yungballa Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 This guy is freakin insane. Number 1 wideout since week 7...AND HES A ROOKIE. Do yall think he goes in the first round? If not, where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I would have to think yes, first round. I mean how could you not? He is playing lights out and is unstoppable. Maybe later first round but who is playing better than he is now? We'll have to see what the Cruz effect is though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) I'm actually more worried about Eli's inconsistencies than any effect Cruz return will have. Edited December 22, 2014 by CaptainHook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) He's the new Calvin just shorter and lighter but as dominant or better. Â Eta: his average points per game this season (10 games), which are lessened by his low scores the first two weeks he played, are over 1 pt more than Calvin Johnson's in his best year, 23.52 - 22.45 Edited December 22, 2014 by irish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Early-mid 2nd. You can't put him head of Julio, Dez, Demaryus, Brown, Green, or Calvin maybe. We've seen too many guys have a great year and once teams have film on them and a year to prepare they adjust. We don't know if he'll do the work either. It's just too risky. It's not like taking one of those guys is going to lose you your league and they are just much safer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Early-mid 2nd. You can't put him head of Julio, Dez, Demaryus, Brown, Green, or Calvin maybe. We've seen too many guys have a great year and once teams have film on them and a year to prepare they adjust. We don't know if he'll do the work either. It's just too risky. It's not like taking one of those guys is going to lose you your league and they are just much safer. Â Â I agree. As much as I love this guy and he was money when it counted, I have him behind those listed there. He MAY be better, but awful risky in year 1 or 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stethant Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Early-mid 2nd. You can't put him head of Julio, Dez, Demaryus, Brown, Green, or Calvin maybe. We've seen too many guys have a great year and once teams have film on them and a year to prepare they adjust. We don't know if he'll do the work either. It's just too risky. It's not like taking one of those guys is going to lose you your league and they are just much safer. Â I'd put him ahead of Green and Calvin no problem - based on what we know right now. The others I agree with you. Lotta time between here and next FFL draft though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I'd put him ahead of Green and Calvin no problem - based on what we know right now. The others I agree with you. Lotta time between here and next FFL draft though. Â Â Right now, today, sure. Not next August. Too many ways he can go sideways, and Green and Calvin only have health in their way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) IF Megatron is on the board and 4 or 5 receivers are already taken it won't take me long to snap him up. I figure many others feels the same way. He (and AJ Green) is a superstar...off year this year only makes him "more interesting" going into next year. If he is WR-6, then he could fall to Low 2 (high 3 in 10 team leagues) which is a monster get. Edited December 22, 2014 by kwolf68 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripleshot Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I think he actually helps Cruz more than Cruz takes away from him. Cruz is a great slot receiver but not a number one. Beckham's a legit number one. He's probably in the Tier One group of receivers but toward the back, but still a tier one in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishPride Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I got him as an undrafted FA in a keeper league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin_Akie Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 The only bad week he had was in week 6 vs Philly. Since then he's scored somewhere between solid and amazing so it stands to reason he'll be considered 1st round or very early 2nd round alongside the likes of D.Thomas and A.Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 The guy who owned him this year is going to have a very hard time to pass him by for anyone. Over the last eight weeks in a PPR league, he scored 220.6 points. Next best is Antonio Brown with 165.8. Megatron is #9 with 138 and Demaryius Thomas is #8 with 141.2. Â Over the last 5 weeks, he had 163 points. #2 Julio Jones only had 113. Â Over the last 3 weeks, he had 110 . #2 Jordy Nelson had 71.4 Â Only takes one guy to grab him. He has been phenomenal. But Josh Gordon was last year too... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wpob Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) He will go in the late first round, most likely at the swing when someone decides to double down on WR at then end of the first and beginning of the second. Â I am a Giants fan and am psyched he is on our team. However, I just don't see him keeping this production level up all season next year. I hope I am wrong but for now I am enjoying the ride. Â And unless he falls to the late second round, I will not take him as I make it a point NOT to draft Giants unless the value is too good to pass up. Edited December 22, 2014 by Wpob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I got him as an undrafted FA in a keeper league? Â Â In other words you weren't smart enough to draft him either? