BeeR Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 It sounds like a trade is still a possibility, but I think he simply plays out this year in OAK and goes elsewhere next year. As long as the Colts don't sign him; we don't have any front 7 needs on D plus we only have $50M left in cap space after that wild FA spree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I dunno. All I know is the teams have been calling and the Raiders apparently want 2 1st round picks. On top of that, whoever gets him will have to pay him what he wants. I think he stays in Oakland as well but he'll be a holdout which will suck for his IDP League owners and Raider fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piranha Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Tough call. Looks like they're pushing for 2 first round picks for him. That's a hefty price to pay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever in debt to mo lewis Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Piranha said: Tough call. Looks like they're pushing for 2 first round picks for him. That's a hefty price to pay it is a hefty price...but not if you are in the top 1/3 of the league and expect to be there for the next few years......thats not a crazy deal for a team that thinks they are a "mack" away from being a superbowl contender.....you are basically giving one for the player....and the other to the team for the player...if one pick is in the 20s and the other one is in the mid to late 20's is it really a crazy price? weve heard the packers are interested....you think giving out 2 late 20's first rounders is a hefty price for a team that expects to be playing for a superbowl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Piranha said: Tough call. Looks like they're pushing for 2 first round picks for him. That's a hefty price to pay 2 first round picks, how many NFL players have been worth that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted August 30, 2018 Author Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, forever in debt to mo lewis said: if one pick is in the 20s and the other one is in the mid to late 20's is it really a crazy price? Yes. This isn't a franchise QB we're talking about, which IMO is the only thing to give away two #1s for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stethant Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 The two 1st round picks is just Gruden (or someone in the Raiders organization) being an idiot to try and increase leverage so that Mack shows back up and plays. No one is giving 2 ones and then paying Mack's salary, as tazinib already said. In general, NFL players have very little leverage in contract negotiations but they are probably less tolerant of the BS now after the kneeling controversy and, more importantly, the insane behavior of Goodell over the past few years. For the Raiders this is an unforced error - lose-lose for really no apparent reason. I would speculate there's a bug up Gruden's arse about something but who knows what it is. To answer the OP's question: I think he's playing in Oakland or nowhere this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XFlash Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Raiders need help in the secondary. Maybe a 1st and a good DB (S/CB). I'm hoping that after ADonald signs, there will be movement with Mack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever in debt to mo lewis Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, BeeR said: Yes. This isn't a franchise QB we're talking about, which IMO is the only thing to give away two #1s for. its not that nuts if the team is picking in the mid 20s or later...for a team tha close to the superbowl that wants to add a possible DPOY piece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever in debt to mo lewis Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, BeeR said: Yes. This isn't a franchise QB we're talking about, which IMO is the only thing to give away two #1s for. if you are a team like denver for instance...would u rather have shane ray and paxton lynch or khalil mack? if you are green bay would you rather have d randall and kenny clark or mack(randall no longer with team)? i realize the idea is to take these players with the belief they will pan out and become productive....but if they are in the bottom 1/3 of the round they arent neccessarily a lock to be solid...mack is a DPOY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stethant Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 5 hours ago, forever in debt to mo lewis said: if you are a team like denver for instance...would u rather have shane ray and paxton lynch or khalil mack? if you are green bay would you rather have d randall and kenny clark or mack(randall no longer with team)? i realize the idea is to take these players with the belief they will pan out and become productive....but if they are in the bottom 1/3 of the round they arent neccessarily a lock to be solid...mack is a DPOY of course, using this logic it would mean that Oakland should keep Mack for the exact reasons you lay out. They should pay the man and be done with it - they gave their coach "$100 million" and he literally hasn't done anything for over a decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever in debt to mo lewis Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 5 hours ago, stethant said: of course, using this logic it would mean that Oakland should keep Mack for the exact reasons you lay out. They should pay the man and be done with it - they gave their coach "$100 million" and he literally hasn't done anything for over a decade. they probably should.....but in the event that there is a rift that cant be repaired i dont think two late 1st rounders is too steep for a team picking in the bottom 1/3 of the first round thats a near SB contender if you look at the 2014-2017 drafts....only 3 guys picked from 20-32 have made a pro bowl...and im fairly sure not a single one of them has made an all pro team....1 of them is a guy who is now a backup qb-bridgewater...the other two are jason verrett and ha ha clinton dix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn5033 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Looks like da Bears. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24543080/chicago-bears-reach-agreement-trade-khalil-mack-oakland-raiders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Steep price to pay. Makes this D a very formidable group for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorttynaz Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Stupid. No defensive player worth 2 first rounders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stethant Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 yeah i think the raiders did well here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 On 8/30/2018 at 3:45 PM, forever in debt to mo lewis said: if you are a team like denver for instance...would u rather have shane ray and paxton lynch or khalil mack? if you are green bay would you rather have d randall and kenny clark or mack(randall no longer with team)? i realize the idea is to take these players with the belief they will pan out and become productive....but if they are in the bottom 1/3 of the round they arent neccessarily a lock to be solid...mack is a DPOY Hey don't be dissing Kenny Clark bud. I've acquired him in every league this year (I believe I'll have to check) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I've been getting crazy offers for Roquan Smith since the trade haha. Like really crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverines Fan Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 This trade and the big trade up in the 2017 draft to get Trubisky are clearly the make or break moves of the Ryan Pace regime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever in debt to mo lewis Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 hours ago, tazinib1 said: Hey don't be dissing Kenny Clark bud. I've acquired him in every league this year (I believe I'll have to check) Not dissing....but is he gonna make dpoy impact? Prob not...and Randall is with Cleveland now....which was my point....god bless Clark tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverines Fan Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) And the Bears just signed him to a huge extension. Hint: Aaron Donald isn't the NFL's highest paid defensive guy anymore. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/9373/khalil-mack Edited September 1, 2018 by Wolverines Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, forever in debt to mo lewis said: Not dissing....but is he gonna make dpoy impact? Prob not...and Randall is with Cleveland now....which was my point....god bless Clark tho I know lol. I just don't see his name being tossed around much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 19 hours ago, Wolverines Fan said: This trade and the big trade up in the 2017 draft to get Trubisky are clearly the make or break moves of the Ryan Pace regime. Yes. He is officially on the clock. The Bears D generated 100 QB hurries last year. Mack had 77. This should make the Bears a Top 5 unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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