League_Champion Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Well there goes the Texans leverage. Deshaun is virtually untradable right now. @AaronWilson_NFL · NFL is reviewing the lawsuits filed against Deshaun Watson under its personal conduct policy with Lisa Friel, special counsel of investigations leading investigation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverines Fan Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 32 minutes ago, League_Champion said: Well there goes the Texans leverage. Deshaun is virtually untradable right now. @AaronWilson_NFL · NFL is reviewing the lawsuits filed against Deshaun Watson under its personal conduct policy with Lisa Friel, special counsel of investigations leading investigation It's easy to second guess the Texans here, but if they had traded him some other team would be dealing with this mess right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) The 3rd one https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31086798/houston-texans-qb-deshaun-watson-accused-sexual-assault-third-civil-lawsuit%3fplatform=amp Edited March 18, 2021 by Shaft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemonster Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Shaft said: The 3rd one https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31086798/houston-texans-qb-deshaun-watson-accused-sexual-assault-third-civil-lawsuit%3fplatform=amp So none of these women filed a police report? I am not victim blaming here, I am asking a question. Somebody forcefully made her perform oral sex 3 months ago and she had no interaction with the police? Why have zero people reported this instead of going through their lawyers? Edited March 18, 2021 by purplemonster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 19 minutes ago, purplemonster said: So none of these women filed a police report? I am not victim blaming here, I am asking a question. Somebody forcefully made her perform oral sex 3 months ago and she had no interaction with the police? Why have zero people reported this instead of going through their lawyers? Exactly, at some point don't you have to call shenanigans? How serious can you take "Sexual Assault" allegations if there's no police report? It sounds like something definitely happened but what exactly did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millworkguy Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 28 minutes ago, purplemonster said: So none of these women filed a police report? I am not victim blaming here, I am asking a question. Somebody forcefully made her perform oral sex 3 months ago and she had no interaction with the police? Why have zero people reported this instead of going through their lawyers? I believe the estimate is 75% of assaulted women don't file a report from sexual assault. Not being believed, victim blaming, testifying in court, and distrust of the police are some 9f the top reasons why. Have you ever asked your wife/partner if they have ever been sexually assaulted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, millworkguy said: I believe the estimate is 75% of assaulted women don't file a report from sexual assault. Not being believed, victim blaming, testifying in court, and distrust of the police are some 9f the top reasons why. Have you ever asked your wife/partner if they have ever been sexually assaulted? But they'll file a lawsuit for the World to see?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millworkguy Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Just now, League_Champion said: But they'll file a lawsuit for the World to see?? 1 does, and others find strength in the 1sts actions. Someone who knows what they went through, Didn't you ever join something when you where younger? why were you not the one to start it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millworkguy Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Btw, my cousin is in jail for murdering his abuser. 30 to life, sentenced as a minor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, millworkguy said: 1 does, and others find strength in the 1sts actions. Someone who knows what they went through, Didn't you ever join something when you where younger? why were you not the one to start it. So money makes it all go away? I know you're right but in this case it's all about the money, not closure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millworkguy Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, League_Champion said: So money makes it all go away? I know you're right but in this case it's all about the money, not closure. Money enables her to not take male clients, and have a slow week as a self employed professional. money allows her to move so she doesn't have to work / walk past the spot she was allegedly abused every day, money gets her a private therapist and a safe space to process what she deems happened to her. Money is the security blanket that gives her options to put her life back together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverines Fan Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/18/lawyer-claims-he-has-nine-clients-with-claims-against-deshaun-watson/ This lawyer says he has nine clients with claims against Watson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millworkguy Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 I have no idea what happened, did he roll over to scratch an itch and she moved her hand at the wrong time, is it all b.s.? Somewhere in the middle? of the 3 women i know who have been assaulted none have filed a police report, only 1 that I know of told a buddy of the guy and let his friends take care of it for her. The other 2 who knows, the women may have been their only victim, they may have been 1 of 30. But until we know more, I'll reserve judgment and trade for a better backup qb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 4 hours ago, millworkguy said: ) "I'm sorry you felt that way..." it may leave the door open enough that with others coming forward questions about his behavior and intent become necessary. Yup, maybe he was a bad tipper? Maybe they made advances toward him? Maybe they are looking for a payday? With no Police report, hard evidence (get it?) Or witnesses it's hard for me to feel sorry for these women. