Jackass Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) As for Belichick's presser yesterday, I was animate on twitter that I wasn't buying what he was selling. What do I mean by that? I mean that I don't buy that he spent "significant time" (his words, not mine) on this. He's the guy that is always, "we're onto team x" but with the Super Bowl less than two weeks away he wants us to believe that he (and whoever else on his team and staff) spent significant time on deflategate...think about that for a moment...does that even seem like anything Belichick would ever do with the biggest game of the year on the horizon? Everyone is entitled to their opinion but mine is that I'm not buying that much if any time was spent on it. I get why he held his presser (wanting to squelch the controversy) and it made sense (albeit I think he should have done that in his first presser about it.) but I just can't believe he wasted any time on this versus saying we'll comply with the NFL's investigation and after the Super Bowl will be conducting our own investigation too. Instead, what he used the presser as was as a preemptive strike to tell the NFL to prove it or shut up. I think you're splitting hairs here on the definition of "significant time". To him if he spent a few hours two days in a row, that is significant time, especially when he's got much more pressing matters to attend to in prep for the game. Edited January 26, 2015 by Jackass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I think you're splitting hairs here on the definition of "significant time". To him if he spent a few hours two days in a row, that is significant time, especially when he's got much more pressing matters to attend to in prep for the game. i don't know how much time he spent but he classified it as significant and I don't believe he spent much if any time on it. As they say, he has bigger fish to fry right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 His research is interesting, but when he uses terms like simply uncanny and dwarf he does sound like on a bit of a crusade. And total fumbles is a way better gauge than fumbles lost. The Pats being 4th overall and having 1 fumble per 73 plays vs 1 fumble per 55 plays for the next highest outdoor team doesn't sound that "uncanny". No coach emphasizes ball security like Belichick. His team is usually playing with a lead and ball security becomes even more of a priority with a lead. The Pats had Law Firm who didn't have any fumbles while with the Pats. I don't doubt that a deflated ball would lead to fewer fumbles. I just don't see these stats as proving much. The author of the article seems quite amazed. That's an assumption and can't be quantified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 That's an assumption and can't be quantified. This should be the title of this thread 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the outlaw Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 This should be the title of this thread wait, shouldn't that be the title for ALL of these threads??? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 wait, shouldn't that be the title for ALL of these threads??? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hezagenius Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Have any former NE players chimed in? Welker, Law Firm, etc? I haven't heard anything about former players commenting on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 The refs touch the ball during games but for the most part they are moving it quickly and getting it set so I could see where they may not notice. Additionally, they may not have the grip that an athlete has and therefore may not notice as much a difference either. As for other opponents, it would have to be on a turnover and there's probably enough adrenaline going that that could be reason enough not to notice. And after it was initially reported that Colts LB Jackson who intercepted Brady "noticed the ball was underinflated and informed others" he has refuted that, and we're hearing that a member of the equipment staff noticed the ball was under inflated. The teams that were playing the patriots over the last however many years likely touched the Patriots team footballs multiple thousands of times and no one ever notice a discrepancy. Yet everyone seems ready to tack any number of crazy theories onto the situation that condemns the Patriots of cheating over the last decade. Its insane. Especially when talking heads are on the networks convincing people that all professionals would know the footballs were low just by touching them. More and more people are believing bullhonda like this. Its one thing to have a farfetched conspiracy theory and amuse it because its interesting. Its another to spew it all over the place with passion and no disclaimer. What do you base the bolded on. Say 10 years, 160 regular season games, how many turnovers per game, maybe 2, that would be 320 times a year that a Pats opponent touches the ball. Would need to be 6 turnovers a year to exceed 1000. See the bolded part of kegz post above, opposing players would not be touching the ball that frequently, and it would be at very key points (turnovers) with huge excitement and adrenaline rushes. Does everybody remember that part of in "A Few Good Men" where they're talking about Col. Jessup "You think he's going to just tell you he issued the code red?" "I think he wants to tell you." This is how I see BB, he'd love to tell the media and the NFL "You're damn straight I ordeded those balls deflated! You realize how many fewer turnovers you get when you do that? I don't care what you panzies and your rules say. Am I done here?