mroban Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Much has been made of the fact that Knowshon fumbled on the goaline last week and the altercation with Brandon Marshall. I have read speculation that the fumble would lead to less playing time especially in the red zone. If anyone actually saw the game, they would have seen that: 1) it was probably a bad call and he looked like he was actually in the end zone; 2) more importantly, the ball was knocked out of his hand by his own lineman's knee as Knowshon was crossing the goaline. A total fluke. Anybody that actually saw the game would realize that this wasnt a fumble in the sense of Knowshon not protecting the ball or doing something reckless. But most of the "experts" like to report on things without actually watching the games. I highly doubt Knowshon will lose playing time based on the "fumble". im sure the gamefilm vindicated him completely. Shame that I ended up losing my game last week essentially because of this play. Im still playing Knowshon going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 It doesn't matter if it was someone's knee or a defenders fist, running backs are expected to have control of the ball at the goal line no matter what. I'm not saying that it means for sure he won't get any goal line duty but losing a second fumble that could have been a touchdown is about as bad as it gets in the world of the RB. In some ways it is even worse that all it took was a teammates knee to dislodge a ball that should have been clamped to his body. I watched that play when it happened and cringed when I saw he lost it again. And I thought he lost it before the goal line as well. Doesn't really matter how he lost it, it is breaking rule #1 - do not lose that ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig devilz Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 fwiw..... Maroney had that killer fumble against the colts at the GL 2weeks ago. Last week, against the jets, on the 1 or 2 yd line, the Patriots let Brady keep it on 2 consecutive plays (fail) before eventually handing off to Maroney, who waltzed in. nothing worse that a GL fumble for a RB.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mroban Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share Posted November 26, 2009 It doesn't matter if it was someone's knee or a defenders fist, running backs are expected to have control of the ball at the goal line no matter what. I'm not saying that it means for sure he won't get any goal line duty but losing a second fumble that could have been a touchdown is about as bad as it gets in the world of the RB. In some ways it is even worse that all it took was a teammates knee to dislodge a ball that should have been clamped to his body. I watched that play when it happened and cringed when I saw he lost it again. And I thought he lost it before the goal line as well. Doesn't really matter how he lost it, it is breaking rule #1 - do not lose that ball. I understand your point David, but in fairness to Knowshon, he was extending the ball to the goaline trying to score and there was apparently nothing in his path. The knee that popped up was unforeseen. You cant really argue that a RB shouldnt ever extend his arms to the goaline to score - although when a RB does so he better be sure that the path is clear. In any event, once a running back extend his arms to cross a goaline, the idea of having the ball clamped to his body pretty much goes out the window. Otherwise i agree with your point. But this was pretty flukey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 In some ways it is even worse that all it took was a teammates knee to dislodge a ball that should have been clamped to his body. So how do you stretch for the endzone with the ball clamped to your body? It was a borderline call at best, and to think he should have had the ball clamped to his chest isn't logical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Disagree with the Emperor here and agree with the M Robe On. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009112210/2...s@broncos/watch At the 2 minute mark is the fumble. He was not extending it when he lost it, he had it against his chest in his right hand and even had his left hand over the top of it. He was not stretching for the endzone. You still should not lose a fumble that way either but that is not what I was referring to or what happened on that play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboyz1 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Fluke or no fluke, he can't put the ball on the ground at the goalline period. Score or give hold on to the ball and allow for another play. Knee or no knee, fist to the nuts, teeth to the leg, elbow to the ribs, he has to protect the football. No excuses. Confidence is lost when the put the ball on the ground at this level. That's just the way it is especiallly if it has become a habit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cy_Hawk Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Fluky or not, the fact is Moreno has had ball security issues all year. If this was the first instance of fumbling, I'm sure most would be more forgiving, but it isn't. Dude simply puts the ball on the ground too much...no excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Heck, most fumbles are a "little flukey." As a coach, it made zero difference to me HOW a player lost the ball. Not taking care of the rock is not taking care of the rock. I doubt he'll lose much work over it either way, but I'm sure the coaching staff just take less measures because of the nature of the fumbles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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