wildcat2334 Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 This only solidifies my hate for basketball. Lebron is a dipchit. worst post I have seen in a while.......................... LBJ is a dipchit to go play with 2 other elite players that are close friends of his and live in South Beach over Cleveland? whatever I will be tuning into Heat games dat is fo sho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montster Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 This only solidifies my hate for basketball. Lebron is a dipchit. +1, except my hate is for the NBA, not all of basketball (i enjoy college hoops). i used to kind of like lebron. now i'm actually hoping he never gets a ring -- and it took a lot for me to even care that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montster Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 worst post I have seen in a while.......................... LBJ is a dipchit to go play with 2 other elite players that are close friends of his and live in South Beach over Cleveland? whatever I will be tuning into Heat games dat is fo sho no, he's a dipchit for taking the cliche of the self-absorbed, out-of-touch, holier-than-thou pro athlete to new heights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprofessor Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Hinrich was already traded away to the Wizards. Miller is a free agent and not being asked back. Murray, Law, Alexander as well as Devin Brown and Pargo are all free agents, and most likely could not be resigned at current salary levels after the Bulls bring in Boozer and add on Lebron;s salary. But, Rose, Noah, Boozer and Lebron has a nice ring to it. I just think that if Miami can get players to join up for below market rates to play wit hthose three, ala the Celtics in the last few years, then Miami may well have the edge roster wise. Also, I think Bosh is doing a straight sign with Miami, not a sign and trade. Beasley can then be shopped to other teams to free up additional space for the role players I mentioned above. Heck, I have no dog in this fight. I think I am happy about the Warriors likely getting David Lee in the sign and trade from the Knicks, but if James shocks us and goes to the Knicks, that deal is off. My bad ....... I do remember that Hinrich was dealt but I do think the Bulls still have a better roster than the Heat did prior to LJ's signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpholmes Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 My favorite Lebron tweets over the past week from comedic sports writer Eric Stangel's Twitter: "LeBron James To Miami: Right now Tim Couch is telling people "Yeah, Cleveland was pretty broken up when I left too."" "I'm keeping my 2 yr old up to watch LeBron James Special. I want her to see the exact moment our society hit rock bottom" "LeBron James to announce free agency decision on ESPN Special Thurs. That sound u hear is Brett Favre's head exploding" "NBA: Amare Stoudemire reaches agreement in principle w/ Knicks. Great, they're now 14 players from being a playoff team" "NY pulling out all the stops to get LeBron James to Knicks. Antonio Cromartie has vowed to name his next 8 kids "LeBron" "NBA: LeBron James to meet with LA Clippers. That's so cute how he's letting the Clippers feel like they're a real team" "BREAKING NBA NEWS: LeBron James has decided to go with Team Jacob..." If you're going to follow anyone on Twitter - follow this guy. He's a riot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 We are all Quitnesses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Heat just traded Michael Beasley to the Twolves.I think that means they are down to 4 players under contact. I'm available for cheap to be their 5th. All I gotta do is pass the ball right? nope, just stand there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Even with that, this is completely ridiculous and classless, IMO. If he doesnt want to re-sign in Cleveland, that's fine. Its his perogative and he's earned the right to choose. But to make a spectacle out of it the way he is is shameful. I have no dog in this fight (as I cant stand the NBA and have no ties to Cleveland) but this will be a hugh slap in the face of the fans who have supported him there over his career if he goes on tv tonight and says he's moving on. And even if he stays, he's now making it ALL about him. Either way...bad form, IMO. Oh, and can you imagine the outrage on the part of the players if the owners decided to have a primetime show and announce when they are going to cut/dump players, trade players, etc? "Tonight on ESPTMZN...watch and see if Team X decides they dont want Player X anymore and kick him to the curb!" I agree with this. And with this article: LeBron hardly a king for taking the easy way out with star-laden Heat This should end the comparisons to Jordan and Bryant and the other true basketball greats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 worst post I have seen in