Shaft Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) "Roger Goodell volunteers to go without salary amid coronavirus pandemic." https://usatoday.com/amp/3049732001 Edited April 29, 2020 by Shaft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Nice gesture but he gave up $4-$5 million of the $40 million per year he receives. I'd be willing to take an even bigger pay cut if I was still making $35 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWBOUND33 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Somehow he probably won't give up anything. Remember the NFL is all about smoke and mirrors. But I sure hope they start the season on time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awahl63 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 13 hours ago, DMD said: Nice gesture but he gave up $4-$5 million of the $40 million per year he receives. I'd be willing to take an even bigger pay cut if I was still making $35 million. Agreed. A 10% haircut when you're making 8 digits really doesn't amount to much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Anytime I read about Goodell's salary I get sick to my stomach. Here I am fighting paycheck to paycheck, just got a 20% salary cut but working the same hours, and this jerkward is making millions upon millions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemonster Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 (edited) In the last 12 years his cumulative salary was over 200 million. His base is 4M but it's the rest is incentives. Hopefully he'll still be able to put food on the table forgoing that 4M, assuming it isn't prorated. https://www.google.com/amp/s/fanbuzz.com/nfl/roger-goodell-net-worth/amp/ Edited May 1, 2020 by purplemonster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 (edited) If the rest of the world’s mega millionaires each gave up 10% of their 2020 earnings that would solve a lot of people’s financial problems. I am not sure why this gesture is getting such a negative reaction. If he had not done this it probably would have gone unmentioned. Edited May 3, 2020 by Caveman_Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted May 3, 2020 Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 Wow, the hate is amazing. People love some Roger Goodell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Poor Roger, how will he get by? I hope he got his Stimulus Check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 9 hours ago, Caveman_Nick said: If the rest of the world’s mega millionaires each gave up 10% of their 2020 earnings that would solve a lot of people’s financial problems. I am not sure why this gesture is getting such a negative reaction. If he had not done this it probably would have gone unmentioned. He's basically giving his salary back to the ownership because they are losing game revenue. I just don't see that as such a noble gesture, especially since it's really a drop in the bucket to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, rajncajn said: He's basically giving his salary back to the ownership because they are losing game revenue. I just don't see that as such a noble gesture, especially since it's really a drop in the bucket to him. It's also one hell of a tax credit that his accountant will surely recoup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 8 hours ago, rajncajn said: He's basically giving his salary back to the ownership because they are losing game revenue. I just don't see that as such a noble gesture, especially since it's really a drop in the bucket to him. It's not noble because it's a drop in the bucket? 10% of anyone's salary is significant. Reports said it started last month and will be ongoing. But everyone has their own perspective on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 10 hours ago, rajncajn said: He's basically giving his salary back to the ownership because they are losing game revenue. I just don't see that as such a noble gesture, especially since it's really a drop in the bucket to him. Try and look at it another way... How many NFL employees salaries is he paying with the money he is giving back, people that otherwise may get furloughed / laid off? Again, just not understanding the animosity towards the action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Shaft said: It's not noble because it's a drop in the bucket? 10% of anyone's salary is significant. Reports said it started last month and will be ongoing. But everyone has their own perspective on this. 4-5 million from 40. Whatever shall he do with only 35 million this year?!?! I wish I could sacrifice like that. Yeah, I applaud the effort, but I'd applaud it even more if he were donating it to charity or using it to give back to the fans that have put all that money in his pockets. I just don't see the nobility in letting your millionaire bosses keep 5 million of the 40 they're giving you. Edited May 4, 2020 by rajncajn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 43 minutes ago, Caveman_Nick said: Try and look at it another way... How many NFL employees salaries is he paying with the money he is giving back, people that otherwise may get furloughed / laid off? Again, just not understanding the animosity towards the action. Probably very little honestly. The article says that employees are still having to take a 5-15% pay cut and many are still being furloughed. This is a gesture, but it's insignificant in comparison to the effect those other employees will be seeing. I guess if I was an NFL employee I would be ok with a 15% cut in pay rather than laid off, but that 5 or 15% is going to hurt me much more than him giving up 5 million of the exorbitant amount of money he's still going to bring home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 There's real people out there with real problems. F Roger Goodell, yippie yo for