JoJoTheWebToedBoy Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 First off, 99.99% of the time it's PI. and that is coming from a Cowboy fan. As for the rest of the game. way too many flags. Some good and some bad. But in the end either team had the chance to win it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Sorry, late to this thread . . . but are Cowboys fans actually claiming that the refs were right picking up that flag? Â Â can u provide a link to that post or u just running your mouth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripleshot Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 PI or no PI call, the Cowboys showed grit coming back in this game. They may have gotten a break with that non-call, but they did what they had to do afterward to win. I'm not sure the Cowboys of recent years past would have hung in and grabbed a win. They've got some cajones and mental toughness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 PI or no PI call, the Cowboys showed grit coming back in this game. They may have gotten a break with that non-call, but they did what they had to do afterward to win. I'm not sure the Cowboys of recent years past would have hung in and grabbed a win. They've got some cajones and mental toughness. Â maybe Det could a stopped Dallas on 4th down (twice) on touchdown drives..or went for it on 4th n short instead of punting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud29 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) can u provide a link to that post or u just running your mouth? Â Â Here: Â Not defending anything, just stating pure fact. That play wasn't PI and the fact is there were several calls missed on both sides, but isn't that the case in many games? Detroit played a better first half, Dallas played a better second half and pulled out a close victory that could've gone either way. Â Â Edit to add this from another thread: Â Hardly, the refs missed two calls on the lions earlier in the game and the flag picked up wasn't even PI. Â Edited January 5, 2015 by bud29 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 stop making sense. Ya gota hate if u post in this thread   What did you mean by this then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Â Â Here: Â Â Â Edit to add this from another thread: Â men..twice he said he didn't think it was PI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 C'mon...it was a terrible call on the PI but the Lions didn't lose because of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Â Â What did you mean by this then? Â did you read the post that that one quoted? IMO he was making a sensible post in a thread that at the time included people that haven't posted here in a long time hating on Dallas. Its called sarcasm..its hard to convey on a board I guess. Its the way of the huddle though ..I should know that by now. Oh well..ya'll enjoy your evening. I know I will. On to Green Bay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 The governor of New Jersey is a Dallas fan? Â Â A front-running carpet bagging pile of goo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willswear3 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I wholehearted wanted Dallas to win(I think Carolina matches up better with Seattle than Green Bay) but if anyone doesn't think that was PI they are insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud29 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) No PI here.... https://twitter.com/...919616797446144 Edited January 5, 2015 by bud29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 No PI here.... https://twitter.com/...919616797446144 Â on 2nd thought you're right. That flag cost Detroit the win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 There's actually some very funny stuff on twitter. I'd link it from my phone I'm not not very tech savvy. Good stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cowboyz1 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Hell there were calls that went against us too. Hell the acting job by the Lions punter cost us points. PI or not, the defense played their ass off today. We lose McClain in the first quarter and Hitchens, a rookie comes in and plays MLB like a pro with a high ankle sprain. This team has heart and is playing it's best football. That call is one call and if I am the ref I look at it like, no way I am giving the Lions this game on a play that would not have been completed regardless of Carters influence. He had him covered like blanket and pulled his hands to allow him to make a play on the ball. The pass was a prayer and the flag should have stayed in his pocket in the first place. I see that play called PI all the time and I don't agree that it should be called at all, ever when the ball is in such a place that the receiver has no chance to make a play on the ball anyway. Had the pass been higher or if Carter ran him over then yes he prevented him from making a play on the ball. That would have been a gimmie break on a poor pass by Stafford and the ref made a good call to pick up the flag and not give them a free 1st down on a piss poor pass that had no chance of being completed. I believe the ref was not about to give them a free pass on that one. I'm glad he didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I just find it odd to pick up a flag on an obvious PI yet throw flags on much less against DET to aid the eventual game winning drive. It is not one call but the sum of the whole. Â I think DAL has a legit shot against GB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 The ole' we had calls against us too card. LMAO. The punter got run into, that wasn't a bad call in the least. Â The rest of that post was just a horrible justification. The guy was interfered with, defender back turned, offensive player was prevented from making play