Jrick35 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I personally wouldn't let him play for me if he offered to play for free but that's just me. How does everyone here feel about the idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 No. #1 I like dogs. #2 He sucks as an NFL QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piranha Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 No. Like Randell said, he sucks, and the fans would boo him out of the stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrick35 Posted November 25, 2008 Author Share Posted November 25, 2008 But all the reports are saying that he turned in a guilty plea on the state charges so he could get the lighter sentence and thereby hasten his return to the NFL. I just really can't imagine that the NFL wants him. Although I say that while knowing that Pacman Jines has just returned to the Cowboys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustOfBeenDrunk Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 No as a person No as a NFL QB Yes he was fun to watch when he first came into the league but the novelty wore off and he wasn't productive enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Rookie Me........ Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Personally I would not have him, but he will be signed because he will fill seats and some owner will take the chance on that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 No. #1 I like dogs. #2 He sucks as an NFL QB. #3 He could be Marino, Manning and Brady all rolled into one w/the running ability he has/had and I'd still rather chew glass. Sorry only human beings can play for my team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 NO Besides the off filed problems, when every other team started a punt returner as a qb, then I'd consider the same option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 But all the reports are saying that he turned in a guilty plea on the state charges so he could get the lighter sentence and thereby hasten his return to the NFL. I just really can't imagine that the NFL wants him. Although I say that while knowing that Pacman Jines has just returned to the Cowboys. First Goodell would address any suspension and then he'd have to reapply for reinstatement. Since he has an indefinite suspension they don't have to let him in. Since he admitted killing and laughing at dogs being killed protests from even regular people are not something the NFL will not want to tackle in my opinion. I don't see him ever playing again. Why would the NFL even want him? Would anyone trade Matt Ryan for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 I'd give him a look. He's paid his debt to society, and what Pacman Jones has done in my opinion is much worse but he's in the league... He's responsible for a human being paralyzed from the chest down, and has had several more incidents, but he's been reinstated again. As far as talent goes, I think you guys are a bit off base by saying he sucks. He's never going to put up 30 passing TD's and have a high QB rating, but he has shown that he can win games. I think he would absolutely excel in the spread offense that KC has been using lately. Wherever he goes would also see a massive uptick in rushing yards as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 First Goodell would address any suspension and then he'd have to reapply for reinstatement. Since he has an indefinite suspension they don't have to let him in. Since he admitted killing and laughing at dogs being killed protests from even regular people are not something the NFL will not want to tackle in my opinion. I don't see him ever playing again. Why would the NFL even want him? Would anyone trade Matt Ryan for him? 1. He let Pacman back in. 2. At his previous hearings, Vick had hundreds of PETA members protesting. At the last hearing there were 8. Most logical people will look at the time he has spent and realize that he has paid his debt to society. 3. Because he's talented and still a playmaker. Who said anything about trading Matt Ryan for him? A team that has issues at quarterback would be foolish to not give him a look. He won't be demanding a high salary, and Vick would be a hell of a backup imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) 1. He let Pacman back in. one word why I can see him NOT being allowed back in the NFL BETTING I believe that was part of his deal, that he had to admit to the betting aspect of the dog fighting Edited November 26, 2008 by keggerz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Well since I have always thought he was a horrible QB this answer is easy ... NO. I wouldn't have signed him out of college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffraff Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 As an owner I couldn't see bringing the negative PR to my team. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't pay millions to a convicted felon just out of jail. When investing that much coin in an individual, it would have to be someone I think would represent my company well. I don't think he's a game changing talent to overlook any of the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 I would sign him. he would make a fine WR/KR on my team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 I would sign him as a running back. The fans knew him as a quarterback, so I don't even think they would notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Let's ignore the fact that he sucks as a QB and wouldn't add a whole lot to most teams at that position. The NFL is a hugh business and the owners understand that very well. It's why there is a very watchful eye on things like performance enhancing substances and excessive (and stupid) celebrations, right down to such mundane things as wearing socks properly. Because the NFL is so mindful of its image, I would have a difficult time believing that the league would want any team to take Vick back on. The PR blizzard would be a nightmare and it would undoubtably alienate a significant number of fans at a time when the overall fan base will have a much more difficult time purchasing tickets. I also think we'll see Vick sue the NFL if he is not allowed to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 I would sign him as a running back. The fans knew him as a quarterback, so I don't even think they would notice. Hell, he could change his jersey number and go by Ron Mexico. You'd be set Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Hell, he could change his jersey number and go by Ron Mexico. You'd be set He would need to do a legal name change, such as with Ocho Cinco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 yes i would. the guys has some talent. would sign him to an escalating deal. plus the guys has paid for his crime. there are far worse people still playing in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBoog Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 yes i would. the guys has some talent. would sign him to an escalating deal. plus the guys has paid for his crime. there are far worse people still playing in the league. RIIIIIGHT1 Ya know. Sometimes "Sorry" just isn't enough. You "pay your debt to society" but it doesn't mean that society has to forget who you are and what you did. He is the dregs of humanity and I am sure he has learned well while in prison. I'm going for the "chewing glass option" sited above! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Let's ignore the fact that he sucks as a QB and wouldn't add a whole lot to most teams at that position. The NFL is a hugh business and the owners understand that very well. It's why there is a very watchful eye on things like performance enhancing substances and excessive (and stupid) celebrations, right down to such mundane things as wearing socks properly. Because the NFL is so mindful of its image, I would have a difficult time believing that the league would want any team to take Vick back on. The PR blizzard would be a nightmare and it would undoubtably alienate a significant number of fans at a time when the overall fan base will have a much more difficult time purchasing tickets. I also think we'll see Vick sue the NFL if he is not allowed to play. That's true and Goodell has been careful in his wording on any suspension. He is allowed to apply for reinstatement. After he gets out I figure he'll be suspended a year. That may take us to late 2010. If he is re instated and no team signs him I doubt there is much he can do. He would be allowed to play. If Al Davis still around would he sign him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrick35 Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share Posted November 26, 2008 I agree, obviously, that Vick should not get another chance to play in the NFL but then why was Pacman Jones re-instated? And for that matter why was Lawrence Taylor inducted into the HOF? It seems that some players get byes on their behavior while others get crucified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Depends. If I am a sucky team like the Lions, then yes. If I am the NYG, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delicious_bass Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Would I sign him? Shoot, if I had the money/power of an NFL owner, I'd hire a couple thugs to grab Vick's punk @ss when he gets out the joint and put him in a basement with some "trained" thugs/fighters with whom I would "bet" on whether they could break his bones with their bare hands. "Hey, Killa, I got 10 large that says you cant bust one of his arms within 2 minutes. Prove me wrong." Seriously, I wouldnt want anything to do with him. The League should ban him forever, too. Just like they should have done with Adam Jones. Until Goodell starts taking careers away from some of these scumbags, its never going to hit home with them that their behavior is not acceptable. When he reinstated Jones, he basically told all the lowlifes in the League to go ahead and do what they want because even if they get caught, they'll get their appeal and likely get multiple chances to come back and screw up again. When it comes to certain things, not everyone deserves a second chance and certainly not third or fourth chances. Off-field violence against other people or animals is one of those things IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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