Trade thoughts

[detlef]

Last week I made a trade not based on need, but rather to simply buy low and sell high. I moved Julius Jones for Payton Manning despite the fact that I already had McNabb. Just seemed like too good a deal to pass up and I had T Jones as my RB3 which, at the time, seemed good enough. Now, I'm not so sure about T Jones.

 

I don't have any regrets as Julius Jones has teased us before and then reverted back to his usual mediocre self, so I'm glad I got something for him while I could.

 

None the less, I'd like to upgrade either my WRs or RBs rather than carry two QB1s since we do start a flex

 

My team:

McNabb, Manning

Lynch, Barber, T Jones, R Williams, Pierre Thomas

A Johnson, Cal Johnson, R White, H Ward, R Meachem, Roy Williams (someone waived him last week and I couldn't resist)

O Daniels

Crosby

Balt D

 

 

This guy wants a QB.

 

Garrard, Palmer

Westbrook, Chris Johnson, Buckhalter, Hightower, Norwood, Fred Taylor

L Fitz, T Holt, Santana Moss, Reggie Brown, Randle El

 

First question: Manning or McNabb? My thought is to try and buy low on Garrard in a 6 player trade, so I'll still have a good back up regardless.

 

So, how does this sound? Either one of my QBs plus Hines Ward and Ricky Williams for Larry Fitz, Chris Johnson, and Garrard. Do you think that's trying to fleece the guy?

 

If I ditch the Ricky Will for Chris Johnson part, do you still like it for me? Maybe if I downgrade the WR I'm offering to, say, Meachem?

[cardman24]

how bout mcnabb for santana moss?

[detlef]

how bout mcnabb for santana moss?

I guess I think I can do better. Moss has put up nice numbers, but I don't see him as all that much better going forward than many of my other WRs. I don't lack for good WRs, I lack a stud.

 

As I wrote this, I realized that maybe the trade I should be try to sweeten up the original offer by replacing Ricky Will with another one of my solid WR2 options.

[Hugh 0ne]

I like your thinking here. Very smart. Your glaring weakness is WR1, while you have very nice RB and QB depth. I think I would move McNabb based on the "sell high" theory. I think he'll be good, but Manning doesn't have as much value based on his slow start and I think he'll come around. So, let's start there.

 

In your initial 6 player proposal, you'd be taking a significant QB downgrade, but getting a major RB upgrade and a major WR upgrade. I don't think McNabb is worth it, so I doubt he'll do the deal. If you can pull it off, go for it, but it's unlikely.

 

I like the McNabb and Ward for Fitz and Garrard deal. McNabb is disposable for you, so any upgrade you can get at RB (which you don't really need) or WR, you make the move. I think it's a fair trade, and a great trade for you. You'll end up with Manning, Lynch and Barber, C or A Johnson and Fitz, and plenty to chose from for the flex position. That's a solid team. Is this a 10 team league? If it's 12, that's one helluva team.

 

Oh, and picking up Roy Williams was a good move as well. Dude's got talent, and you never know what will happen.

[detlef]

I like your thinking here. Very smart. Your glaring weakness is WR1, while you have very nice RB and QB depth. I think I would move McNabb based on the "sell high" theory. I think he'll be good, but Manning doesn't have as much value based on his slow start and I think he'll come around. So, let's start there.

 

In your initial 6 player proposal, you'd be taking a significant QB downgrade, but getting a major RB upgrade and a major WR upgrade. I don't think McNabb is worth it, so I doubt he'll do the deal. If you can pull it off, go for it, but it's unlikely.

 

I like the McNabb and Ward for Fitz and Garrard deal. McNabb is disposable for you, so any upgrade you can get at RB (which you don't really need) or WR, you make the move. I think it's a fair trade, and a great trade for you. You'll end up with Manning, Lynch and Barber, C or A Johnson and Fitz, and plenty to chose from for the flex position. That's a solid team. Is this a 10 team league? If it's 12, that's one helluva team.

 

Oh, and picking up Roy Williams was a good move as well. Dude's got talent, and you never know what will happen.

Yes, it's 10. If I may say so, I think it's damned good even for 10 but it would be silly at 12.

 

And thanks for the reply. I'll try for the first deal, sweeten it with another WR rather than Ricky Williams if he balks and then back down to McNabb and Ward for Fitz and Garrard if he balks again.

[Hat Trick]

I like your thinking here. Very smart. Your glaring weakness is WR1, while you have very nice RB and QB depth. I think I would move McNabb based on the "sell high" theory. I think he'll be good, but Manning doesn't have as much value based on his slow start and I think he'll come around. So, let's start there.

 

In your initial 6 player proposal, you'd be taking a significant QB downgrade, but getting a major RB upgrade and a major WR upgrade. I don't think McNabb is worth it, so I doubt he'll do the deal. If you can pull it off, go for it, but it's unlikely.

 

I like the McNabb and Ward for Fitz and Garrard deal. McNabb is disposable for you, so any upgrade you can get at RB (which you don't really need) or WR, you make the move. I think it's a fair trade, and a great trade for you. You'll end up with Manning, Lynch and Barber, C or A Johnson and Fitz, and plenty to chose from for the flex position. That's a solid team. Is this a 10 team league? If it's 12, that's one helluva team.

 

Oh, and picking up Roy Williams was a good move as well. Dude's got talent, and you never know what will happen.

I'm with hugh here. I would be targeting getting rid of McNabb and you can point to him getting Curtis and Brown back to go along with D Jackson and the fact that McNabb lights it up no matter who's in there, now that he's got all of his top 3 WR's back what's not to like for the guy? I don't sell Manning, he is going to come around once that line gets healthy and I predict he's going to come back to his normal self. I'd go with what Hugh has suggested and if you can fall back on the McNabb and Ward for Fitz and Garrard deal then that's an okay option. Go with your own line of thinking, its solid.

[detlef]

Do you like the trade if he wants T Jones rather than Ricky Williams? In other words, McNabb, T Jones, H Ward for Garrard, Chris Johnson, Larry Fitz

[Hugh 0ne]

Do you like the trade if he wants T Jones rather than Ricky Williams? In other words, McNabb, T Jones, H Ward for Garrard, Chris Johnson, Larry Fitz

 

Absolutely.

 

McNabb > Garrard

Fitz > Ward

Johnson > Jones

 

I like Chris Johnson a lot, and the more touches he gets, the more he produces, and Jeff Fischer is a smart man. FatDale will be nothing more than a goalline/short yardage back within a few weeks imo, and the Jets coaching staff is realizing that they have a QB that can actualy throw the football and will probably be running less and less.

[breadtruck]

Absolutely.

 

McNabb > Garrard

Fitz > Ward

Johnson > Jones

 

I like Chris Johnson a lot, and the more touches he gets, the more he produces, and Jeff Fischer is a smart man. FatDale will be nothing more than a goalline/short yardage back within a few weeks imo, and the Jets coaching staff is realizing that they have a QB that can actualy throw the football and will probably be running less and less.

I absolutely agree with this analysis. besides Fitz becomes the clear #1 with Boldin out for a week or two. Jones will have a subpar year as Hugh has stated, and most importantly you are getting rid of someone your not going to play and is vulnerable to injuries. i think Manning will have a great rest of the year. Dallas Clark will be back which is just one more weapon for Manning to throw to.