Urban Meyer

[FinishTheDrill]

18 hours ago, squirrelmastr21 said:

The players do not care about this. Just an opportunity for everyone in the media to bash Meyer.

 

This is an honest assessment.

[FinishTheDrill]

On 10/5/2021 at 11:34 AM, buddahj said:

Yeah...dude needs to resign & take accountability for his inappropriate behavior. 

 

lol

[FinishTheDrill]

On 10/5/2021 at 12:06 PM, League_Champion said:

 

And his crappy coaching job. 

 

This is an honest assessment

[buddahj]

13 hours ago, FinishTheDrill said:

 

lol

Are you defending Meyer's actions or think it's funny because you know he's not going take accountability for what he's done? 

[FinishTheDrill]

8 minutes ago, buddahj said:

Are you defending Meyer's actions or think it's funny because you know he's not going take accountability for what he's done? 

 

Perhaps I am out of the news cycle.    What has Urban Meyer done, and what does taking accountability actually look like in buddahj's world?

 

 

[buddahj]

7 minutes ago, FinishTheDrill said:

 

Perhaps I am out of the news cycle.    What has Urban Meyer done, and what does taking accountability actually look like in buddahj's world?

 

 

So you quoted me & don't know what's going on? Cool, cool, cool 

And if you're okay with Meyer's pattern of behavior then there's zero point of any further discussion. 

[FinishTheDrill]

4 minutes ago, buddahj said:

So you quoted me & don't know what's going on? Cool, cool, cool 

 

lol, what pattern of behavior, exactly, is going to cause the blush of the choir boys in the NFL, the networks who've run a constant stream of trash for 35 years, and the consumers whose collective #1, 2, and 3 most visited websites deal in porn, gambling, and salacious social media?  

 

Urban Meyer, that cad!   

 

Or, are you talking about an underperforming team?  If so, that pattern should end, I agree.

 

4 minutes ago, buddahj said:

And if you're okay with Meyer's pattern of behavior then there's zero point of any further discussion. 

 

I often find myself discussing things among people with whom I disagree.  ymmv.

[stevegrab]

17 hours ago, League_Champion said:

She shouldn't be worried about her Daughter at all. She'll be on the Gold Club's main stage at 10 tonight. $20 cover with a 2 drink minimum. 

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/jaguars/2021/10/07/urban-meyer-mom-worried-daughter-after-video-jaguars-coach/6041103001/

 

She doesn't seem at all concerned with her daughter's behavior at the bar, just the negative fallout. Maybe one day more people will realize their chance of being recorded doing stupid stuff is pretty high, especially when a famous person is involved and the activity is lewd, involves drug or alcohol. 

[FinishTheDrill]

6 minutes ago, stevegrab said:

 

 their chance of being recorded doing stupid stuff is pretty high

 

Rounded to 2 significant digits its basically 100% 

[squirrelmastr21]

Players don’t care about someone else’s side piece. Most of them have multiple girls. They care about winning. Since they’re losing this is just an opportunity to kick someone while they are down.

[dougsul]

I don't like Myers as he has little if any ethics, really kind of a scumbag. But if some one cheats on their wife should not impact his job unless it directly effects their job.  Companies should not fire you for this type of behavior.  

[Gopher]

21 hours ago, squirrelmastr21 said:

Players don’t care about someone else’s side piece. Most of them have multiple girls. They care about winning. Since they’re losing this is just an opportunity to kick someone while they are down.

 

The players care more about the fact that he didn't fly home with the team than the video of some chick dancing on him.  

[stevegrab]

1 hour ago, dougsul said:

I don't like Myers as he has little if any ethics, really kind of a scumbag. But if some one cheats on their wife should not impact his job unless it directly effects their job.  Companies should not fire you for this type of behavior.  

If you'll cheat on your wife what won't you do?

[League_Champion]

The players do care, especially in a loosing environment. If they were 4-0 it would be a non-issue. 

[Brentastic]

I don't know much about Urban Meyer and I don't condone his actions.  But there is a troubling trend on this earth and certainly in America of holding other people to a standard of perfection.  Holding people "accountable" to all of society for their own personal mistakes.  This troubling trend of having massive judgment on strangers because they're not perfect.  It's a sickness filtered down through indoctrination which started with the media decades ago. There is not one person on this forum or on this planet who is anywhere near perfect. Not even a monk is perfect. We need to stop holding others to a standard of perfection that none of us can even maintain for ourselves. 