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennykravitz2004 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 The guy who owned him this year is going to have a very hard time to pass him by for anyone. Over the last eight weeks in a PPR league, he scored 220.6 points. Next best is Antonio Brown with 165.8. Megatron is #9 with 138 and Demaryius Thomas is #8 with 141.2. Â Over the last 5 weeks, he had 163 points. #2 Julio Jones only had 113. Â Over the last 3 weeks, he had 110 . #2 Jordy Nelson had 71.4 Â Only takes one guy to grab him. He has been phenomenal. But Josh Gordon was last year too... Â Â If Odell goes out and smokes a bunch of Josh Gordon like Gordon did, get suspended for most of the season, then comes back to a crummy QB situation... THEN I could see the comparison. Â But if the point is that a player can be hot one year and suck the next, then that's true for any player, no? Â 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 If Odell goes out and smokes a bunch of Josh Gordon like Gordon did, get suspended for most of the season, then comes back to a crummy QB situation... THEN I could see the comparison. Â But if the point is that a player can be hot one year and suck the next, then that's true for any player, no? Â Â Â Julio, Demaryus, Dez, etc would like a word with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungballa Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 Â Â Julio, Demaryus, Dez, etc would like a word with you. Â i dont think you understand what he's saying. He explaining that he shouldnt be compared with gordon, and that players like this (dez, etc) arent going to randomly fall apart. So neither should beckham 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin_Akie Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 In other words you weren't smart enough to draft him either? Â Â Was drafted and then dropped in my re-draft league. Â Same thing happened with Mike Evans and Martavis Bryant to less devastating effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chloroform Rx Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I will be keeping him in both my keeper leagues in which we keep 2 guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 i dont think you understand what he's saying. He explaining that he shouldnt be compared with gordon, and that players like this (dez, etc) arent going to randomly fall apart. So neither should beckham   This is EXACTLY my point. Putting Beckham in the Dez etc category is absurd. Those guys have a proven history of not busting. They succeed through QB issues, through nagging injuries, through coaching problems. Beckham has zero track record here. Look I have the guy in my local, and barring a disaster tonight he will single-handedly carry me to a championship, so I know all about what he can do. He just has zero history, just like Gordon. Whether it's toking a smoke, domestic issues, sexual deviancy, an X-box dependancy, getting lazy on the success, not working like you have a draft position and contract on the line, whatever, there are 1000 reasons why Beckham can regress. Dez etc have proven they won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennykravitz2004 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) This is EXACTLY my point. Putting Beckham in the Dez etc category is absurd. Those guys have a proven history of not busting. They succeed through QB issues, through nagging injuries, through coaching problems. Beckham has zero track record here. Look I have the guy in my local, and barring a disaster tonight he will single-handedly carry me to a championship, so I know all about what he can do. He just has zero history, just like Gordon. Whether it's toking a smoke, domestic issues, sexual deviancy, an X-box dependancy, getting lazy on the success, not working like you have a draft position and contract on the line, whatever, there are 1000 reasons why Beckham can regress. Dez etc have proven they won't. Â Â Personally, I wasn't really trying to put him in any category, as much as I thought the comparison to Gordon didn't quite fit for the reasons I stated. I get DMD's point (really, I do), and I get your point as well. We knew Gordon was a knucklehead even before he was drafted - why was he taken supplemental? Odell doesn't seem to have that, other than being a little "different" during his warm-ups. Â I just think it's too early to call either way. Heck, you might recall how much I was on Chris Givens' bandwagon his second year, so I'm familiar with both sides to this. Â And out of those 1000's of reasons he could fail, which of them has Beckham shown so far which also compare to what Gordon had done up to that point in his career? (I do mean this as a serious question.) Edited December 22, 2014 by lennykravitz2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Odell doesn't seem to have that, other than being a little "different" during his warm-ups. I just think it's too early to call either way.   Agree for the most part, again I love love love Beckham, but when choosing between one of the currently-elite WR and the maybe-next-elite WR, I'm taking the proven history every single time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTomWeTrust Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Â Brandin Cooks is higher on my list than Odell Beckam for next year.. so just stop it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 If you don't want to draft him, then someone else will own him in all your leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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