RowdyRoos Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 12 team 1/2 PPR league There has been a trade accepted and the league is complaining that "offering" trades like this shouldn't even be allowed and me as commissioner should veto it because it doesn't make the league fun. 1 team approached the Gronk owner and asked if he'd be open to trade talks to send Gronk in exchange for his TE and added RB depth. (a screenshot has been provided and whole conversation is legit. Gronk owner said yes send me an offer. Gronk owner has the following at RB: Bell, Alfred Morris, Chris Thompson. That's all. League starts 2 RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 Flex. Offer was George Kittle and Peyton Barber for Gronk and was accepted. League is claiming it should be vetoed on the basis that its not even a legit offer. Gronk owner stated he doesn't feel taken advantage of and wanted a RB that is going to be lead back for respective NFL team. How do you respond to the league? There is a built-in vote where if 6 votes against it is veto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gballi15 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 If you have spoken to both owners, read the correspondence, and there is no clear cut collusion...tell the league it is what it is (as lopsided as the traded may be) and advise them of the voting rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ootter Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 I'm confused. Does your league not vote? One of ours doesn't and we elect 5 team owners at the start of the season to do the vetoing. We found people would complain but not vote like they were supposed to, hence the board of trades (or whatever you would call thats). I would look at both teams, take a tough guess at how they will do for the year and see who wins. Could be the Gronk owner feels like he will get hurt and wants to pawn him off. Considering Kittle isn't close to Gronk and Barber will probably not be the lead back by mid season....It is a poor trade. I can't see the conversation but if there is no collusion, which you can't prove 100%, I say you let it go. If your teams do vote and no one voted....tell them tough luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRoos Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 Thanks to you both. Here is their FB message conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ootter Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, RowdyRoos said: Thanks to you both. Here is their FB message conversation. That's not a lot of evidence lol. But I guess it's not like they discussed some dastardly plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRoos Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, Ootter said: That's not a lot of evidence lol. But I guess it's not like they discussed some dastardly plan. Perhaps true. The owner receiving Barber stated his position was just that he had no RB options really available to him. Here are the RB available to have been picked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ootter Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 So the gronk owner just wants to keep bell. He is risking a lower scoring te to keep a s tier rb. I think he is thinking clearly. He knows that bell and kittle will outscore gronk on most occasions. He is beating bell returns earlier rather than later. I actually think he is playing it smart. Does the other guy have solid rbs, wrs, something that makes the addition of gronk overwhelmingly strong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sd46022 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 I would approve this trade. Very little RB depth, Bell is out this week and maybe longer, Kittle has the potential to be a top 10 TE and Gronk is known for his injuries. It's not that crazy of a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana is da Man Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 I don't see collusion here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seahawk3133 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 You would think you should be able to get a little better RB than Barber for Gronk, but this isn't a brutal trade that needs to be stopped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeniscusIssues Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 If there's a voting process, there's a voting process. Let the process you agreed upon before the season happen. Is it a stupid trade? Sure. Is it so stupid you think you should vote against it? That's what the "no" button is for, folks. In the future, don't allow votes on trades. Trade vetoes should be for clear collusion and if you veto a trade it should mean the people get kicked out of your league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRoos Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 8 hours ago, MeniscusIssues said: If there's a voting process, there's a voting process. Let the process you agreed upon before the season happen. Is it a stupid trade? Sure. Is it so stupid you think you should vote against it? That's what the "no" button is for, folks. In the future, don't allow votes on trades. Trade vetoes should be for clear collusion and if you veto a trade it should mean the people get kicked out of your league. Agreed. Last year it was no-vote and they all got pissed when an owner traded away David Johnson before week 1 for Sammy Watkins and DeMarco Murray (when Murray was projected as a decent RB for the Titans). So this year a vote was added and now they're saying it should just be vetoed. I think they just get upset that a trade is happening and they didn't get Gronk or DJ last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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