 

Some people like to spend their free time getting drunk and socializing in bars.  Some people like to spend their free time getting high on drugs and having casual sex on the reg.  Some people spend their free time masturbating 6 times a day to beastiality porn. Some people are workaholics and rise up the corporate ranks but neglect their children and have affairs outside their committed relationships.  Some people earn a decent wage but are empty inside and mentally abusive to their loved ones.  Some people spend their free time doing nothing and not realizing their full potential.  Some people are seemingly perfect but are sociopaths and use everyone they know for their own personal gain.  Some people give nothing but love except to themselves, and self harm/consider suicide. Some people like to spend their free time watching movie and tv, stifling brain growth and limiting their own creative potential.  Some people have had such poor upbringings they need to resort to crime in order to survive.  

 

I guarantee a large portion of huddlers fall into one or some of those categories (beastiality hyperbole aside) above, maybe not.  My point, start loving your neighbor and giving grace.  Stop the judgment.  Stop holding people to a standard of perfection.  This world is getting more F'd up by the day and you can point fingers all day at politicians, bankers, conservatives, liberals, blacks, whites, rich people, poor people, etc....  But change starts within.  BE the change you want to see.  Holding others to a standard you cannot maintain yourself is detrimental to a healthy society.  We need to UNITE and stop looking at how we can shame and ridcule others for how they don't fit the mold WE think they should.  Urban Meyer probably f'd up his marriage and family.  Maybe not. Maybe he and his wife have an open relationship? I don't know and I don't care.  It's NONE OF OUR BUSINESS. I don't have the hate in my heart to wish he loses his job.  I don't want him to lose his family.  IT'S NONE OF MY BUSINESS.  This need to be involved in each others lives and the outcomes and punishments has hit an absurd level.

 

Bottom Line: Everyone needs to start minding their own business and accept everyone as unique and special individuals born equally under a higher power.  You have no authority over anyone else but yourself.  We each have an equal opportunity to live life to the fullest how we see fit for OURSELVES. Love and accept all of your brothers and sisters without judgment.  Understand you can't possibly know what is best and right for anyone else other than yourself.  You can't possibly know someone else's situation enough to pass judgment, shame and ridicule because their actions and desires don't match yours.  Do these things and we will magically turn this world into the positive loving creation it is.  If not, you can expect this world to get worse and worse at an accelerating rate.  

[FinishTheDrill]

7 hours ago, dougsul said:

I don't like Myers as he has little if any ethics, really kind of a scumbag.

I agree

 

7 hours ago, dougsul said:

But if some one cheats on their wife should not impact his job unless it directly effects their job. 

Meh... I have a habit of not choosing sides between 2 groups of aholes.  I'm not a fan of UMeyer.  That said, I am not so small a person that I play pile-on for something thats a big fat nothing burger and has no bearing on his job performance. 

 

7 hours ago, dougsul said:

 

Companies should not fire you for this type of behavior.  

Companies should fire you for whatever the feel like.  There should be no "should or shouldnt" when it comes to a private company.   

 

 

6 hours ago, Gopher said:

 

The players care more about the fact that he didn't fly home with the team than the video of some chick dancing on him.  

This^^

 

 

[purplemonster]

11 minutes ago, Brentastic said:

 Some people spend their free time masturbating 6 times a day to beastiality porn. 

I feel personally attacked

 

On a serious note I do think people should worry more about themselves than what other people are doing. There is a bit of an online mob mentality that enjoys seeing someone wounded. The exact reasons why I am not sure. Makes them feel more powerful (hey we got him/her fired!), virtue signaling (I am better than this person. See how virtuous I am everybody), or maybe just personal disgust because they find the behavior unacceptable and wouldn't do it themselves. 

 

I am not sure I would call it 'indoctrination' rather that the nature of media especially in an internet age is to go for the clicks and that means controversy sells. Not many readers for articles stating things are going pretty well, that's not interesting. Or maybe we shouldn't be so harsh on someone because there are extenuating factors. That's too boring. So partly we have ourselves to blame because we reward inflammatory headlines over more measured, perhaps realistic ones. 

 

Nevertheless nobody is perfect. But at the end of the day perception matters and image matters, and leaders need to be cognizant of that or they will be answering the same nagging questions about their behavior and causing distractions for everyone. Urban may have been better off just saying hey I made a mistake in sexually charged environment. Leave the grandkids and stuff out of it. Own it, he's not perfect, I am not perfect, nobody is perfect. 

 

 

 

 

[League_Champion]

30 minutes ago, Brentastic said:

Some people spend their free time masturbating 6 times a day to beastiality porn.

 

What losers. I'm only 4 times a day. 