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 57 minutes ago, League_Champion said: Yup, maybe he was a bad tipper? Maybe they made advances toward him? Maybe they are looking for a payday? With no Police report, hard evidence (get it?) Or witnesses it's hard for me to feel sorry for these women. Victims don't need to be felt sorry for. If he did it, he did it. Does it really matter when they report it? Also civil cases are much easier to win than criminal cases, so from a legal perspective, it does make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, Shaft said: Victims don't need to be felt sorry for. If he did it, he did it. Does it really matter when they report it? Also civil cases are much easier to win than criminal cases, so from a legal perspective, it does make sense. Agree but without a criminal case we don't know if he did anything. The civil case will be settled out of court whether he did anything or not. So he's presumed guilty anyway you slice it. And what if he's the actual victim in all this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Watch Watson end up on the Patriots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Dcat said: Watch Watson end up on the Patriots. That would suck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemonster Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 This Buzbee guy seems like he likes attention. Spilling details to the press, a text leaks out. It seems like someone is trying to apply pressure to get a settlement https://www.foxnews.com/sports/deshaun-watson-alleged-messages-one-accuser-lawyer-press-conference https://nypost.com/2021/03/18/who-is-tony-buzbee-the-lawyer-going-after-deshaun-watson/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemonster Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 15 hours ago, millworkguy said: I believe the estimate is 75% of assaulted women don't file a report from sexual assault. Not being believed, victim blaming, testifying in court, and distrust of the police are some 9f the top reasons why. Have you ever asked your wife/partner if they have ever been sexually assaulted? Yep, I get it, and you're right. I still can't help but feel it is a money grab though in a lot of cases. There are legitimate victims, there are also opportunists. Hard to separate the two when the evidence is scant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, purplemonster said: Yep, I get it, and you're right. I still can't help but feel it is a money grab though in a lot of cases. There are legitimate victims, there are also opportunists. Hard to separate the two when the evidence is scant. They can also be one in the same. Because a victim turns it into a money grab situation doesn't make them less of a victim. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemonster Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, Shaft said: They can also be one in the same. Because a victim turns it into a money grab situation doesn't make them less of a victim. And I think that's a sizable group of people. I think the me-too movement is a great thing. Men have taken advantage of women throughout time and more frequently than not, got away with it. But I think there needs to be presumption of innocence and careful examination of facts before we condemn someone. If we blanket assume the woman is always right it invites a lot of unseemly behavior. This is not the easiest thing to judge with behavior happening behind closed doors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Def. Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Rotoworld (or whatever its called now): Quote Four new lawsuits alleging sexual misconduct have been filed against Deshaun Watson. The Houston Chronicle reported the new batch of suits filed by women who claim Watson engaged in misconduct during massage sessions. One of the new lawsuits alleges that Watson assaulted the same massage therapist twice in fall 2020. Six of the lawsuits accuse Watson of inappropriately touching women with his penis. He allegedly resisted wearing towels to cover his naked body during the massage sessions. The NFL has said it is investigating the allegations made against Watson, who is seeking a trade out of Houston. The league has not punished players based on civil lawsuits. Just gonna say, that's a lot of smoke... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stethant Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Could be true, could not be true. People accused of crimes get their day in court. Bobby Kraft was dead to rights guilty and then.....crickets...... I will let justice do its thing on this one. We've all been burned believing things one way or the other. Basically I agree with millworkguy. Oh, and Watson is definitely ending up on the Patriots. You think they spent on all those free agents to have Cam throwing to them? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Def. said: Rotoworld (or whatever its called now): Just gonna say, that's a lot of smoke... Well, most people don't die from the fires, they die from the smoke. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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