8rattoon Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 33 minutes ago, millworkguy said: I wonder where he was drinking prior to the accident, they may also have some legal issues arising from this Social media shows him at Top Golf earlier in the evening, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 As it relates to him possibly being drunk and continuing to be served, I wonder how places that half self serve beer stations would handle that. We had a recent social outing from work to a place called Wild Eagle Saloon that had those, you load some card up and then can go to taps and pour your own as you like. Interesting coincidence, our social outing's second option was a Top Golf place that opened recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millworkguy Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Not sure what the laws are there, but legally here, your not allowed to serve drunk people, nor are you allowed to let drunk house guests drive from your property. In terms of a club or bar, they are your responsibility till they are sober and for private residences you share the culpability of their actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millworkguy Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Realistically for his weight and bac you would be looking at 9 drinks in 2 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 and the lady's dog died Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemonster Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, loaf said: and the lady's dog died Assuming she wasn't dead on impact she burned alive in the car, along with the dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Ruggs was traveling 156 miles an hour about 2.5 seconds before impact. His car was at 127 mph when its airbags deployed. Good article https://sports.yahoo.com/police-say-henry-ruggs-iii-was-driving-156-mph-this-wasnt-an-accident-it-was-an-inevitability-174854802.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I'm still trying to wrap my head around driving a car that speed down a suburban street, even at 4AM. 156 MPH is about 230ft or 75yards per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) A bystander, Alexander Hart, was nearby standing as a security guard at a condominium and rushed to help, according to the police report. When he arrived, he said he heard screams coming from the Toyota. Tina Tintor was still alive, Hart told the police but he couldn’t pull her out, because she was pinned inside the SUV. - The Sun Edited November 3, 2021 by League_Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemonster Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, League_Champion said: A bystander, Alexander Hart, was nearby standing as a security guard at a condominium and rushed to help, according to the police report. When he arrived, he said heard screams coming from the Toyota. Tina Tintor was still alive, Hart told the police but he couldn’t pull her out, because she was pinned inside the SUV. - The Sun Man this is turning into a horror movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn5033 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, League_Champion said: A bystander, Alexander Hart, was nearby standing as a security guard at a condominium and rushed to help, according to the police report. When he arrived, he said he heard screams coming from the Toyota. Tina Tintor was still alive, Hart told the police but he couldn’t pull her out, because she was pinned inside the SUV. - The Sun I don’t even have the words to explain how awful that is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 This is getting worse by the minute for Ruggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinishTheDrill Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 7 hours ago, millworkguy said: I vividly remember "1 more for the road" and uncle's (when I wasn't yet a teen) who would pour a beer into their coffee mug and drive home WHILE drinking To be fair, driving while drinking isnt nearly as dangerous as drinking and then driving, provided the drive is short and the drink is minimal. I know that sounds absurd, but think it through. I am neither advocating nor encouraging. That said, having a road soda should be legal imo provided one is well within legal limits. You can drink multiple bevs at a restaurant, wait, let it enter the blood stream and impact you maximally, and THEN drive. So long as you are within legal limit, of course. One drink during a ride may likely not even be fully absorbed into the bloodstream if the ride is short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 39 minutes ago, purplemonster said: Man this is turning into a horror movie. Literally the kind of stuff you don't want to hear as a family member, friend or even just an average person who isn't directly involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinishTheDrill Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 33 minutes ago, League_Champion said: This is getting worse by the minute for Ruggs. Ruggs ought to be shot in the belly and left to rot on the side of the road. 156 in a residential area? Could have been anyones wife or kid burning alive in that car. And he walked away. He deserves far worse than the law will give him, and it'd be poetic justice if Tina's family hunted him down and burned him alive. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, FinishTheDrill said: Ruggs ought to be shot in the belly and left to rot on the side of the road. 156 in a residential area? Could have been anyones wife or kid burning alive in that car. And he walked away. He deserves far worse than the law will give him, and it'd be poetic justice if Tina's family hunted him down and burned him alive. I can't say that I disagree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 38 minutes ago, FinishTheDrill said: Ruggs ought to be shot in the belly and left to rot on the side of the road. 156 in a residential area? Could have been anyones wife or kid burning alive in that car. And he walked away. He deserves far worse than the law will give him, and it'd be poetic justice if Tina's family hunted him down and burned him alive. Just FYI residential area is a very vague term, the report already said he was in the middle of 3 lanes of traffic which to me says it the main drag in suburbia, often 4-6 lane boulevard. From what I saw looking at Google maps street view Rainbow Blvd its at least 2 lanes each way with center turn lane. There are homes, on side streets. Mostly walls of developments on the main road. Very common in large developed areas in the southwest, my brothers in Los Angeles area lived in similar setups, the main road isn't really residential and certainly not a 25MPH speed limit. Far different from a 2 lane street with houses on either side, like where I live, which also has no sidewalks and lots of pedestrian traffic. I don't have kids or pets and frown on people going 30. That said 156 MPH anywhere at idiotic, let alone suburbia no matter how late at night or little traffic there might be. And if you're drunk probably not a good idea to speed at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RILETT Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 The scary thing about drinking and driving is you get away with it 99% of the time. The more you get away with it the easier it is to do. You will eventually get caught always do, it’s just unfortunate that this had to happen and it happens far to frequently we just don’t hear about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 22 minutes ago, League_Champion said: You amaze me Steve Thanks but you don't amaze me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 29 minutes ago, stevegrab said: Thanks but you don't amaze me. They deleted my post, haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 9 hours ago, LordOpie said: I bet he'll need therapy Yet Ruggs probably doesn't remember anything because he was drunk. It's a tragedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxfactor904 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) Being burned alive has to be #1 on my list of worst ways to die. Her family as well as Mr. Hart will be traumatized for life thinking about this. I know someone is innocent until proven guilty but Ruggs should get the max IMO. Edited November 4, 2021 by Jaxfactor904 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 (edited) alright everyone. Get ready to be even more furious after you watch this. OMG, she was calling for help for Ruggs as though he is a victim while the real burned to death in her car. WTF? Can they send her to prison with Ruggs please? I want every NFL player to be forced to sit and watch (Clockwork Orange style) that car engulfed in flames, f-k face Ruggs and his crying biatch over themselves and then the coroner's picturs of the incinerated victim and her dog. I am so angry right now. Furthermore, if any other Raiders, coaches, staff or otherwise were at Top Golf with Ruggs, we are all going to find out. You are screwed as well. Brace yourselves. Edited November 6, 2021 by Dcat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemonster Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Dcat said: Furthermore, if any other Raiders, coaches, staff or otherwise were at Top Golf with Ruggs, we are all going to find out. You are screwed as well. Brace yourselves. I see what you're saying, but this scene is basically what I expected. You are talking about 2 folks who are driving 157 mph on a 45, drunk, with a loaded gun in the car. And now they are concussed and she has some serious arm injury, probably don't even know WTF they are doing. So I am not surprised by this, maybe I should be shocked but I am not. There were a lot of mistakes that gets you to that place, so a few more don't surprise me. And looking at that car, it is well beyond survivability of any occupants, the car was basically melting. This is an all timer, one of the worst any of us will ever see. Just happened to be an NFL player. A not so prescient opinion is that he will be put behind bars for a long, long time. P.S. I agree, it should be shown to all NFL rookies. Not sure how much good it will do, but it will leave an impression for some. As for TopGolf, the videos showing them with glasses littering the table for 2 people...not a great look. They might find themselves on the end of this lawsuit too. Edited November 6, 2021 by purplemonster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Well, I've seen someone get off for worse charges, so we'll wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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