a while.......................... LBJ is a dipchit to go play with 2 other elite players that are close friends of his and live in South Beach over Cleveland? whatever I will be tuning into Heat games dat is fo sho Me and the Cat disagree on a lot, but I gotta agree here. LeBron was in Cleveland for 7 years and that joke of a franchise never surrounded him with the necessary talent to win championships. Anderson Varajao? Please. Mo Williams? Please. Antawn Jamison? Please. Those guys are nice role players, but not pieces to win championships. Everyone talks about them being the "best team in the NBA" last season No, they were the team that won the most games. They won the most games against a weak East, in a league where you only need to win half of your games to get into the playoffs. The best teams in the NBA, as we saw a couple weeks ago, were the Lakers and the Celtics, who were obviously good enough to make it into the playoffs, and then turn on the heat (no pun intended) when it counted. The Cavs obviously didn't have the firepower necessary to win when it mattered. LeBron knew this, all of you whining about LeBron jumping ship should know this. He joins forces with another top-3ish player in Wade, who will return to his true shooting guard role, and Bosh, who has oodles of talent and will be a force on the inside. LeBron won't score as much, but could average close to a triple double for the Heat. The supporting cast isn't great but with Beasley shipped off (he was a mess in the making), they can add some veterans and up-and-coming guys who will take far less to be on a team with two super-stars and one almost-super-star. Yeah, the ESPN special was lame, but LeBron is big-time into the Boys/Girls Club, and got the proceeds of advertising to go directly to them. Also, it wasn't his idea. Jim Grey (of NBC) pitched the idea to him a few weeks back. I absolutely hate the Yankees for buying talent... errr stockpiling great players... but this is different. The Yankees knowingly surpass the salary cap and just pay up the nose to have the best team on paper. The Heat will be under the cap. The Heat are now the premier team in the East, with the Celtics starting to collect social security, the Magic lacking killer instinct and the Bulls just good enough to make some noise but ultimately fizzle. Big-time kick in the nuts to the city of Cleveland, but you had to know it was coming. Kevin, loaf, you know I love ya guys, but come on. The Cavs weren't committed to winning CHAMPIONSHIPS and relied on the whole "come on LeBron, you're from Ohio!" schpiel, which wasn't gonna get it done. The guy obviously wants to win championships and this looks like the best way. Going to the Knicks would have been a joke, and we'd know he was just a media/money whoore. Going to Chicago would have made sense if Bosh was going with him, but that didn't happen. So Miami it is. Makes perfect sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 nope, just stand there I can be the token white guy for like a million a year. I'll just stand in the corner and pray the ball never accidentally bounces my way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 I can be the token King for like millions a year. At crunch time, I'll just stand in the corner and pray the ball never accidentally bounces my way. Welcome to the Huddle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby's Hubby Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 LeBron is no Joe Mauer ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby's Hubby Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 nope, just stand there Pat Riley, please call me, I have one mean spider dribble and a streaky running hook shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myhousekey Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 (edited) Heard something last night that even though he's making less money for the Heat he may actually make more over the course of the contract then the max deal in Cleveland due to no income tax in Florida.... Either way, I agree with Darin/wildcat on this one. They had a good 7 year run and it didn't happen. Time to move on. That's not to say my heart doesn't go out to the Cav fans (I have lots of family in the Akron/Cleveland area) but the writing was on the wall so last night shouldn't have been a huge shock. Edited July 9, 2010 by myhousekey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby's Hubby Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Heard something last night that even though he's making less money for the Heat he may actually make more over the course of the contract then the max deal in Cleveland due to no income tax in Florida.... Either way, I agree with Darin/wildcat on this one. They had a good 7 year run and it didn't happen. Time to move on. That's not to say my heart doesn't go out to the Cav fans (I have lots of family in the Akron/Cleveland area) but the writing was on the wall so last night shouldn't have been a huge shock. yeah, and