel as though you are not the expert, but like some others have said, it is YOUR child not theirs...take the precautions.

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Also, Whooping Cough (Pertusis (sp?)) has become a problem again in Colorado.


Wanna know how it's spread?


By adults!


Adults who haven't had a booster shot in years. Apparently, you've got enough in you to protect you, BUT not enough to prevent you from being a carrier. So, our doc advised us to get updated the next time we see our own doctors.



just food for thought.


The healthcare company i work for is going over all employee medical records and requiring immunizations now for everybody. If you don't have it on record, they draw blood and can tell if you are protected or not. I ended up having to get a Mumps vaccination. At the same time, the nurse told me about the whooping cough. She asked when the last time I had a Tetanus shot was and I couldn't remember. So she suggested if I wanted I could get a DTP or whatever the combo is called shot which includes the Pertussis as a booster. Employer paid, so why not?

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Some people believe autism is caused by vaccines — particularly the measles-mumps-rubella vaccine (MMR), as well as vaccines containing thimerosal, a preservative that contains a very small amount of mercury. But extensive studies have shown no link between vaccines and autism.

Good info here. This subject has been looked at over and over and no link between vaccinations and autism has ever been proven.


And don't let them doctors pressure you either. They will sometimes make you feel as though you are not the expert, but like some others have said, it is YOUR child not theirs...take the precautions.

A doctor should never use pressure and intimidation to make a parent get their child vaccinated. If the studies showing no link aren't enough to persuade parents to get vaccinations for their children, then they won't get them. It's that simple.

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I, personally do not think that Vaccinations cause autism spectrum disorder. I think that if you already have a genetic marker for autism spectrum disorder, vaccinations may amply the symptoms - not cause it.


Here are some informative links....










http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/actearly/milestones_3months .html








http://www.cincinnatichildrens.org/health/info/mental/diagno se/autism.htm
















What to expect from an Evaluation http://www.fetaweb.com/help/eval.expect.meyer.htm


AND http://www.pedneuro.com/services.shtml (thanks Gabu)


Wondering if it could be autism? Here are links to information about some onlne tests.... The tests are not ment to diagnose but to act as a guide and to give you information to discuss with your child's Dr.




http://depts.washington.edu/dataproj/chat.html CHAT checklist




http://autism.about.com/cs/medicaltreatments/a/txchecklist.h tm








http://www-personal.umich.edu/%7Epdpatel/DSM%20files/ABC_che cklist.pdf






http://www.aspires-relationships.com/articles_dx_assessment. ...htm


http://www.autism-pdd.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59&P N=4


Adults with Aspergers - What about you?


http://www.iidc.indiana.edu/irca/generalinfo/standardtests.h tml




DSM IV CRITERIA FOR Childhood autism, Asperger's syndrome, Rett's disorder, Childhood disintegrative disorder, PDD NOS http://www.childbrain.com/pddq3.shtml


AFTER THE DIAGNOSIS TESTING http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/autismrec.html#top


The Do's and Don'ts after a diagnosis A print out for your family�s and friends (Thanks Karrie)


Looking for information and ideas? Here are some links to help you....




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Yellow Pages for Kids with Disibilities

Separate listings for each state and territory, Disability information groups, Evaluators, Tutors, Support groups, Advocacy groups, and State agencies...

Advice for Parents of Young Autistic Children

This paper is geared toward parents of newly diagnosed autistic children and parents of young autistic children who are not acquainted with many of the basic issues of autism...

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Interview with Mitzi Waltz: Autistic Spectrum Disorders. Author-advocate Waltz, now studying at the Autism Research Unit, answers questions about the increasing number of diagnoses, potential link with immunizations, autism and genetics, current treatment research, and the impact on families.


Books and Other Resources


* Autistic spectrum disorders

* Books by adults with ASDs

* Children's books

* Websites about ASDs

* General disability

* Health care and insurance

* Parenting and siblings

* Special education

* Childproofing

* Special-needs clothing

* Specific therapeutic interventions

* Transition planning and adult issues


Support and Advocacy


* National autism/ASD organizations

* Online support groups

* Related conditions

* General special needs

* Legal advocacy


PDD Connections WebRing

This is the home page for a WebRing (web sites linked one to another, as in a circle) designed to help people find useful information about pervasive developmental disorders. Topics include a definition of autism, pervasive development disorders, and related resources. This WebRing is helpful for anyone living with, or trying to understand a child with ASD.