[FinishTheDrill]

17 minutes ago, purplemonster said:

I feel personally attacked

 

On a serious note I do think people should worry more about themselves than what other people are doing. There is a bit of an online mob mentality that enjoys seeing someone wounded. The exact reasons why I am not sure. Makes them feel more powerful (hey we got him/her fired!), virtue signaling (I am better than this person. See how virtuous I am everybody), or maybe just personal disgust because they find the behavior unacceptable and wouldn't do it themselves. 

 

I am not sure I would call it 'indoctrination' rather that the nature of media especially in an internet age is to go for the clicks and that means controversy sells. Not many readers for articles stating things are going pretty well, that's not interesting. Or maybe we shouldn't be so harsh on someone because there are extenuating factors. That's too boring. So partly we have ourselves to blame because we reward inflammatory headlines over more measured, perhaps realistic ones. 

 

Nevertheless nobody is perfect. But at the end of the day perception matters and image matters, and leaders need to be cognizant of that or they will be answering the same nagging questions about their behavior and causing distractions for everyone. Urban may have been better off just saying hey I made a mistake in sexually charged environment. Leave the grandkids and stuff out of it. Own it, he's not perfect, I am not perfect, nobody is perfect. 

 

 

 

 

 

Great post

[irish]

17 hours ago, stevegrab said:

If you'll cheat on your wife what won't you do?

A lot. Just cause someone cheats on their wife or husband doesn't mean they're capable of murder or rape or really any other awful behavior. It could just mean their relationship has broken down. 

[gijoerock]

14 hours ago, Brentastic said:

I don't know much about Urban Meyer and I don't condone his actions.  But there is a troubling trend on this earth and certainly in America of holding other people to a standard of perfection.  Holding people "accountable" to all of society for their own personal mistakes.  This troubling trend of having massive judgment on strangers because they're not perfect.  It's a sickness filtered down through indoctrination which started with the media decades ago. There is not one person on this forum or on this planet who is anywhere near perfect. Not even a monk is perfect. We need to stop holding others to a standard of perfection that none of us can even maintain for ourselves. 

 

Some people like to spend their free time getting drunk and socializing in bars.  Some people like to spend their free time getting high on drugs and having casual sex on the reg.  Some people spend their free time masturbating 6 times a day to beastiality porn. Some people are workaholics and rise up the corporate ranks but neglect their children and have affairs outside their committed relationships.  Some people earn a decent wage but are empty inside and mentally abusive to their loved ones.  Some people spend their free time doing nothing and not realizing their full potential.  Some people are seemingly perfect but are sociopaths and use everyone they know for their own personal gain.  Some people give nothing but love except to themselves, and self harm/consider suicide. Some people like to spend their free time watching movie and tv, stifling brain growth and limiting their own creative potential.  Some people have had such poor upbringings they need to resort to crime in order to survive.  

 

I guarantee a large portion of huddlers fall into one or some of those categories (beastiality hyperbole aside) above, maybe not.  My point, start loving your neighbor and giving grace.  Stop the judgment.  Stop holding people to a standard of perfection.  This world is getting more F'd up by the day and you can point fingers all day at politicians, bankers, conservatives, liberals, blacks, whites, rich people, poor people, etc....  But change starts within.  BE the change you want to see.  Holding others to a standard you cannot maintain yourself is detrimental to a healthy society.  We need to UNITE and stop looking at how we can shame and ridcule others for how they don't fit the mold WE think they should.  Urban Meyer probably f'd up his marriage and family.  Maybe not. Maybe he and his wife have an open relationship? I don't know and I don't care.  It's NONE OF OUR BUSINESS. I don't have the hate in my heart to wish he loses his job.  I don't want him to lose his family.  IT'S NONE OF MY BUSINESS.  This need to be involved in each others lives and the outcomes and punishments has hit an absurd level.

 

Bottom Line: Everyone needs to start minding their own business and accept everyone as unique and special individuals born equally under a higher power.  You have no authority over anyone else but yourself.  We each have an equal opportunity to live life to the fullest how we see fit for OURSELVES. Love and accept all of your brothers and sisters without judgment.  Understand you can't possibly know what is best and right for anyone else other than yourself.  You can't possibly know someone else's situation enough to pass judgment, shame and ridicule because their actions and desires don't match yours.  Do these things and we will magically turn this world into the positive loving creation it is.  If not, you can expect this world to get worse and worse at an accelerating rate.  

You're absolutely right in this post. Thanks for putting it out there.