bringing in Shaq was not the answer. to o bad they did not surround him with better talent. The Cavs front office slipped on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinL Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Me and the Cat disagree on a lot, but I gotta agree here. LeBron was in Cleveland for 7 years and that joke of a franchise never surrounded him with the necessary talent to win championships. Anderson Varajao? Please. Mo Williams? Please. Antawn Jamison? Please. Those guys are nice role players, but not pieces to win championships. Everyone talks about them being the "best team in the NBA" last season No, they were the team that won the most games. They won the most games against a weak East, in a league where you only need to win half of your games to get into the playoffs. The best teams in the NBA, as we saw a couple weeks ago, were the Lakers and the Celtics, who were obviously good enough to make it into the playoffs, and then turn on the heat (no pun intended) when it counted. The Cavs obviously didn't have the firepower necessary to win when it mattered. LeBron knew this, all of you whining about LeBron jumping ship should know this. I hope were too busy to watch the Cavs / Celtics series when LeBron quit on the team. Otherwise this is a pretty assanine statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Even though I live in Ohio,I'm not a Cavs fan.I don't even watch the NBA.I have no problem whatsoever with Lebron's decision to play in Miami. What I DO have a problem with is the classless way in which he did it.If you want to go,go.But to keep the decision to yourself,then have a special TV show to announce that you're leaving?If I were a Cleveland fan,I'd take it as Lebron flipping every fan and the city the finger.So much for the NBA in Cleveland.I'll bet season ticket renewals will take a hugh hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myhousekey Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 (edited) I agree the TV special was probably not necessary but wasn't it raising money for the Boys & Girls club via the commercial sales? It's my understanding that majority owner Dan Gilbert also has a bunch of money invested in the new casino right near the Q so I'm sure he's concerned about not only the revenue lost to Cavs games but also the subsequent revenue lost at the local casino.. Was talking to my cousin who lives in Cleveland last night. He said the economy up there is going to take a big hit. Even the Browns are struggling to sell tix right now. Edited July 9, 2010 by myhousekey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 IMO, it's not even close ..... Miami is going to probably have to give up Beasley and two journeyman to get Bosh in the sign and trade. That leaves Miami with Chalmers, Wade, Pittman(?), Lebron and Bosh and virtually no supporting cast. If he goes to Chicago they roll out a line-up of Derrick Rose, Kirk Hinrich, Joakin Noah, Carlos Boozer and Lebron James. Plus they have depth with Luol Deng, Flip Murray, Acie Law, Joe Alexander, Brad Miller, Taj Gibson, etc ----- I'll take that line-up ALL DAY over the Heats line-up. no doubt. I think people underestimate just how hellish a front line of noah, boozer and bronbron would have been on the rest of the league. oh and one of the best young point guards in the league. at that point you're a shooter or two away from kicking everyone's ass up and down the league, and you still have plenty of pieces to acquire one. instead he's going to a situation where he's basically second-fiddle to wade, and the only other guy on the team that can play is a skinny power forward who is good, but pretty overrated (I mean, how big of an achievment is it to pull down 20 and 10 for the toronto raptors?). wouldn't be at all surprised to see miami get eaten up in the playoffs by teams with more size and athleticism up front. I don't see how Rose/LeBron makes much sense really...Rose is a PG that you want the ball in his hands....LeBron if not bringing the ball up court gets it almost immediately so not sure how that works with Rose makes more sense than bron and wade, who both need the ball in their hands to create offense for themselves. at least rose is primarily creating it for others. I don't think there's a player in the league who doesn't benefit from playing with a good point guard. anyway, bill simmons made some great points before the announcement. I especially liked this bit: I think it's a cop-out. Any super-competitive person would rather beat Dwyane Wade than play with him. Don't you want to find the Ali to your Frazier and have that rival pull the greatness out of you? That's why I'm holding out hope that LeBron signs with New York or Chicago (or stays in Cleveland), because he'd be saying, "Fine. Kobe, Dwight and Melo all have their teams. Wade and Bosh have their team. The Celtics are still there. Durant's team is coming. I'm gonna go out and build MY team, and I'm kicking all their asses." That's what