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well I guess that is where we ultimately disagree. yes?

 

Yep, and no offense, but I hope everyone in my league disagrees with you, too.

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When I left earlier today this thread was only a one pager. Much to my surprise when I log back in it's on page six. How in the hell can this be?!?! I then realized that Blitz posted and it all made sense. Welcome back to the fray. You have not lost your touch :wacko:

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When I left earlier today this thread was only a one pager. Much to my surprise when I log back in it's on page six. How in the hell can this be?!?! I then realized that Blitz posted and it all made sense. Welcome back to the fray. You have not lost your touch :wacko:

 

Still stirrin' it up! :D

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Other than the fact that this Mucca character thinks it isn't right... nor reason for it... Just says it isn't true.. Do you acknowledge that this is correct?

 

Didn't bother to analyze the percentages because it doesn't matter.

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I gave you my reason, you just ignored it.

 

haha. you said because we play each other. that means nothing.. weather you like it or not... those are the odds... and your buddy STL fan not saying I am wrong should be a pretty good indicator...

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The people who read this entire worthless thread are surely going to be pissed... :wacko:

 

I change my vote. I think you should tank just to show your league what a stand-up guy you are... I'm sure they'll be okay when you tell them how there isn't a rule against it... Until next year when they're forced to adopt the JustDoIt Rule.

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haha. you said because we play each other. that means nothing.. weather you like it or not... those are the odds... and your buddy STL fan not saying I am wrong should be a pretty good indicator...

 

I told you I didn't even look at your percentages, because they don't matter. But if it makes you feel better, you're wrong.

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The people who read this entire worthless thread are surely going to be pissed... :D

 

I change my vote. I think you should tank just to show your league what a stand-up guy you are... I'm sure they'll be okay when you tell them how there isn't a rule against it... Until next year when they're forced to adopt the JustDoIt Rule.

 

 

My life goal :wacko:

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Tanking so that two people in the same family have a better chance of winning the money is collusion in my book.

And you assume son and dad are going to share the money because-? If I was in a lg w/my dad he wouldn't get a penny of my earnings. :wacko:

 

One more time: it all depends how the rules are stated. If it aint covered, have Tito get you a tissue.

 

PS to the OP: I wasn't saying that your situation is about money. It was a general comment.

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And you assume son and dad are going to share the money because-? If I was in a lg w/my dad he wouldn't get a penny of my earnings. :wacko:

 

One more time: it all depends how the rules are stated. If it aint covered, have Tito get you a tissue.

 

PS to the OP: I wasn't saying that your situation is about money. It was a general comment.

 

Yea, I actually don't think they think we would be splitting moneys.. and of coarse... If i win, my money...

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And by the way, you 2 playing in the semis would mean that only one of you will have a 50% chance to win it by the time of the finals. The other would have a 0% chance by that time, having lost in the semis. Conversely, the "tank" way would mean that you both have a 50/50 chance going into the finals, which also means that you can only knock each other out by winning it all... You don't see how people might think that is collusion?

 

And few people said it was in fact collusion, but when you tank and it appears that it could help both of your chances like that, then people are likely going to suspect collusion, regardless of your intentions.

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And you assume son and dad are going to share the money because-? If I was in a lg w/my dad he wouldn't get a penny of my earnings. :wacko:

 

One more time: it all depends how the rules are stated. If it aint covered, have Tito get you a tissue.

 

PS to the OP: I wasn't saying that your situation is about money. It was a general comment.

 

No, I'm saying that by tanking, they both go into different divisions, so they wont play each other till the championship.

Which gives them both a better chance to win.

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And by the way, you 2 playing in the semis would mean that only one of you will have a 50% chance to win it by the time of the finals. The other would have a 0% chance by that time, having lost in the semis. Conversely, the "tank" way would mean that you both have a 50/50 chance going into the finals, which also means that you can only knock each other out by winning it all... You don't see how people might think that is collusion?

 

And few people said it was in fact collusion, but when you tank and it appears that it could help both of your chances like that, then people are likely going to suspect collusion, regardless of your intentions.

 

 

Not even close.

 

If i tank, I would only have a 25% chance to make the championship. I would have the play-in game to win and than the semis to win..

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oh boy... please explain..

 

You implied that my silence on the numbers meant that I thought you were right, even when I told you I didn't even look at the numbers, which is still true. So in the sense that the numbers are meaningless, they are wrong. Happy?

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No, I'm saying that by tanking, they both go into different divisions, so they wont play each other till the championship.

Which gives them both a better chance to win.

 

That isn't right though. We won't play each other until the championship is true... But, however, we have a very little chance of getting to that point. (12.5 %)

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I do find it interesting that both you and Grits find nothing wrong with it, but both of you say you personally would never do it. Doesn't that mean you have a problem with it? Doesn't that mean your gut tells you it's wrong? If you don't think it's wrong, why would you not do it?

 

If you've read my posts I said that I wouldn't do it for a variety of reasons ... first - I don't want to lose any of my games and second know as sure as I get the seed I "want" in the playoffs it will back fire on me and I will lose in the first round wishing I had left well enough alone.

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You implied that my silence on the numbers meant that I thought you were right, even when I told you I didn't even look at the numbers, which is still true. So in the sense that the numbers are meaningless, they are wrong. Happy?

 

 

So the bottom line is, would me tanking increase the chance of either of us winning the league..

 

And saying it doesn't matter is just a lame cop out.

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So the bottom line is, would me tanking increase the chance of either of us winning the league..

 

And saying it doesn't matter is just a lame cop out.

 

No, I'm saying that tanking for any reason is wrong and unethical and it doesn't matter why you are doing it and trying to justify it with some lame numbers that have no bearing on the argument is a pathetic attempt to justify things enough to sleep at night.

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