splotchman Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 (edited) I'm up by 0.5 pts (180.3-179.5) with the playoffs on the line and have the Steelers D going tonite. My opponent has nobody left. As we all know, defenses can yield negative pts, so I could lose this matchup. If I intentionally bench my defense, I take a 0 and would appear to win, but everybody knows the fantasy gods sometimes adjust scores by a couple of pts, so it could backfire and I could lose if my score gets adjusted down. Think out of competitiveness I have to start my D as it could come back to bite me. Has anybody ever benched a defense and taken a 0 when up by just a couple of pts? Edited November 30, 2009 by splotchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustOfBeenDrunk Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 in none of my leagues can a Def score negative points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splotchman Posted November 30, 2009 Author Share Posted November 30, 2009 in none of my leagues can a Def score negative points lucky you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 We had this question a few weeks back about benching Rothlisberger and the consensus was it's fine to bench a final player to preserve a win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustOfBeenDrunk Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 lucky you. i play in many different formats just never seen that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splotchman Posted November 30, 2009 Author Share Posted November 30, 2009 We had this question a few weeks back about benching Rothlisberger and the consensus was it's fine to bench a final player to preserve a win. But if you are up by just 0.5, my score could get adjusted by a pt or two and I could lose. Think I gotta play this D tonite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustOfBeenDrunk Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 We had this question a few weeks back about benching Rothlisberger and the consensus was it's fine to bench a final player to preserve a win. I also recall one about Vjax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliaz Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 I don't see an issue with it unless your league has a rule against it. To me, it's the same as a team sitting their star players after they have clinched their division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 But if you are up by just 0.5, my score could get adjusted by a pt or two and I could lose. Think I gotta play this D tonite. The usual adjustments are sacks, tackles and stuff, not offensive stats, at least not enough to affect you. Of course, you could get unlucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 I'm up by 0.5 pts (180.3-179.5) with the playoffs on the line and have the Steelers D going tonite. My opponent has nobody left. As we all know, defenses can yield negative pts, so I could lose this matchup. If I intentionally bench my defense, I take a 0 and would appear to win, but everybody knows the fantasy gods sometimes adjust scores by a couple of pts, so it could backfire and I could lose if my score gets adjusted down. Think out of competitiveness I have to start my D as it could come back to bite me. Has anybody ever benched a defense and taken a 0 when up by just a couple of pts? I never play a D/ST, never Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpholmes Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 I never play a D/ST, never +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splotchman Posted November 30, 2009 Author Share Posted November 30, 2009 (edited) The usual adjustments are sacks, tackles and stuff, not offensive stats, at least not enough to affect you. Of course, you could get unlucky. Correct, but sometimes my scoring doesn't count fumbles for offensive players and adds them the day after. I'm taking my chances and started my D tonight. Ravens would have to score over 35 pts for me to take a major negative hit which is -4 pts. If I benched my D and lost my game by a scoring adjustment, I'd shoot my PC. If only AD didn't score that last TD for my opponent. Crossing my fingers. Edited November 30, 2009 by splotchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddahj Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 defenses in some of my leagues can get negative points for allowing 30+ points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddy Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 When one of my leagues had potential negative points by a defense we gave a team negative 5 points if they failed to start a defense. Your league doesn't have that rule obviously. The reason we did it was we feel a full starting lineup should be entered. The only reason you have the option is because your team plays the late game. The other team didn't have the benefit of knowing if his defense should be started or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxfactor Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 I never play a D/ST, never Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 My l;eagues have rules that prevent tanking (cheating) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 I guess if there's nothing in the rules, you should be allowed to do it. But it doesn't change the fact that it's pretty bush league to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 In the AGS league.... you dont start a D, you GET the worst score of any D in the NFL for that week. If I were your commish, I'fd insert your D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 My l;eagues have rules that prevent tanking (cheating) This is a little harsh. He wouldnt be cheating if there is no rule against it. If not for the adjusting points angle possibly biting him in the ass he should do it. The only rational argument against it is puddys point about the late game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 This is a little harsh. He wouldnt be cheating if there is no rule against it. If not for the adjusting points angle possibly biting him in the ass he should do it. The only rational argument against it is puddys point about the late game. There is the right way to play, and the coward's way to play. Just because the rule set sucks is not a good excuse to be a coward. What does the man in the mirror say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 There is the right way to play, and the coward's way to play. Just because the rule set sucks is not a good excuse to be a coward. What does the man in the mirror say? Shamon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 There is the right way to play, and the coward's way to play. Just because the rule set sucks is not a good excuse to be a coward. What does the man in the mirror say? Seriously though. I see your point. I know in fantasy baseball it is done all the time though. You have ERA/WHIP locked up and you have a starting pitcher in the sunday night game that could only cost you categories and not benefit you at all. Ive seen that pitcher sat more often than not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weebo Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 If i don't start a D/ST my lineup is invalid, and therefore no points at all for my entire team.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Seriously though. I see your point. I know in fantasy baseball it is done all the time though. You have ERA/WHIP locked up and you have a starting pitcher in the sunday night game that could only cost you categories and not benefit you at all. Ive seen that pitcher sat more often than not Yep.... this isn;t being an accountant dealing with the IRS. The [spirit/i] of the rules, or of the law trumps playing loopholes in something like FF IMO. It's a competittion, and should be played on level ground, or it isn't compettion. In FF, I'm not Lombardi. Winning is JUST as imprtant as how you play the game. I wont play in leagues that allow this sort of tanking. Shamon? I dont even get it, but it made me laugh! I knew a girl named Sharon once.... ah.... well, nevermind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 IMO, it is a perfectly legitimate strategical decision to be considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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