# Diagnostic Tools


* The Autism Research Institute's Form E-2 Check List

* The Childhood Autism Rating Scale (CARS).


Research and Testing Facilities


Medication Reference

Describes the medications that may be prescribed for ASDs.


Supplement Reference

Great resource for nutritional supplements and herbal remedies pertinent to ASDs


Autistic Spectrum Disorders is a new book by Mitzi Waltz, a revised and updated edition of Pervasive Developmental Disorders


The Diagnostic Merry-Go-Round. The diagnosis of ASD is usually a frustrating process of diagnosis by elimination, after a range of specified conditions in the autistic spectrum and related conditions are ruled out.


Getting a Diagnosis: Starting with a Pediatrician. The journey to a diagnosis of ASD can begin in different ways, but for most it starts in a pediatrician's office.


Tips for Daily Family Life. There are a lot of things about raising a child with ASD that teachers, therapists, and doctors don't know much about. Hints from parents about daily life, including tips on haircuts, bathing, clothing, selecting furniture, and safety precautions.


Record Keeping. Some advice on what records to keep, and how.


Stresses on Families. This article shares some problems of families under stress and methods for coping. Problems addressed include withdrawal or overinvolvement by a parent, effect on siblings, isolation, finding the right therapist, separation and divorce, single parents, non-custodial parents, and adoption and foster care.


Parenting: Disciplining a Child with PDD. Whole families are affected by PDDs. This article focuses on discipline issues: how do you respond when "normal" parenting advice may not apply?


Direct and Indirect Financial Support for Families. Some programs are available that may provide you or your family with financial support. Even though the amounts may be small, they may allow you to stretch already strapped resources.


After an IEP is in Place: Educational Issues. Your job in helping your child become educated in school doesn't end once you have an educational plan in place. This article addresses issues such as: monitoring progress, extended school year services, dealing with behavioral dilemmas, suspension and expulsion, 504 plans, taking on the school system, private schools, homeschooling, and transition planning


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Wondering about the differance in ASD's? Here are links to help guide you....


Low / High Functioning Autism Please Read










http://www.answers.com/topic/pdd-not-otherwise-specified?hl= pdd




http://www.answers.com/topic/pervasive-developmental-disorde r?hl=pdd






http://www.brighttots.com/Childhood_Disintegrative_Disorder. html


http://www.udel.edu/bkirby/asperger/aspergerscaleAttwood.htm l




Common Medications Used To Treat Autism


Medications Information


http://pediatrics.about.com/od/autism/a/05_autism_rx.htm - different treatments & Meds


Risperdal and the Aggression of Autism








Want the facts or some general info? Here are links for that...


Autism In The News LINKS Galore!


http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/forum.asp?articlekey= 13881
















http://www.irsc.org:8080/irsc/irscmain.nsf/cat?readform& cat=Autistic+Spectrum+Disorders&type=Web+Pages








http://www.autism.org/adviceforparents.html (Thanks Jean)


http://www.hhrehab.org/childservices/autismservices/Default. htm




How Can A Parent Help?


Extraordinary Parenting - Autism


Cartoons shed light on autism


Pathways to Progress .....


Explaining A Diagnosis AND how to tell others about the diagnosis


Sibling Help -- http://www.autism.org/sibling/sibneeds.html


The Discovery Of "Aspie" Criteria


Savant Abilities. (Thanks Sarah)


Head Circumference / Autism


http://www.cheapceus.com/Autism_05.html (Thanks Jean)


Autism / Mercury / Metals / Chelation


http://www.askdrsears.com/faq/mc3.asp Can MMR be given separately?


http://www.autismmedia.org/media1.html where to find the MMR separate


Banning Mercury In Vaccines


support removal of thimerosal from shots


http://www.thehealthcrusader.com/pgs/excalibur/article_2005_ 03_17_1401.shtml Scroll 2/3 way down Thimerosal Is Still In Vaccines


