HowboutthemCowboys Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 The fact that he didn't give his phone over or to his agent to get evidence does not alone make him guilty. Sure in court of public opinion, but that's not enough. but, but...ESPN said he did it!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 The mothership is always right, duh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmytose Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I have read the following quote a few times in this thread and feel it is a moot point. Also, Wells made it clear that he was comfortable with Brady's camp going through the phone themself and passing on pertinent phone records - no turning over of the phone necessary. They refused. Of course he's comfortable with it. If he doesn't like what he finds he has an easy out that Brady's camp did not provide all "pertinent" information and that without looking through the phone himself he can't be sure. No one believes anything Brady or the Patriots say/do at this point, so why would you trust them to provide the proper phone records? Simple, you wouldn't. You either give them the phone so they can look through it or you don't provide it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 if I'm not mistaken, Rodgers said in an interview recently that he has his game balls over the legal limit because that's how he likes them. Should he be suspended? Did he admit to tampering with the balls AFTER THE REFS CHECKED THEM. Or has the NFL found some evidence of that, like they have with the Pats? That is the key, every team is allowed to tinker with the balls, then the refs get them, fix them and pick a bunch to be used. After that you DO NOT TOUCH THEM. Why is this so hard for people to understand? Do you think the two are the same? keg, Interesting info regarding those occurrences in 2004, that may have been a factor in NFL punishment, or decision to find (or belive) the Pats were guilty. It has been established (Saints bounty scandal) that refusing to comply when warned about something is a big deal (as it should be, its thumbing your nose at authority). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 CBA allows commissioner to settle appeals. dumb Tell it to the players that approved it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 NFLPA plans to call goodell as a witness, asks him to recuse himself from appeal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Def. Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 NFLPA plans to call goodell as a witness, asks him to recuse himself from appeal I am Jack's total lack of surprise... Next up, Goodell sticks his head into a lion's mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BA Baracus Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I am Jack's total lack of surprise... The first rule about appeals is that you don't talk about appeals 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overworkedirish Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I have read the following quote a few times in this thread and feel it is a moot point. Of course he's comfortable with it. If he doesn't like what he finds he has an easy out that Brady's camp did not provide all "pertinent" information and that without looking through the phone himself he can't be sure. No one believes anything Brady or the Patriots say/do at this point, so why would you trust them to provide the proper phone records? Simple, you wouldn't. You either give them the phone so they can look through it or you don't provide it at all. First off, let me say I agree with your rhetorical question: Why would you trust them? Brady is a lying, cheating snake. But, speaking diplomatically: Creating a hypothetical of how you believe Ted Wells would have conducted his report had Brady cooperated and the Patriots allowed him a 2nd interview with relevant staff, to me shows that you have no interest in the facts presented, only in the person presenting those facts. I heard Brady has a few free Sundays coming up if you're looking for a good time I won't tell Chip, I promise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Def. Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 First off, let me say I agree with your rhetorical question: Why would you trust them? Brady is a lying, cheating snake. But, speaking diplomatically: Creating a hypothetical of how you believe Ted Wells would have conducted his report had Brady cooperated and the Patriots allowed him a 2nd interview with relevant staff, to me shows that you have no interest in the facts presented, only in the person presenting those facts. I heard Brady has a few free Sundays coming up if you're looking for a good time I won't tell Chip, I promise. Facts were presented? Were Brady's fingerprints found on the deflator by CSI:NFL? Doesn't seem a smoking gun has been publicized yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overworkedirish Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Facts were presented? Were Brady's fingerprints found on the deflator by CSI:NFL? Doesn't seem a smoking gun has been publicized yet. Why don't you send us a memo when you finish all 243 pages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Heard a report yesterday that the Pats were close to singing Matt Flynn, and found this on NFL.com Story says he will be signed Thursday, but don't news that it happened or was announced. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000496674/article/new-england-patriots-to-sign-qb-matt-flynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverines Fan Posted June 25, 2015 Author Share Posted June 25, 2015 A decision on Tom Brady's appeal is not expected until mid- or late-July. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/1163/tom-brady Article 46 of the CBA requires a decision to be issued "as soon as practicable." As we've seen before in cases like this, it's going to take a while. The post-hearing briefs in the appeal aren't even due until late next week, and then Roger Goodell will digest them. If Brady's camp isn't happy with the ruling, he'll then challenge the NFL in court. PFT suggests that path could lead to Brady being under center in Week 1 against the Steelers as the case gets tied up in the courts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BA Baracus Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 PFT suggests that path could lead to Brady being under center in Week 1 against the Steelers as the case gets tied up in the courts. What a bunch of bullhonda that would be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Getting the feeling that the NFL wants to look strong, but doesn't want their star player missing from their big kickoff game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Getting the feeling that the NFL wants to look strong, but doesn't want their star player missing from their big kickoff game. Meh. That game is going to have huge ratings anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Seriously, WTF could possibly be taking so long? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Seriously, WTF could possibly be taking so long? and Hardy?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Meh. That game is going to have huge ratings anyway. Sure but do they want egg on their face for a big star missing the game for cheating during the playoffs? Can they get the NBC crew to not mention it for 5-6 hours of coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Def. Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Can they get the NBC crew to not mention it for 5-6 hours of coverage. How about another lecture from Costas and/or Florio on what you should be offended by in the NFL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) There is ZERO chance the story goes unmentioned....ZERO I would be surprised if it wasn't the opening piece Edited July 9, 2015 by tazinib1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin_Akie Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Four game suspension upheld, court date next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Four game suspension upheld, court date next? Have to say that I am mildly surprised. I'd love to see this one go to court now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Papajohn Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Is this the first suspension to ever be upheld? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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