Big John Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) per ESPN. The Jets are reportedly getting a sixth-round pick in 2021 and a second-round pick and fourth-round pick in 2022 out of the deal. Edited April 5, 2021 by Big John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverines Fan Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Not a Jets homer but I don't think Darnold was the problem in N.Y. The Jets organization failed him. Let's see if Matt Rhule can fix Darnold's confidence which was destroyed by Adam Gase. Will the Panthers keep Bridgewater? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Dam, they got more than I expected. But at the same time it's a good deal for Carolina to. They had to do something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millworkguy Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 I wonder if the picks are conditional and if this has more to do with the asking price for picks 4 and 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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irish Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 4 hours ago, Wolverines Fan said: Not a Jets homer but I don't think Darnold was the problem in N.Y. The Jets organization failed him. Let's see if Matt Rhule can fix Darnold's confidence which was destroyed by Adam Gase. Will the Panthers keep Bridgewater? I think they try to trade him. Believe they just signed him to 3 more years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted April 6, 2021 Author Share Posted April 6, 2021 He signed the 3-year contract last year and counts $23M against the cap this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 23 minutes ago, Big John said: He signed the 3-year contract last year and counts $23M against the cap this year. Gotcha, wouldn't be shocked if they moved him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffraff Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 5 hours ago, Wolverines Fan said: Younger than Joe Burrow, currently age 24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 8 hours ago, Big John said: He signed the 3-year contract last year and counts $23M against the cap this year. That's not going to be an easy contract to move. There's just not a huge market for him right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docniner Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Might have to be a QB injury somewhere for a team.to.ask about Bridgewater. His contract would be an issue but he is capable of being a starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 (edited) Panthers have given Bridgewater the OK to seek a trade https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/04/06/report-panthers-allow-teddy-bridgewater-to-talk-to-teams-about-trade/ Guess I was thinking the Panthers would have an open QB competition, not just hand the starting job to Darnold who hasn't started out great. Some potential landing spots with a chance to start could include Saints or Texans. But the Panthers probably have to eat part of that contract to trade him. Edited April 6, 2021 by stevegrab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 39 minutes ago, stevegrab said: Panthers have given Bridgewater the OK to seek a trade https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/04/06/report-panthers-allow-teddy-bridgewater-to-talk-to-teams-about-trade/ Guess I was thinking the Panthers would have an open QB competition, not just hand the starting job to Darnold who hasn't started out great. Some potential landing spots with a chance to start could include Saints or Texans. But the Panthers probably have to eat part of that contract to trade him. Yeah, for me, this was the obvious expected move. I think they're more likely to have Darnold backed up by a drafted rookie and a true veteran backup, not Bridgewater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Bridgewater will likely have to wait until training camp to get something done. Look what happened with Sam Bradford a few years ago. A training camp injury may happen, and Bridgewater would be the best option available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 He's going to a team that has much better talent than he had in NY but most importantly Carolina still holds the #8 overall pick. If Darnold figures it out they can be real good, real fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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irish Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Wolverines Fan said: That's rough and one of them might now be a career backup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 I guess the days of grooming your QB are done. There is so much at stake now that you need a return on your investment almost immediately or you move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 17 minutes ago, LordOpie said: I think, and could be wrong, but that's their "excuse". I think the real problem is they don't know how to coach anywhere near as well as in the past. I think this is very much true for my Broncos. I think Bills and Josh Allen and BAL and Lamar are the exceptions these days. I feel confident that Darnold and Josh Rosen could've been very good QBs, but they landed in a piss situation. I can definitely agree with that. And look at the typical coaches tenure nowadays. It seams like most teams are turning over coaches every 3 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/7/2021 at 5:27 PM, LordOpie said: I think, and could be wrong, but that's their "excuse". I think the real problem is they don't know how to coach anywhere near as well as in the past. I think this is very much true for my Broncos. I think Bills and Josh Allen and BAL and Lamar are the exceptions these days. I feel confident that Darnold and Josh Rosen could've been very good QBs, but they landed in a piss situation. Partially true, there's just not much patience all around. And if a team is hiring new coaches or GMs every year or two, and turning over a large chunk of their roster its hard for anybody to learn and become a lot better. I remember watching the Ravens when Lamar was a rookie, they were afraid to try much of a passing game, and I figured he was another running QB who would not pan out. Good coaching and a willing student made it work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stethant Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Yeah over the years I think it becomes clearer that very talented players land in bad situations and that's just it for their career. In better surroundings, they could've been way better (see Ryan Tannehill). But circumstances actually make a big difference. Think Mahomes on the Bears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Think Ben Roethlisberger not going to a stacked Steelers team. Some Browns fans were angry we didn't draft him. they love their local Ohio QBs ever since Bernie came close to leading them to the promised land. (Browns took Kellen Winslow II, who was a good talented player but a knucklehead then and worse after retirement.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Well it had to happen. Joe Douglas and Saleh want "their own" guy. Darnold was given horrible weapons and worse coaching in fact he was NOT coached. Lets hope all that stops on this God foresaken team. But I will say this... Darnold is as dumb as a doorknob out there. He has TERRIBLE footwork, balance and field vision. He "sees ghosts" even when there is no pressure. He is inaccurate as f*ck with his long ball. But the main problem is... and will always be... he is incredibly slow in processing what is happening and then he will make really dumb decisions. He just doesn't have it. Career backup/journeyman. Hey, I hope I'm wrong. He;s the nicest kid you could ever meet. Professional, polite and good to his fans. It breaks my heart to be in this position, but I'm not wrong about his ineptitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Brown Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Non rhetorical question. Has there been any QBs recently, outside of Tannehill, that had an established record of busting and made substantial improvement with a second organization? Tannehill seems to be the exception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 7 hours ago, Bobby Brown said: Non rhetorical question. Has there been any QBs recently, outside of Tannehill, that had an established record of busting and made substantial improvement with a second organization? Tannehill seems to be the exception. I don't think many have had the chance to succeed after showing their bustability. Maybe Cousins, he was pretty bad in WAS then showed improvement in MIN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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