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 "A Few Good Men" parody was posted in this thread Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Brown Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 The NFL might not be talking to Tom Brady until after the Super Bowl, but it apparently has focused in on a New England Patriots locker room attendant who might have illegally tampered with footballs, per Fox Sports' Jay Glazer. The full text of Glazer's report indicates that the league's investigation into the Deflate-gate incident has focused on the attendant who allegedly took footballs from the officials' locker room to another area on the way to the field. It's not clear if this was an isolated incident for the AFC title game, or if this was behavior that occured habitually for all games. Glazer writes that the NFL has interviewed the attendant and, per Glazer's sources, possess video of the attendant's actions. The league is still trying to determine if there was any wrongdoing that happened, but the attendant is considered to be a "strong person of interest" in the investigation. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/report--nfl-investigation-into-deflate-gate-centers-in-on-patriots-attendant-204937583.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishPride Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) PATSY! has arrived.......... See original post! Before we go any further why in the name of all that is football? Would a lone equipment guy decide on his own to deflate the footballs? But now comes the part that makes me , Brady and Beli-cheat will walk, if the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit? In this case, they have tape so they get to escape! Edited January 26, 2015 by IrishPride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Wow. They now have video of the balls mysteriously disappearing on their way to the field. How the league reacts will determine how I view the NFL in the future. Might be time to find a better way to spend my time instead of an insanely corrupt league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Wow. They now have video of the balls mysteriously disappearing on their way to the field. How the league reacts will determine how I view the NFL in the future. Might be time to find a better way to spend my time instead of an insanely corrupt league. if u were the league, what would u do? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) For the Patriots to blame a change in temperature for 15% lower-pressures, requires balls to be inflated with 125-degree air. The above tweet is from an astrophysicist (Neil deGrasse Tyson) Edited January 26, 2015 by keggerz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 "A Few Good Men" parody was posted in this thread Steve. Must have missed it, or part of some video I didn't have time to watch (or I'm just getting old and cannot remember things.) For the Patriots to blame a change in temperature for 15% lower-pressures, requires balls to be inflated with 125-degree air. The above tweet is from an astrophysicist But he's not Belichik who spent a considerable amount of time on this. Bill and Tom certainly have a lot of hot air, maybe they filled the balls. I also wonder if BB rubbed his football until it got up to 125 degrees I read a report earlier today from Wilson (ball makers) who called BBs reasons BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 if u were the league, what would u do? Belichick needs to be suspended for a year. That would include this year's Super Bowl. A forfeiture of draft picks and fines would also be appropriate because they are repeat offenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BA Baracus Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Belichick needs to be suspended for a year. That would include this year's Super Bowl. A forfeiture of draft picks and fines would also be appropriate because they are repeat offenders. Agree. Cheating is worse than bountygate. At least bounties don't undermine the competition of the game itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Belichick needs to be suspended for a year. That would include this year's Super Bowl. A forfeiture of draft picks and fines would also be appropriate because they are repeat offenders. Nothing is happening until after the SB and honestly, for the good of the game, it shouldn't. If the Patriots happen to win their 4th SB with Brady and Belichick and they are found to have "cheated" then they'll also pick up their second asterisk too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 On my bucket list is sitting down with Belichick 30 or so years from now and just talking football with him after he's been given truth serum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borge007 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Belichick needs to be suspended for a year. That would include this year's Super Bowl. A forfeiture of draft picks and fines would also be appropriate because they are repeat offenders. Ah yes-GUILTY. until proven innocent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Ah yes-GUILTY. until proven innocent. He was asked if he was the league what he'd do. I'm assuming he means if the Patriots are found to be guilty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borge007 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 He was asked if he was the league what he'd do. I'm assuming he means if the Patriots are found to be guilty. You are right-Let's wait and see and then suggest a punishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) Agree. Cheating is worse than bountygate. At least bounties don't undermine the competition of the game itself. That's what Aikman said but he's dead wrong on that. Trying to decapitate the team's best player is undermining the competition of the game. Edited January 27, 2015 by Jackass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 He was asked if he was the league what he'd do. I'm assuming he means if the Patriots are found to be guilty. his post I quoted implied guilt. No? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 his post I quoted implied guilt. No? I took it as if guilty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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