him. He's got a few hundred million In the bank. I'm pretty sure he'll get by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 There are some who say the wealthy have it easy and these same will say the poor don't work hard enough. Everyone has their perspective I guess, but I just find it ironic that there are some who attack both ends of the spectrum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 hour ago, rajncajn said: 4-5 million from 40. Whatever shall he do with only 35 million this year?!?! I wish I could sacrifice like that. Yeah, I applaud the effort, but I'd applaud it even more if he were donating it to charity or using it to give back to the fans that have put all that money in his pockets. I just don't see the nobility in letting your millionaire bosses keep 5 million of the 40 they're giving you. Time will tell if this will continue. If so, it will definitely be more than 5 million. I understand the criticism, but I also see it as he could've kept it like many others are doing. I hate the way he runs the league, but I guess his salary going to "0" is a matter of perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 On 5/4/2020 at 5:54 AM, Shaft said: It's not noble because it's a drop in the bucket? 10% of anyone's salary is significant. Reports said it started last month and will be ongoing. But everyone has their own perspective on this. Most people hate Goodell and blame him for everything they don't like about the NFL, instead of blaming the owners (including the for their favorite team) that has put him in power. I find it to be pretty childish and have pointed it out many times, to the criticism of many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemonster Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 It's not that I hate Goodell, it's that I think he's grossly overpaid, as are CEO's in general. Many have gotten the jobs through connections or cronyism rather than sheer ability, and even when they fail they are handsomely rewarded. Look at Dennis Muilenberg, Boeing CEO. Couldn't have done a worse job and damn near cratered the company and he'll walk away with probably close to 100 million (my guess, I haven't looked this up). Or John Stumpf for Wells-Fargo. Absolutely butchered the company and he'll walk away with easy 100 million plus. That and the games they play with stock buybacks, options, stacking the Board with buddies who approve massive pay raises, and the corporate bailouts they expect when they overextend themselves but aren't willing to extend to the average Joe. I am not a "eat the rich" kind of guy, I don't expect things to be equal, I like capitalism, I just think they are grossly overvalued and they have some systemic advantages to inflate their pay. So when I see a guy like Goodell throwing what for him are literal scraps I reflexively gag a little. But good on him, he didn't need to do it, so give him credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemonster Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Apologies for the non-football rant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 On 5/3/2020 at 2:29 PM, Shaft said: Wow, the hate is amazing. People love some Roger Goodell. It really is! Dude gave up 4 million dollars! That's 1/10 of what he makes. I wouldn't want to give up 1/10 of what I make, even if, like him, I'd be fine compared to many others. It's my damn money! I should be punished, mocked or criticized because of the job I have, which still pays me my full salary where others are unemployed or are taking % cuts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, irish said: It really is! Dude gave up 4 million dollars! That's 1/10 of what he makes. I wouldn't want to give up 1/10 of what I make, even if, like him, I'd be fine compared to many others. It's my damn money! I should be punished, mocked or criticized because of the job I have, which still pays me my full salary where others are unemployed or are taking % cuts? Is it really that Nobel? He makes 40 million a year not including bonuses, has banked over 300 million, has full access to a private Jet owned by the NFL, the NFL credit card, NFL leased vehicles, Healthcare, retirement, etc. And it's a nice tax ride off, rich people problems. I'm not saying it's a bad thing but I'm not ready to anoint him Man Of The Year either. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/much-does-roger-goodell-earn-000401052.html Edited May 7, 2020 by League_Champion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, stevegrab said: Most people hate Goodell and blame him for everything they don't like about the NFL, instead of blaming the owners (including the for their favorite team) that has put him in power. I find it to be pretty childish and have pointed it out many times, to the criticism of many. I just love blanket, passive aggressive statements like this. I've disliked Goodell for just about as long as he's been in his position for the decisions he's made, the attitude he has and his selective and inequitable punishments. Why would I blame the owners as a whole or specifically the owner of my team for decisions that Goodell has made and actions that he's taken simply because the owners as a whole voted to put him in that position? Do you think every single owner voted to put him there? Do you think every single owner agrees with every decision he makes? As for this instance, I don't see anyone really criticizing him for giving up some of his salary. I just don't think a lot of us see it as big of a deal as it's made out to be, especially due to the fact that many of us think he makes way more than he should given the performance he's provided from a fan's perspective and, again, 5 from 40 million. Edited May 7, 2020 by rajncajn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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