And Just a reminder........ School Vaccines NOT Mandatory


Reduce Your Stress Level


Potty Training




http://autism.about.com/cs/adadsjournal/a/movingjournal.htm moving tips


Speech Delays and Communication




Changes in Routine Equals Changes in Behavior




Behavior modification controlling tantrum


Autism Service Dogs of America


Autism Business Cards 4 Public Awareness


Calming Activities




Find HARD TO FIND T shirts here... http://store.yahoo.com/stylinonline/




Safety Stickers - http://www.unlockingautism.org/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=safetys ticker


Home Door / Window Alarms


http://www.homesecuritystore.com/ezStore123/DTProductList.as p?p=2_1_1_1_0_0_118&engine=adwords!276&keyword=%28 do or+alarms%29&match_type =










Kid Alarms






http://shopping.yahoo.com/search;_ylc=X3oDMTFjdDZpbGpvBF9TAz k2MDc5MjYwBGsDY2hpbGQgbG9jYXRvcgRzZWMDa2IEc2xrA3RpdGxl?p=c hi ld+locator






911 GPS Child Watch


http://www.hardwares.globalsources.com/si/6007000636832/yste ch.co


Medical Alert






http://www.hahoriginals.com/catalog/defaul...Path=66_63& amp; amp; amp; amp; amp;osCsid=7b511578ed6fdb5be67184da2d0a4bed












http://www.bindependent.com/hompg/bi/bindep/store/aisles/gai ncontrol/medmanageprod/idjewelry.htm




http://www.americanmedical-id.com/home/?usersession=931a85b3 5c9beea0b42f659b165dcda6




School related


Protection and Advocacy


Special Ed rights for parents and Kids


http://www.bbbautism.com/vol_2_issue1_iep.htm - ***WONDERFUL LINKS!!!!


Writing IEP�s For Success






http://wrightslaw.com/info/esy.index.htm - Extended School Year


Building a Better Homework System


Autism Education Network


A Guide To Letter Writing


What Is An IEP?


MultiFactored Evaluations


Whose IDEA Is This?


10 common IEP mistakes


Specific Disability / Class accommodation


Instructional Methods / Accomodations


Programming / Teaching


Tips for Teachers


Back 2 School Tips 4 Special Needs Kids




iAbida Special Needs Education




Rapid Prompting Method severely autistic




http://www.autismtreatmentcenter.org/contents/about_son-rise /what_is_the_son-rise_program.php


Activities to Improve Learning through ..


Fun Educational Activities &More For Kids


Teaching / Learning Related


http://www.elliecards.com/ - elliecards� are a complete set of picture cards intended as an augmentative communication system for young children with special needs. Designed to be used for children with autism, speech disorders, and various learning disabilities, elliecards� are an invaluable learning tool for parents, therapists and educators.


Created by parents who had little success using other picture card systems on the market, this product uses photos that are realistic to everyday life, come laminated and completely assembled in an easy-to-use binder.


























http://www.wrightslaw.com/news/2002/jaynes.tarkan.nytimes.ht m


Speech Related


Signing (Thanks Anne)


Pecs Info.... (Thanks Gabu)










Echolalia - http://www.autisticsociety.org/modules.php?name=Encyclopedia &op=list_content&eid=36


Echolalia - http://www.answers.com/topic/echolalia


Echolalia - http://www.utdallas.edu/~rollins/A_I/echo.pdf


ADOS Facts - http://www.wpspublish.com/Inetpub4/w090205.htm


PRT - http://autismone.org/AutismOne2004/presentations/45%20Koegel %20Robert%20and%20Lynn%20Koegel%20-%20sent.doc


PRT - http://www.autismteachingtools.com/page/bbbbfg/bbbbqc


PRT - http://www.dbpeds.org/articles/detail.cfm?TextID=229


Testing Info - http://www.ausm.org/Information/General/testinfo.htm


Vocabulary Videos for Autistic Toddlers

The Vocabulary Builder video series has proven to be very effective for toddlers with language delays due to autism. Click here to read what parents have to say about these videos.

