Cunning Runt Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 (edited) Which of these two records is better? 13-10-1 13-9-2 I honestly don't know. We play doubleheaders weekly. ps - save the "decimal scoring" comments. My first year in the league - last second type thing. I'll get the decimal thing instituted for next year if I stay in it. Edited November 29, 2009 by Cunning Runt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Fan Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 Which of these two records is better? 13-10-1 13-9-2 I honestly don't know. We play doubleheaders weekly. 13-9-2, assuming the standard 2 points for a win, one for a tie and none for a loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 13-9-2 is better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 Since a tie is 1/2 win and 1/2 loss, the 13-9-2 record is equivalent to 14-10, which is 1/2 game better than the 13-10-1 record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunning Runt Posted November 29, 2009 Author Share Posted November 29, 2009 13-9-2, assuming the standard 2 points for a win, one for a tie and none for a loss. Myfantasyleague.com Is that how they score it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunning Runt Posted November 29, 2009 Author Share Posted November 29, 2009 Since a tie is 1/2 win and 1/2 loss, the 13-9-2 record is equivalent to 14-10, which is 1/2 game better than the 13-10-1 record. Cool - that's probably gonna end up worth $50 to me. I'm in all likelihood gonna be the one to finish 13-9-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Fan Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 Myfantasyleague.com Is that how they score it? Not sure, we use RTsports, but almost everyone does it that way. What's really weird is when you have a team that's 10-3-0 in second place behind a team that's 9-1-3, even though they have fewer wins. That sort of bothers me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 Not sure, we use RTsports, but almost everyone does it that way. What's really weird is when you have a team that's 10-3-0 in second place behind a team that's 9-1-3, even though they have fewer wins. That sort of bothers me. With a tie being 1/2 win and 1/2 loss, the 9-1-3 record is equivalent to 10-2-1, which is 1/2 game better than 10-3-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Fan Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 (edited) With a tie being 1/2 win and 1/2 loss, the 9-1-3 record is equivalent to 10-2-1, which is 1/2 game better than 10-3-0. I just disagree that two ties is the same as a win. A win is a win, and a tie is just not losing. IMO, the team with the most wins should be in 1st. Edited November 29, 2009 by STL Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 I just disagree that two ties is the same as a win. A win is a win, and a tie is just not losing. IMO, the team with the most wins should be in 1st. So 1-11 would be better than a team that tied all of it's games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Fan Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 (edited) So 1-11 would be better than a team that tied all of it's games? Sure, 'cause that would be real common. ETA - Of course that would mean eliminating all the other teams in the league, that would obviously have far more wins than one, but whatever. Edited November 30, 2009 by STL Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 I always go by the # losses when I make my decisions. More losses = worst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 I just disagree that two ties is the same as a win. A win is a win, and a tie is just not losing. IMO, the team with the most wins should be in 1st. I don't believe a team with more losses should be in first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Decimal scoring works great for the mathematically challenged. Ties only belong in hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunning Runt Posted November 30, 2009 Author Share Posted November 30, 2009 Decimal scoring works great for the mathematically challenged. Ties only belong in hockey. Couldn't resist, could ya? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Decimal scoring works great for the mathematically challenged. Ties only belong in hockey. You can still tie with decimal scoring. Granted, a little less likely, but it still happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 You can still tie with decimal scoring. Granted, a little less likely, but it still happens. Ten times less likely, I'd guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Fantasy Football ties make Baby Jesus cry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Ten times less likely, I'd guess. Well, if you score .05 or .04 for passing yards, would that make it even more less likely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Well, if you score .05 or .04 for passing yards, would that make it even more less likely? Yes. Twenty and twenty-five respectively. Big John will be along shortly to tell me my is out of place and should be a because a tie is probably way less likely than that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 (edited) Well if you were talking randomly generated numbers, I think Ursa is correct. However, probability in these cases is harder to judge because you aren't looking at randomly generated numbers. I'd say its essentially a standard normal distribution (the bell curve) for most fantasy scoring systems. So, the distribution will depend on the system, number of starters, etc. Scores between say 70 and 100 may account for 1 standard deviation from a mean of 85 in one system, but 80 to 120 with a mean of 100 in a different system. The first league is more likely to have ties than the second because scoring is packed tighter in a range of 30 (100-70) vs. 40 (120-80), but without knowing the exact shape of the curve, I don't think you can say conclusively how less likely decimal scoring will make ties. You also have the trouble that the right tail will be longer than the left, so its not an exactly normal distribution, but that's a whole other level I never learned. Edited November 30, 2009 by The Irish Doggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Decimal scoring works great for the mathematically challenged. Ties only belong in hockey. There are no longer ties in hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 (edited) Well if you were talking randomly generated numbers, I think Ursa is correct. However, probability in these cases is harder to judge because you aren't looking at randomly generated numbers. I'd say its essentially a standard normal distribution (the bell curve) for most fantasy scoring systems. So, the distribution will depend on the system, number of starters, etc. Scores between say 70 and 100 may account for 1 standard deviation from a mean of 85 in one system, but 80 to 120 with a mean of 100 in a different system. The first league is more likely to have ties than the second because scoring is packed tighter in a range of 30 (100-70) vs. 40 (120-80), but without knowing the exact shape of the curve, I don't think you can say conclusively how less likely decimal scoring will make ties. You also have the trouble that the right tail will be longer than the left, so its not an exactly normal distribution, but that's a whole other level I never learned. Yep. Why I can't correct Ursa. Edited November 30, 2009 by Big John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Well if you were talking randomly generated numbers, I think Ursa is correct. However, probability in these cases is harder to judge because you aren't looking at randomly generated numbers. I'd say its essentially a standard normal distribution (the bell curve) for most fantasy scoring systems. So, the distribution will depend on the system, number of starters, etc. Scores between say 70 and 100 may account for 1 standard deviation from a mean of 85 in one system, but 80 to 120 with a mean of 100 in a different system. The first league is more likely to have ties than the second because scoring is packed tighter in a range of 30 (100-70) vs. 40 (120-80), but without knowing the exact shape of the curve, I don't think you can say conclusively how less likely decimal scoring will make ties. You also have the trouble that the right tail will be longer than the left, so its not an exactly normal distribution, but that's a whole other level I never learned. Well described. My answer depends on scoring being linear but of course it isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 what does pi equal ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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