on ball (which could have absolutely been caught if not for PI). Â It was a crap call, why can't Cowboy fan just admit they got a lucky break. They can't, because it would put into question the sanctity of their holy franchise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Brown Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 C'mon...it was a terrible call on the PI but the Lions didn't lose because of it  In all truthfulness, anyone claiming it did or didn't is speculating. Bad calls can and do affect the outcome of games; especially ones in crucial late game defining moments. Many unbiased fans may feel a bit cheated by that no-call; and that will undoubtedly irk some Boys fans. But the best thing a Boys homer can do is just be grateful for the bad call and ignore the noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud29 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Hell there were calls that went against us too. Hell the acting job by the Lions punter cost us points. PI or not, the defense played their ass off today. We lose McClain in the first quarter and Hitchens, a rookie comes in and plays MLB like a pro with a high ankle sprain. This team has heart and is playing it's best football. That call is one call and if I am the ref I look at it like, no way I am giving the Lions this game on a play that would not have been completed regardless of Carters influence. He had him covered like blanket and pulled his hands to allow him to make a play on the ball. The pass was a prayer and the flag should have stayed in his pocket in the first place. I see that play called PI all the time and I don't agree that it should be called at all, ever when the ball is in such a place that the receiver has no chance to make a play on the ball anyway. Had the pass been higher or if Carter ran him over then yes he prevented him from making a play on the ball. That would have been a gimmie break on a poor pass by Stafford and the ref made a good call to pick up the flag and not give them a free 1st down on a piss poor pass that had no chance of being completed. I believe the ref was not about to give them a free pass on that one. I'm glad he didn't.   Did you even look at that picture that I linked? The defender was not looking back in the slightest, and was making it absolutely impossible for the receiver to make a play on the ball. Say what you want about the quality of the throw, but it was catchable. Texbook PI. As per the NFL rulebook: Actions that constitute defensive pass interference include but are not limited to:  (a) Contact by a defender who is not playing the ball and such contact restricts the receiver’s opportunity to make the catch.  (b Playing through the back of a receiver in an attempt to make a play on the ball.  © Grabbing a receiver’s arm(s) in such a manner that restricts his opportunity to catch a pass.  (d) Extending an arm across the body of a receiver thus restricting his ability to catch a pass, regardless of whether the defender is playing the ball.  (e) Cutting off the path of a receiver by making contact with him without playing the ball.  (f) Hooking a receiver in an attempt to get to the ball in such a manner that it causes the receiver’s body to turn prior to the ball arriving. Edited January 5, 2015 by bud29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cowboyz1 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 The ole' we had calls against us too card. LMAO. The punter got run into, that wasn't a bad call in the least. Â The rest of that post was just a horrible justification. The guy was interfered with, defender back turned, offensive player was prevented from making play on ball (which could have absolutely been caught if not for PI). Â It was a crap call, why can't Cowboy fan just admit they got a lucky break. They can't, because it would put into question the sanctity of their holy franchise. Â Â It was a lucky break, and i acknowledged that 99.9% of the time that call stands. However, I do understand how they picked up the flag because the ball hit Carter in the middle of his back. So there was NO chance of catching it what so ever. NO CHANCE. That is the only reason IMO the ref picked up the flag. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 In all truthfulness, anyone claiming it did or didn't is speculating. Bad calls can and do affect the outcome of games; especially ones in crucial late game defining moments. Many unbiased fans may feel a bit cheated by that no-call; and that will undoubtedly irk some Boys fans. But the best thing a Boys homer can do is just be grateful for the bad call and ignore the noise. Â Â I disagree. How many plays happen in a game? You seriously believe that a few calls negate the rest of the plays in the game? When they picked up the PI flag did that CAUSE Detroit to punt the ball 9 yards? Did the picked up flag CAUSE the Detroit defense to give up a 1st down to Witten on 4th and long? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 pic https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6jZhYuIcAA-WXa.jpg:large  official explanation to pickup the flag https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6jbrkdCAAAtMnv.jpg:large Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 It was a lucky break, and i acknowledged that 99.9% of the time that call stands. However, I do understand how they picked up the flag because the ball hit Carter in the middle of his back. So there was NO chance of catching it what so ever. NO CHANCE. That is the only reason IMO the ref picked up the flag. Â Your reasoning is incorrect and also doesn't jive with what the officials said....one said he thought the contact was minimal. Minimal? I mean this year they threw flags if you looked at a receiver wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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