Sponsored by: http://www.babybumblebee.com


ABA Videos - This service incorporates the strategies of video modeling and Applied Behavior Analysis into an educational tool to be used by children, parents, educators and Paraprofessionals in the form of video. Video modeling provides children with the skills to create, improve and enhance receptive and expressive skills.






http://www.ncrdoctors.com/ncr_helps_conditions/ncr_articles_ teeth_grinding.html




This is questionable.... http://www.autism.org/rett.html




Sensory Integrative related feeding probs


Functional Feeding Issues in Autism Pages 1 2


g/f c/f diet Pages 1 2


The Gluten/Wheat Free Guide to Eating Out - A new book on the market called "The Gluten/Wheat Free Guide to Eating Out" with over 50 national/regional restaurants' gluten and wheat free menu items.




Sensory Integration - Must Read


How to know if its sensory / What to do


Sensory Defensiveness & Sensory Diet


Sensory Integration & Teaching Strategies






http://www.specialkidszone.com/Product_Level1.asp?CategoryID =38
























Blankets and Other


http://www.specialkidszone.com/Product_Level3.asp?ProductID= 1368






http://www.theraproducts.com/index/page-catalog/main-8161/su b-8289/








http://www.ikea.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay ?catalogId=10101&storeId=12&productId=16269&la ng Id=-1&parentCats=10107*10210 (Hanging Seat)


CATALOGS for Special Needs (and sites to order from)






















Misc resources listed by state -- http://www.autism-pdd.net/resources-by-state.html


State Specific Yellow Pages


Autism Resources In Canada


Respite Service Locator


Protection and Advocacy


National Resources for Special Needs


Spec Needs Advocate / Attorney Directory


Special Ed: Putting the Pieces Together


SSI (Social Security)


SSI re evaluation (Thanks Tabitha)


School Vaccines NOT Mandatory


Banning Mercury In Vaccines




1 suggestion... since these kids like predictibility and routine and resist change... DONT START SOMETHING YOU DONT WANT TO HAVE CONTINUE.


SO here are some suggestions to try


Some say its a chemical imbalance with the seritonin levels in their body... many swear by giving their child supplements like Melatonin PLEASE CHECK with your childs dr to find a safe amount if you choose this route


Melatonin for Sleep Disturbances in Children


For me part of the help was a small dosage of Clonidine.... even now at 9 1/2 without medication he can not fall asleep until well after 1 am!


** ALSO NOTE keeping a journal of when your child sleeps and is awake daily behaviors and so forth is a good idea.. sometimes it gives you better knowledge os what is going on when you can look back over the past several days or weeks and start seen a predictable pattern with your child.


Reward chart


Calming Activities like heavy loading or deep pressure massage


Many believe this is sensory related.. I will include some links here


How to know if its sensory / What to do *NOTE this also includes calming activities*


Sensory Integration - Must Read


Sensory Defensiveness & Sensory Diet


Sensory Integration & Teaching Strategies


Bed tents - they block out the outside stimuli providing a calming and quiet environment for the child to relax and go to sleep Many special needs catalogs sell them here are some links to various places


http://www.target.com/gp/browse.html/601-3573889-0737750?%5F encoding=UTF8&node=13419891


http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=twin+size+bed+tents& hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=ff&oi=froogler


*** Just type in a search for TWIN SIZE BED TENTS and something should come up***


WEIGHTED BLANKETS! This has been the final thing to really help my son and many other kids here! It isnt 100% but for my son its been 98% I never would have believed if someone had said he would sleep through the night from day 1 but he did!


http://www.specialkidszone.com/Product_Level3.asp?ProductID= 1368






http://www.theraproducts.com/index/page-catalog/main-8161/su b-8289/








Here is some general info about Sleep problems in ASD kids....






http://www.nas.org.uk/nas/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=367&a=3376 *good Info here






First I would say it may help to contact www.unlockingautism.org They have a Parent 2 Parent Network listed that will help connect you to a parent in your state to help you find resources. I know the VP of the organization lives in Georgia (Atlanta area I believe) They also have a national call center 866-366-3361... both are on the front page there are also links for so many things... heres the links pages as I know for some it is confusing how to get there... http://www.unlockingautism.org/news.asp?action=2 they have info on




