PPIchamp Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 More Randy Moss or Ochocinco? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyrckstar Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 IF he plays, it's Randy Moss. BIG IF on playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peoplehater Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 This has to be a kick in BALLS to Dez, Pats take a guy with (in my opinion) way more baggage than Dez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyrckstar Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, peoplehater said: This has to be a kick in BALLS to Dez, Pats take a guy with (in my opinion) way more baggage than Dez. Yep Dez can't even find a team due to no one believes in his production. Meanwhile, Gordon has been a mess for years and yet about a dozen teams were trying to find out on his availability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Def. Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, indyrckstar said: IF he plays, it's Randy Moss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, peoplehater said: This has to be a kick in BALLS to Dez, Pats take a guy with (in my opinion) way more baggage than Dez. Well that's easy Josh comes with a very small contract and isn't going to be screaming about not being involved. He's got baggage of a different kind, one that if it kicks in he's suspended and the Pats owe him nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyrckstar Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Def. said: IF he plays, you think he is closer to Ochocinco? Ocho was washed up as a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, indyrckstar said: IF he plays, you think he is closer to Ochocinco? Ocho was washed up as a player. I think expecting Randy Moss type revival from Josh is misguided, he had the one really good year, every time since he's returned and been MEH. Now he's on a new team, new offense, new QB and a coach that won't take manure. They're not going to treat him like the Browns did, which means more stress for a guy on the verge of having a relapse (if he didn't already, reports are he was "out of it" when he showed up Saturday, and a player told the media he was high/drunk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyrckstar Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, stevegrab said: I think expecting Randy Moss type revival from Josh is misguided, he had the one really good year, every time since he's returned and been MEH. Now he's on a new team, new offense, new QB and a coach that won't take manure. They're not going to treat him like the Browns did, which means more stress for a guy on the verge of having a relapse (if he didn't already, reports are he was "out of it" when he showed up Saturday, and a player told the media he was high/drunk. I get that but the OP's question was Josh closer to Moss or Ocho. I responded with first saying "IF" he plays, I see him the pendulum being closer to Moss than Ocho. Perhaps in between of the two. Still based on the "IF" part though. I don't have confidence with his off the field stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Profound Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Someone dropped him in my league and I have num1 waiver priority. My other wrs are Antonio Brown, Emmanuel Sanders, and Kenny Golladay. Should I use waiver priority on him or wait? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Def. Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, indyrckstar said: IF he plays, you think he is closer to Ochocinco? Ocho was washed up as a player. I just don't think there's a shot in hell he will come close to the level of a HoF Moss and 2007 Brady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Def. Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, indyrckstar said: I get that but the OP's question was Josh closer to Moss or Ocho. I responded with first saying "IF" he plays, I see him the pendulum being closer to Moss than Ocho. Perhaps in between of the two. Still based on the "IF" part though. I don't have confidence with his off the field stuff. Ya sorry, bad phrasing in the OP. Maybe he should of gone with a different pair. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peoplehater Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I highly (no pun intended) doubt Gordon can learn that playbook, this will definitely be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyrckstar Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Def. said: I just don't think there's a shot in hell he will come close to the level of a HoF Moss and 2007 Brady. You might be right. I just see him being a capable players still if he is on the field. He is freak in the level of Julio Jones. Too bad his off the field ruined a large part of his career. This is the first time he has a good QB throwing the ball. Cleveland best QB was always subpar. Edited September 17, 2018 by indyrckstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyrckstar Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, peoplehater said: I highly (no pun intended) doubt Gordon can learn that playbook, this will definitely be interesting. Everything about him is interesting!!! He could make a reality show and I would watch. Just to see if he fails or overcomes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peoplehater Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Yes definitely, I dont want to see anyone fail but he would put on a good show either way. Now I see the Eagles getting Dez to make everything normal again in the NFL between Dez, Gordon and Davis retiring at half time LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Profound Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 So yes or no on picking him on waivers? I hate using number one priority if hes going to be cut again in three weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorttynaz Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 He will be irrelevant for the next 4 or 5 weeks if he even makes it that far. It's not like he already knows the playbook. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Profound said: So yes or no on picking him on waivers? I hate using number one priority if hes going to be cut again in three weeks. advice questions will not be answered here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorttynaz Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Profound said: So yes or no on picking him on waivers? I hate using number one priority if hes going to be cut again in three weeks. Check the advice forum. But I'd find it a hard buy to waste my #1 priority on a WR who has the potential but may not be given a real opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Def. Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 40 minutes ago, indyrckstar said: You might be right. I just see him being a capable players still if he is on the field. He is freak in the level of Julio Jones. Too bad his off the field ruined a large part of his career. This is the first time he has a good QB throwing the ball. Cleveland best QB was always subpar. Will again put out a general caution, that the Julio level of play was 5 years ago. He has not shown that level since. Hard not to think father time has already won here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 53 minutes ago, Shorttynaz said: He will be irrelevant for the next 4 or 5 weeks if he even makes it that far. It's not like he already knows the playbook. Saw on another board that someone said that Haley (OC for Browns) uses a lot of the same basic terminology that the Patsies use. Not saying he's going to be an expert at the Pats' system, but it's worth mentioning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyrckstar Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Def. said: Will again put out a general caution, that the Julio level of play was 5 years ago. He has not shown that level since. Hard not to think father time has already won here. He's only 27 years old. The last 5 years has been about him being a screw up. He played maybe like 11 games in that period. I had him last year for the last few games. He did better than expected given the crappy Cleveland QB play. I'm not saying it's going to happen. Just believe he still has the ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 A talented scumbag on the Cheatriots*? No way, really?? This is nothing to lose/everything to gain for NE, who need more receiving targets badly and now get a one with a very high ceiling. Figures. Yeah there are numerous potential pitfalls, but the talent is still there (was I the only one who saw that incredible TD grab vs PIT?), he has very low mileage and if anyone can squeeze lemonade from this guy, it's NE. As much as I hate them, credit where due, they've done this time and again and made the rest of the NFL look like fools for not stepping up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelredd9 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 I think Gordon might make an immediate impact. He doesn't need to understand the playbook to run deep routes. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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