Jordan would have done. Hell, that's what Kobe would have done. In May, after the Cavs were ousted in the conference semifinals, I wrote that LeBron was facing one of the greatest sports decisions ever: "winning (Chicago), loyalty (Cleveland) or a chance at immortality (New York)." I never thought he would pick "HELP!" also... I can't wait to watch for the same reasons I couldn't turn away from O.J.'s Bronco chase or the Artest melee: it's Car Wreck Television. If LeBron picks anyone other than the Cavaliers, it will be the cruelest television moment since David Chase ended "The Sopranos" by making everyone think they lost power. Cleveland fans will never forgive LeBron, nor should they. He knows better than anyone what kind of sports anguish they have suffered over the years. Losing LeBron on a contrived one-hour show would be worse than Byner's fumble, Jose Mesa, the Game 5 meltdown against Boston, The Drive, The Shot and everything else. At least those stomach-punch moments weren't preordained, unless you believe God hates Cleveland (entirely possible, by the way). This stomach-punch moment? Calculated. By a local kid they loved, defended and revered. It would be unforgivable. Repeat: unforgivable. I don't have a dog in this race -- as a Celtics fan, I wanted to see him go anywhere but Chicago -- but LeBron doing this show after what happened in the 2010 playoffs actually turned me against him. No small feat. I was one of his biggest defenders. Not anymore. And here's where I really worry, because I don't think LeBron James has anyone in his life with enough juice to hurl his or her body in front of the concept of "I'm going to announce during a one-hour live show that I'm playing somewhere other than Cleveland." It's the best and worst thing about him -- he has remained fiercely loyal to his high school friends, but at the same time, he's surrounded by people his own age who don't stand up to him and don't know any better. Picking anyone other than Cleveland on this show would be the meanest thing any athlete has ever done to a city. But he might. Assuming he's not malicious, and that he's just a self-absorbed kid who apparently lost all perspective, that doesn't make him much different than most child stars who became famous before they could legally drink -- or, for that matter, Tiger Woods. That's just the way this stuff works. Too much, too fast, too soon. You don't lose your way all at once; just a little at a time. Then one day you look up and there's a TMZ photo spread with 15 of your mistresses, or you're agreeing to stab an entire city in the heart on a one-hour television show. that guy can write Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 I agree the TV special was probably not necessary but wasn't it raising money for the Boys & Girls club via the commercial sales? I think so,but so what?Just write a check out.But that doesn't get your face on TV does it? This smacks of his agent already trying to make sure Lebron is the center of news,and not really caring what his fans think,or feel.The charity part is there so Lebron won't look like a self centered jerk,imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Azazello,that last article is a good one.It pretty much sums up what I think,and makes the point much better than I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myhousekey Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 (edited) I think so,but so what?Just write a check out.But that doesn't get your face on TV does it? This smacks of his agent already trying to make sure Lebron is the center of news,and not really caring what his fans think,or feel.The charity part is there so Lebron won't look like a self centered jerk,imho. I guess so. But lets at least pass some of the blame on to Jim Gray who proposed the idea to Lebron in the first place during the NBA finals.. Edited July 9, 2010 by myhousekey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat2334 Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 that guy can write Simmons rocks- one of myfavorites and the best sports writer by a mile - his mailbags are fn hilarious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Agent Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 worst post I have seen in a while.......................... LBJ is a dipchit to go play with 2 other elite players that are close friends of his and live in South Beach over Cleveland? whatever My views on this have nothing to do with his decision switch teams. It's the way it was handled. Classless all the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Token white boy/gunner will be Mike Miller. All they need now is a veteran true point guard that wants to win titles and some big bodies to clog the middle. Farmar perhaps. Brad Miller maybe as well from rumors I have heard, bit that was prior to the signing of Miller. Creates a beast of a team to beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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