General Links



Early Diagnosis / Intervention



Biological & Biomedical Treatments



Behavioral Treatments



Nutrition & Diet



National Organizations



Helpful Link Sites



Vaccine Information



Asperger's Syndrome



Books on Autism



Education and Law



Sensory / Auditory Issues



Speech and Language



Occupational/Physical Therapy



Home Schooling


FIND YOUR LOCAL Autism Society of America Chapter here


Other organizations are listed here.... In your Opinion (Thanks Rose)




CHANGES IN SSI http://www.clsphila.org/abc_for_advocates_files/training_mat erial.htm


Supplemental Security Income / Social Security Administration http://autism.about.com/od/ssissa/


DISABILITY BENEFITS http://www.bizdir.org/index.phtml?browse=/Home/Personal_Fina nce/Retirement/Social_Security/Disability_Benefits/


LISTING OF MEDICAID, MR/DD, DEEMING WAIVER, TEFRA & OTHER ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Villa/1029/medicaid.html


Disability, Advocacy, Knowing Our Rights http://headaches.about.com/od/disability/




Autism Resources




http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0399523863/ref=sib_dp_pt/104 -2414085-4493562#reader-link


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1891383132/ref%3Dpd%5 Fsxp%5Felt%5Fl1/104-2414085-4493562


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/185302967X/ref =pd_sim_b_6/104-2414085-4493562?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glanc e


http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0312326440/ref=sib_dp_pt/104 -2414085-4493562


http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0309072697/ref=sib_dp_pt/104 -2414085-4493562


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/104-241 4085-4493562

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Awesome post Cliaz. My best friend's little girl is autistic. I'm going to forward him these links in case he doesn't know about them.


If he has any questions, PM me and i'll give you my email address [this goes for anyone on the boards]. I deal with the director of Autism research for Kennedy Krieger and have many friends and connections both in the social worker arena and in the ARC program. There are MANY free resources that are fantastic for families who have children with ASD and FX.

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If he has any questions, PM me and i'll give you my email address [this goes for anyone on the boards]. I deal with the director of Autism research for Kennedy Krieger and have many friends and connections both in the social worker arena and in the ARC program. There are MANY free resources that are fantastic for families who have children with ASD and FX.







Nice job my friend.

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If he has any questions, PM me and i'll give you my email address [this goes for anyone on the boards]. I deal with the director of Autism research for Kennedy Krieger and have many friends and connections both in the social worker arena and in the ARC program. There are MANY free resources that are fantastic for families who have children with ASD and FX.


I'll do it and I appreciate it. It's such a scary disorder. She's the most precious 4 year old you'll ever see. And she's completely lost in her own world.

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:D Well done Cliaz! I'm never surprised about all the good intentions and decency that is shared at the Huddle when life-impacting concerns are brought up.


LordOpie, you responded to my post, and I feel as though I owe you greater insight into my comments. As I stated before, I have very close friends that I have watched raise their daughter with this terrible affliction. We are like a second family to their daughter and therefore I have tried to educate myself on the subject as well. I don't want my last comments to make you panic. All I wanted you to know is that there are a lot of studies that don't show a causl link between the vaccines and Autism, but there are others in the medical field that DO see a causal relationship. It's not that vaccines can directly cause Autism, but like some have said, it might be the trigger if the child is genetically predisposed to it. Because the symptoms start to reveal themselves at the same age that the kids are getting the shots, I can understand the causal diagnosis. I can therefore also see why it can be discredited as the cause. All I know is that some kids have an adverse effect when given so much at one time (i.e. fevers,etc), and that the overall harm of spreading out the vaccines seem to be less than the harm that can potentially be caused by taking the risk of the "all in one" shot.


I am all for getting the vaccines (as is the family I know with the autistic girl). Just give it some thought. You have the time to look into it (being how young she is) but I applaud your foresight into her well being. :D


I was raised to hold doctors and professionals with great esteem. I wonder sometimes if that has blinded me from looking deeper. Having seen and experienced the situation that can come with that blind trust has made me think twice before rushing into acceptance of all that a doctor tells me. Hell, that's why people look for second, third, and forth opinions.


On a side note, I'm trying not to sound like a conspiracy theorist here, but what dollar amount would you put on a class action lawsuit that was able to prove a large percentage of Autism was caused by the pharmaceutical companies and FDA? Thankfully they have a clean track record... :wacko:

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