XFlash Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Terrible start. Hou @ Bal Watson long ball to Hopkins, DB grabbed him before ball got there right in front of ref and no PI! Terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 this could be a long thread. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XFlash Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 1 minute ago, XFlash said: Terrible start. Hou @ Bal Watson long ball to Hopkins, DB grabbed him before ball got there right in front of ref and no PI! Terrible. Reviewed and not turned over. NO PI! Such B.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 It got reviewed and they found that that wasn't PI?!?! ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!? UNBELIEVABLE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemonster Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Lol I thought this was a preemptive thread just having a place for all the inevitable bad calls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XFlash Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 Just now, purplemonster said: Lol I thought this was a preemptive thread just having a place for all the inevitable bad calls Yes. I'm sure the refs and NY NFL review booth won't disappoint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemonster Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, XFlash said: Yes. I'm sure the refs and NY NFL review booth won't disappoint Might have to become a weekly fixture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 7 hours ago, purplemonster said: Might have to become a weekly fixture Might cause the forums to break down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XFlash Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 I was watching recap replays. NO @ TB Offese PI Mike Evans. I thought it was allowed to push off within 1 yd from scrimmage. I know that it happen in earlier games and no calls. Replay shows that he was within 1 yd. I really don't get it. This time replay was clear and obvious and they still did not reverse call. I'm puzzled beyond belief. Why allow PI challenges if you are not going to reverse any even with clear evidence of requirement qualification that define PI? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemonster Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 I think the stat is since week 4, 32 of 33 PI reviews have not been overturned. The NFL's approach to this has been rather puzzling. I don't know who is behind it, Riveron, the officials, the NFL brass. All of them? Just seems odd to pass a new rule then clearly not enforce it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millworkguy Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 hours ago, XFlash said: I was watching recap replays. NO @ TB Offese PI Mike Evans. I thought it was allowed to push off within 1 yd from scrimmage. I know that it happen in earlier games and no calls. Replay shows that he was within 1 yd. I really don't get it. This time replay was clear and obvious and they still did not reverse call. I'm puzzled beyond belief. Why allow PI challenges if you are not going to reverse any even with clear evidence of requirement qualification that define PI? The refs don't want the rule, it was forced on them and now everytime one is challenged they get offended, and are trying to teach coaches not to challenge them. They will call the game as they see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, purplemonster said: I think the stat is since week 4, 32 of 33 PI reviews have not been overturned. The NFL's approach to this has been rather puzzling. I don't know who is behind it, Riveron, the officials, the NFL brass. All of them? Just seems odd to pass a new rule then clearly not enforce it. Typical NFL, overreact, change things to try and appease people. Media and fans scream, do something to try and placate them. It is beyond dumb they've basically decided to give people the impression they'll fix horrible missed/called PI with a challenge, but then don't accept that any of their calls (even with clear visual evidence) are wrong. "We'll fix our mistakes, if we ever make one, which we rarely do" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XFlash Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 4 hours ago, millworkguy said: The refs don't want the rule, it was forced on them and now everytime one is challenged they get offended, and are trying to teach coaches not to challenge them. They will call the game as they see it. This reasoning I can believe. It is sad to think that is what is happening at the cost of game integrity, players livelihood, and Fan enjoyment. I wish NFL would post how they hold refs accountable every week. That kind of transparency would go a long ways to showing NFL true intent of rule changes and accountability. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 On 11/18/2019 at 11:54 AM, XFlash said: This reasoning I can believe. It is sad to think that is what is happening at the cost of game integrity, players livelihood, and Fan enjoyment. I wish NFL would post how they hold refs accountable every week. That kind of transparency would go a long ways to showing NFL true intent of rule changes and accountability. Agree. And why don't the Refs have to hold press conferences after every game. I'd love to see that every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XFlash Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 14 hours ago, League_Champion said: Agree. And why don't the Refs have to hold press conferences after every game. I'd love to see that every week. That would be great! What type of questions do you think reporters would ask? - were you aware before the game the over/under released by Las Vegas? - were you told before that game to look for certain fouls or pay particular attention to said foul(s)? - were you contacted by anybody in NFL Commissioners offices? Body language would tell a lot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 2 hours ago, XFlash said: That would be great! What type of questions do you think reporters would ask? - were you aware before the game the over/under released by Las Vegas? - were you told before that game to look for certain fouls or pay particular attention to said foul(s)? - were you contacted by anybody in NFL Commissioners offices? Body language would tell a lot. Yes!!! Accountability at it's finest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 12 hours ago, XFlash said: That would be great! What type of questions do you think reporters would ask? - were you aware before the game the over/under released by Las Vegas? - were you told before that game to look for certain fouls or pay particular attention to said foul(s)? - were you contacted by anybody in NFL Commissioners offices? Body language would tell a lot. "When you're on the radio with NY reviewing a play do you yell scream and throw things because they're just as incompetent as you?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 56 minutes ago, stevegrab said: "When you're on the radio with NY reviewing a play do you yell scream and throw things because they're just as incompetent as you?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XFlash Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 20 hours ago, stevegrab said: "When you're on the radio with NY reviewing a play do you yell scream and throw things because they're just as incompetent as you?" This was about after the game accountability and/or interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XFlash Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 Terrible call. OAK @ NYJ Sack on Darnold and they call roughing passer when another OAK player fell on Darnold. Not a pancake, but looked like a push onto him. Result half distance and then TD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slambo Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 58 minutes ago, XFlash said: Terrible call. OAK @ NYJ Sack on Darnold and they call roughing passer when another OAK player fell on Darnold. Not a pancake, but looked like a push onto him. Result half distance and then TD. Atrocious call... no helmet to helmet...NOTHING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XFlash Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share Posted November 25, 2019 DAL @ NEP tripping on DAL #70 Driving under 2 mins left. Video shows no tripping at all! They really want NEP to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XFlash Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share Posted November 25, 2019 It is hard to hear the commentary. Troy saying no tripping and other guys is trying to justify saying #70 lifted his leg. Total BS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Yup, the phantom tripping was atrocious. I was happy to hear Troy openly disagree with the referee commentator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millworkguy Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Idk, the game happens in real time, not in replay, lmk how you feel when every play takes 3-5 minutes because they want to review the actions of all 22 guys on the field before making a ruling. Life isnt perfect, football isnt perfect, and the refs aren't perfect. Not sure I really enjoy the current product, not sold that more replay, and the cost to create a perfectly called game will be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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