[stevegrab]

15 hours ago, Brentastic said:

I don't know much about Urban Meyer and I don't condone his actions.  But there is a troubling trend on this earth and certainly in America of holding other people to a standard of perfection.  Holding people "accountable" to all of society for their own personal mistakes.  This troubling trend of having massive judgment on strangers because they're not perfect.  It's a sickness filtered down through indoctrination which started with the media decades ago. There is not one person on this forum or on this planet who is anywhere near perfect. Not even a monk is perfect. We need to stop holding others to a standard of perfection that none of us can even maintain for ourselves. 

 

Some people like to spend their free time getting drunk and socializing in bars.  Some people like to spend their free time getting high on drugs and having casual sex on the reg.  Some people spend their free time masturbating 6 times a day to beastiality porn. Some people are workaholics and rise up the corporate ranks but neglect their children and have affairs outside their committed relationships.  Some people earn a decent wage but are empty inside and mentally abusive to their loved ones.  Some people spend their free time doing nothing and not realizing their full potential.  Some people are seemingly perfect but are sociopaths and use everyone they know for their own personal gain.  Some people give nothing but love except to themselves, and self harm/consider suicide. Some people like to spend their free time watching movie and tv, stifling brain growth and limiting their own creative potential.  Some people have had such poor upbringings they need to resort to crime in order to survive.  

 

I guarantee a large portion of huddlers fall into one or some of those categories (beastiality hyperbole aside) above, maybe not.  My point, start loving your neighbor and giving grace.  Stop the judgment.  Stop holding people to a standard of perfection.  This world is getting more F'd up by the day and you can point fingers all day at politicians, bankers, conservatives, liberals, blacks, whites, rich people, poor people, etc....  But change starts within.  BE the change you want to see.  Holding others to a standard you cannot maintain yourself is detrimental to a healthy society.  We need to UNITE and stop looking at how we can shame and ridcule others for how they don't fit the mold WE think they should.  Urban Meyer probably f'd up his marriage and family.  Maybe not. Maybe he and his wife have an open relationship? I don't know and I don't care.  It's NONE OF OUR BUSINESS. I don't have the hate in my heart to wish he loses his job.  I don't want him to lose his family.  IT'S NONE OF MY BUSINESS.  This need to be involved in each others lives and the outcomes and punishments has hit an absurd level.

 

Bottom Line: Everyone needs to start minding their own business and accept everyone as unique and special individuals born equally under a higher power.  You have no authority over anyone else but yourself.  We each have an equal opportunity to live life to the fullest how we see fit for OURSELVES. Love and accept all of your brothers and sisters without judgment.  Understand you can't possibly know what is best and right for anyone else other than yourself.  You can't possibly know someone else's situation enough to pass judgment, shame and ridicule because their actions and desires don't match yours.  Do these things and we will magically turn this world into the positive loving creation it is.  If not, you can expect this world to get worse and worse at an accelerating rate.  

 

Who is expecting or asking for perfection? 

 

You're right that society is too judgemental and people enjoy tearing other down. But let's not pretend there are no basic standards for behavior in a civilized society. 

 

 

[Finn5033]

The only social media site I use is Snapchat. And the only reason I signed up for that is because I like being able to see what my nieces and nephews are up too. 
 

I’m not an old man, 40 years old, but I think social media is the armpit of this country. It’s toxic and people can’t control themselves. If they shut it all down we’d be way better off. Obviously it won’t happen but a guy can dream.

 

I could care less what Urban Meyer does with his free time. It’s not my business

[Brentastic]

4 minutes ago, Finn5033 said:

The only social media site I use is Snapchat. And the only reason I signed up for that is because I like being able to see what my nieces and nephews are up too. 
 

I’m not an old man, 40 years old, but I think social media is the armpit of this country. It’s toxic and people can’t control themselves. If they shut it all down we’d be way better off. Obviously it won’t happen but a guy can dream.

 

I could care less what Urban Meyer does with his free time. It’s not my business

Social media is not the problem.  Our government and mainstream media are far more culpable.  I'm not saying social media is a good thing, it's just not as harmful to our society as big government and the propaganda machine we call the media.

[Brentastic]

1 hour ago, stevegrab said:

 

Who is expecting or asking for perfection? 

 

You're right that society is too judgemental and people enjoy tearing other down. But let's not pretend there are no basic standards for behavior in a civilized society. 

 

 

Everyone saying he needs to be fired. Everyone piling on about how terrible he is even though nobody on here knows him.  I'm not pretending anything. Tens of millions Americans frequent bars and enjoy the night life.  What basic standard of behavior did he not live up to in your eyes, oh master of everything that is right and wrong in this world?