gilthorp Posted March 20, 2010 Author Share Posted March 20, 2010 Rule looks like a no brainer pick for tomorrow, not for the first Saturday in May. I will try to beat Rule...need to study. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted March 20, 2010 Author Share Posted March 20, 2010 A ton of early speed in this one...I know a few of them will burn themselves up. Hard to keep Rule out, but I'm liking the look of First Dude to upset. Long shot Soaring Empire should be flying late off a hot pace and as others are backing up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 (edited) Gulfstream seems to be souped up like concrete on big days, speed's been holding there If you wanna make any money obviously you'll have to beat Rule and it looks like it could be done. He''ll be bet down to nothing it looks like b/c of his last two but he did'nt beat much IMO (Schoolyard does'nt look lke he wants 9 furlongs , CharleyBrown looks half decent but had some bad rides IMO). Ice Box has won at 9 and has won with the style that might do it today, sittin a length or two off. And he's won at Gulfstream. Working well and it's Zito.. I'm not in love with this race. Edited March 20, 2010 by HowboutthemCowboys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 (edited) Gulfstream seems to be souped up like concrete on big days, speed's been holding there Paco just brought a stretch runner in at 25-1 in the 4th Edited March 20, 2010 by HowboutthemCowboys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted March 20, 2010 Author Share Posted March 20, 2010 Bombers galore and Nicky Z has got a hoss for the Derby. Would need to see another prep out of him though to get my attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 Gulfstream seems to be souped up like concrete on big days, speed's been holding there If you wanna make any money obviously you'll have to beat Rule and it looks like it could be done. He''ll be bet down to nothing it looks like b/c of his last two but he did'nt beat much IMO (Schoolyard does'nt look lke he wants 9 furlongs , CharleyBrown looks half decent but had some bad rides IMO). Ice Box has won at 9 and has won with the style that might do it today, sittin a length or two off. And he's won at Gulfstream. Working well and it's Zito.. I'm not in love with this race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 Eskendereya beat the top 2 finishers in the Florida Derby by about 12 lengths in the Fountain of Youth. Hope somehow, someway he's not the favorite in the Wood.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted March 21, 2010 Author Share Posted March 21, 2010 Nice call on Icebox...solid cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 (edited) Nice call on Icebox...solid cap. Thx. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in awhile.. I don't consider myself a great handicapper but I'm better than my posted plays over the years here show. Usually when I give someone a pick it loses. Edited March 21, 2010 by HowboutthemCowboys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 Would need to see another prep out of him though to get my attention. Zito said he was uncertain whether he'll give Ice Box another prep or train him the six weeks into the Kentucky Derby. Â "I'd like to take him to Kentucky, see how he progresses and then go from there," said Zito. Â drf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted March 21, 2010 Author Share Posted March 21, 2010 Zito said he was uncertain whether he'll give Ice Box another prep or train him the six weeks into the Kentucky Derby. "I'd like to take him to Kentucky, see how he progresses and then go from there," said Zito.  drf  I can't bet on a winner with 6 weeks between...can't do it, won't do it. Maybe underneath, but not on top.  As for Ice Box...4th try, broke his maiden, then an allowance win against 4 others????....then buried in the FOY. Didn't see it.  Out of Pulpit, thought this one would be more of a colt that would mature for the Travers...if I were Zito, I'd run him in another prep, maybe even the Lexington, and get this one ready for the Preakness, not the Derby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 I can't bet on a winner with 6 weeks between...can't do it, won't do it. Maybe underneath, but not on top. As for Ice Box...4th try, broke his maiden, then an allowance win against 4 others????....then buried in the FOY. Didn't see it.  Out of Pulpit, thought this one would be more of a colt that would mature for the Travers...if I were Zito, I'd run him in another prep, maybe even the Lexington, and get this one ready for the Preakness, not the Derby. Ice Box, Pleasant Prince, and Rule will all run in the Derby without having another prep race, meaning they will have six weeks between races. Ice Box defeated Pleasant Prince by a nose Saturday, both coming from well off the pace, while it was another 1 1/4 lengths back to Rule, who held on despite racing on the lead. Ice Box and Pleasant Prince each earned a 99 Beyer Speed Figure.  Nick Zito, the trainer of Ice Box, said that his colt was "a little tired, but otherwise he looked really good'' Sunday morning. It was the third nine-furlong race of the winter for Ice Box, who won a first-level allowance race here in January before finishing fifth to Eskendereya in the Fountain of Youth.  "He's had three mile-and-an-eighth races in a row, I don't see the point of running anywhere,'' Zito said. "There's absolutely nothing to gain. Zero."  Zito said he would ship Ice Box straight to Churchill Downs approximately the first week of April.  todays DRF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted March 22, 2010 Author Share Posted March 22, 2010 Well then...there's my first TOSS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 I can't bet on a winner with 6 weeks between...can't do it, won't do it. Maybe underneath, but not on top. Â Normally, this is logic that I'd subscribe to too.....but not so sure right now, and will definitely consider it in a few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 Nice call on Icebox...solid cap. Â Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted March 27, 2010 Author Share Posted March 27, 2010 LA Derby looks like a nice little race tomorrow. Conventional wisdom says Zito has the hot hand, but I'm looking at the 9 Stay Put. This race very well may set up perfectly for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 Drosselmeyer looks like the one to beat. 3rd start back. His style should fit this race. Won at 1 and an 8th. Gonna be tough to beat IMO. Stay Put looks like he has a good chance. Beware The Program. Santa Anita to dirt has been paying off, I'm not in love with his style for this race today . If he can rate he could win. Â I like Dross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted March 27, 2010 Author Share Posted March 27, 2010 I'm with you on the potential danger The Program brings to the table today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Watched the race live and thought Dross got a bad trip and maybe a bad ride. Watched the replay twice and he just plain got beat. Was'nt a great trip but I don't think it got him beat. Kent tried to get him out maybe a quarter way into the stretch but there was nowhere to go. Woulda taken a hugh run to win up the rail there. He ran well IMO, just did'nt get it done today. Definitely on my radar this summer. F'n Pletcher's loaded for bear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAYER Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Watched the race live and thought Dross got a bad trip and maybe a bad ride. Watched the replay twice and he just plain got beat. Was'nt a great trip but I don't think it got him beat. Kent tried to get him out maybe a quarter way into the stretch but there was nowhere to go. Woulda taken a hugh run to win up the rail there. He ran well IMO, just did'nt get it done today. Definitely on my radar this summer.F'n Pletcher's loaded for bear. Pletcher won all three stake races at the FG yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Endorsement  I know he did'nt beat much ( other than the fave) but man... Conveyance was pretty well thought of before today and got easy splits and Endorsement beat him easily today. On dirt. One to watch ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 a useless statistic but was suprised to read this -- Â The combined record of Wood and SA Derby winners in the Derby since 1989 is 32: 1-4-3, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted April 2, 2010 Author Share Posted April 2, 2010 Need to look for those finishing strong behind the winners...like Monarchos behind Congaree in the wood. I think my Derby horse is in the Wood but won't win it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Need to look for those finishing strong behind the winners...like Monarchos behind Congaree in the wood. I think my Derby horse is in the Wood but won't win it. AA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted April 2, 2010 Author Share Posted April 2, 2010 Yes indeed. Hope he doesn't win, stays good value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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