rajncajn Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 for some reason I believe it's illegal if the RB is outside the tackles. It's very possible that I'm full of honda Makes sense since the RB lowers his head going into the pile, but then again, we're talking about NFL rules here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 you guys are dumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Taz it's only noon, 9AM in CA, too early for drunk posting :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Makes sense since the RB lowers his head going into the pile, but then again, we're talking about NFL rules here. yes.."makes sense" and " NFL rules" are rarely in the same sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 its actually 11:35 as I write this ya dummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennykravitz2004 Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 I hope the kid's OK. Not just because of fantasy football either. 6th rounder FINALLY gets his shot, and then this happens. After living the GSOT years here and seeing Warner go through his peaks and valleys, these are the stories I live for from the game. Undrafted London Fletcher from John Carroll University playing forever. Players like this. I hope he has a 100%, safe, and speedy recovery. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Disagree have to keep it the same for everyone all the time. Hit to the head flag thrown period. I fought this long ago with everyone here and yes I will not let it die! Bad troll. Back under your bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 For some reason I thought they changed that rule either last year or the the year before to include all intentional helmet-to-helmet hits. I only remember because the Saints fans were going on about the hit PT took knocking him out in the playoffs a few years back against San Fran and how it would be an illegal hit now. for some reason I believe it's illegal if the RB is outside the tackles. It's very possible that I'm full of honda Yeah, between the tackles, limited to something like the first 5 yards, is "legal". After that it's supposed to be a flag but I don't think we've seen one yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Yeah, between the tackles, limited to something like the first 5 yards, is "legal". After that it's supposed to be a flag but I don't think we've seen one yet. It's a penalty on the RB if he lowers his head and uses the crown of his helmet but only on runs between the tackles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorcher Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 On his 90 yard TD was it because of his skill, or did the defense miss a play. What I am trying to ask is which was the bigger factor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Good luck rolling with him. He has the hardest 3 game schedule of any RB. Just in times for the playoffs!!! I'm praying my opponents jump on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorcher Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Good luck rolling with him. He has the hardest 3 game schedule of any RB. Just in times for the playoffs!!! I'm praying my opponents jump on him. I like reading this since I will be facing him next week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud29 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 On his 90 yard TD was it because of his skill, or did the defense miss a play. What I am trying to ask is which was the bigger factor? Murray made a nice cut, but there was basically no secondary help to speak of. The one CB was on the other side of the field, and there was only one safety who wasn't in a great position to help either. Once Murray had gone 10 yards, it was pretty clear he was going 90. Not to detract from his performance, as he looked quite a bit better than the other Oakland RBs, but he had several things working in his favor on that play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorcher Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Murray made a nice cut, but there was basically no secondary help to speak of. The one CB was on the other side of the field, and there was only one safety who wasn't in a great position to help either. Once Murray had gone 10 yards, it was pretty clear he was going 90. Not to detract from his performance, as he looked quite a bit better than the other Oakland RBs, but he had several things working in his favor on that play. I wouldn't take anything away either. In situations like this I usually think of the player as one who has the skill,vision and speed to take advantage of those situations; which to me is a plus in a player. When Cleveland played Tampa on one play I saw West go through an opening that looked like the Holland tunnel as if he were on a stroll. He was tackled right away. A little burst and some speed and he would have been gone for a TD, so for me those big yardage plays in a game fall into the skill set of the player who makes them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sausagekingchi Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Any update on his concussion today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Any update on his concussion today? Still has not cleared protocol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Still has not cleared protocol. And wouldn't expect him to this early if what I recall reading about what the protocol is. I think we'll have a better estimation of his availability come this afternoon or tomorrow afternoon at latest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennykravitz2004 Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 I'm curious where the news is coming from about Sparano saying LM isn't going to be the workhorse back for the rest of the season. Nothing I've read seems to infer that, just that they want to get him more touches. Derek Carr seems on board for LM being the horse, for whatever that's worth. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2014/12/03/raiders-latavius-murray-cleared-to-play/19865675/ http://www.mercurynews.com/raiders/ci_27061267/raiders-latavius-murray-track-return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I'm starting him this weekend. Have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I'm curious where the news is coming from about Sparano saying LM isn't going to be the workhorse back for the rest of the season. Nothing I've read seems to infer that, just that they want to get him more touches. Derek Carr seems on board for LM being the horse, for whatever that's worth. http://www.usatoday....-play/19865675/ http://www.mercuryne...ay-track-return Where did you see the info that Sparano doesn't want him to be the workhorse? I missed it but admit I'm paying less attention since my season is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rileyrott Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Per Roto: Raiders coach Tony Sparano told Sirius XM Radio on Wednesday that Latavius Murray will not be utilized as a workhorse down the stretch. The Raiders are synonymous with losing, and virtually all of their actions continue to reinforce that indisputable notion. We suppose Maurice Jones-Drew might "need more touches," as Sparano hilariously stated earlier in the year. It sounds like Murray will be part of a committee attack with washed-up Jones-Drew, dunzo Darren McFadden, and always-underutilized Marcel Reece. Latavius will be a low-floor, high-ceiling flex play versus San Francisco. Source: Alex Marvez on Twitter Dec 3 - 8:12 PM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennykravitz2004 Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 Where did you see the info that Sparano doesn't want him to be the workhorse? I missed it but admit I'm paying less attention since my season is over. Also from the Huddle homepage with the player updates that get posted, or are a feed, in the top right of the page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Loaf - sometimes it is better to not have choices. I don't have the guts to start him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Also from the Huddle homepage with the player updates that get posted, or are a feed, in the top right of the page. Which I believe I've been told is from rotoworld (the news part) and huddle staff do the "huddle up" part. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Gosh darn. Don't want to turn this into a WDIS thing but I'm stuck between a slug (T-Rich) and a huge question mark (Murray). It's either get 6-9 points from T-Rich.... 0-15 out of Murray... or gamble with Grice, who could be somewhere in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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