squirrelmastr21 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, purplemonster said: Yeah I clearly don't know what I am talking about. I will have to look at it. I am deleting my post. It’s all good many people will have the same question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelmastr21 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, Big John said: NFLN is saying that the Browns will restructure his contract down to a $1M base contract and change the rest to a signing bonus. This will make him more affordable on waivers. That would be huge which means he’ll definitely get claimed. Let’s look at the waiver order. Detroit Lions Miami Dolphins Houston Texans Jacksonville Jaguars New York Jets New York Giants Washington Football Team Philadelphia Eagles Seattle Seahawks Chicago Bears Atlanta Falcons San Francisco 49ers Minnesota Vikings Indianapolis Colts New England Patriots Denver Broncos Cleveland Browns Kansas City Chiefs Carolina Panthers Los Angeles Chargers Pittsburgh Steelers Cincinnati Bengals New Orleans Saints Tampa Bay Buccaneers Buffalo Bills Las Vegas Raiders Dallas Cowboys Green Bay Packers Baltimore Ravens Los Angeles Rams Tennessee Titans Arizona Cardinals I don’t see any way Beckham would go unclaimed by the Seahawks who are always looking to upgrade or the Falcons who desperate without Ridley. Wildcards are Giants and Eagles IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn5033 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 25 minutes ago, squirrelmastr21 said: That would be huge which means he’ll definitely get claimed. Let’s look at the waiver order. Detroit Lions Miami Dolphins Houston Texans Jacksonville Jaguars New York Jets New York Giants Washington Football Team Philadelphia Eagles Seattle Seahawks Chicago Bears Atlanta Falcons San Francisco 49ers Minnesota Vikings Indianapolis Colts New England Patriots Denver Broncos Cleveland Browns Kansas City Chiefs Carolina Panthers Los Angeles Chargers Pittsburgh Steelers Cincinnati Bengals New Orleans Saints Tampa Bay Buccaneers Buffalo Bills Las Vegas Raiders Dallas Cowboys Green Bay Packers Baltimore Ravens Los Angeles Rams Tennessee Titans Arizona Cardinals I don’t see any way Beckham would go unclaimed by the Seahawks who are always looking to upgrade or the Falcons who desperate without Ridley. Wildcards are Giants and Eagles IMO. Man I really like Atlanta for him. With Ridley in question they could use him and Matty Ice will sling it to him. Then if Ridley comes back if will be really good for the whole offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorttynaz Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 2 hours ago, stevegrab said: And if claimed off waivers, they have to pick up his remaining contract??? Sorry I know I've asked before but you seem to know this stuff and have a grasp. This should help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 3 hours ago, Big John said: NFLN is saying that the Browns will restructure his contract down to a $1M base contract and change the rest to a signing bonus. This will make him more affordable on waivers. Good I hope the Lions, Dolphins or some other bad team signs him. Heck the Giants don't have many healthy WRs maybe he can return the Big Apple and turn it brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Shorttynaz said: This should help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 hour ago, stevegrab said: Good I hope the Lions, Dolphins or some other bad team signs him. Heck the Giants don't have many healthy WRs maybe he can return the Big Apple and turn it brown. Can't he just not sign? What would happen if a team claims him and he flat out refuses to sign? Does he sit out the remainder of the season and become a free agent in 2022? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 He could be headed into Dez Bryant territory 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffraff Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) I can see nearly any of the top 7 pick him off waivers (not the Giants since they sent him to Siberia in the first place): 1. DET 2. MIA 3. HOU 4. JAX 5. NYJ 6. NYG 7. WSH Really hope Detroit takes him. Better pad all walls if he doesn't get to free agency. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18433973/new-york-giants-odell-beckham-jr-punches-hole-wall-bangs-head-door-loss-green-bay-packers Edited November 5, 2021 by Riffraff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripleshot Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Yes, it will be interesting to see where he will end up underperforming at next. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 hour ago, darin3 said: Can't he just not sign? What would happen if a team claims him and he flat out refuses to sign? Does he sit out the remainder of the season and become a free agent in 2022? Lots of details in the article below, specifically as this relates to OBJ's situation, the current waiver order etc. Does not mention what happens if he does not sign. I suspect he can sit out (get paid by the Browns) and then be a free agent. But I'm not certain. The reason the deal was restructured is the Browns hope at a lower cost somebody will claim him on waivers. Which means they don't need to pay him. It also means he is more likely to go non contending team, or better yet a really bad team where he can "enjoy" the rest of the season. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/how-does-the-nfl-waiver-wire-work-for-odell-beckham-jr/ar-AAQmxIm?ocid=uxbndlbing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 hour ago, darin3 said: Can't he just not sign? What would happen if a team claims him and he flat out refuses to sign? Does he sit out the remainder of the season and become a free agent in 2022? He has nothing to sign if he gets picked up on waivers. He can talk contract after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Tomorrow 4PM Eastern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffraff Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Precursor? Lions waived WR Tyrell Williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Contrary to other reports, he won't be waived until Monday, meaning he will be up on Tuesday waivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 I was soooooooo excited when we signed him. Giddy. What a letdown. Like driving for 3 hours to find an open ice cream parlor, finding one, and the only flavor left is broccoli. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 17 hours ago, Big John said: He has nothing to sign if he gets picked up on waivers. He can talk contract after that. By nothing to sign I take it you mean he cannot refuse, once claimed the player is now a member of that team. He could pout and sit, but then he won't get paid. 16 hours ago, LordOpie said: When do waivers close? Announce? 16 hours ago, Big John said: Tomorrow 4PM Eastern. I was hearing yesterday that sometime on Monday the waiver claims are announced, so it was clear when he was released that there was no chance he could sign and play this week. That will give fantasy players a chance to determine what is going on (if claimed) before he next week's roster moves are made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemonster Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) https://news.google.com/articles/CBMimAFodHRwczovL3Byb2Zvb3RiYWxsdGFsay5uYmNzcG9ydHMuY29tLzIwMjEvMTEvMDYvYnJvd25zLWNvbnZlcnRlZC1zaWduaWZpY2FudC1hbW91bnQtb2Ytb2RlbGwtYmVja2hhbXMtcmVtYWluaW5nLXNhbGFyeS10by1hLXJvc3Rlci1ib251cy1kdWUtbmV4dC13ZWVrL9IBnAFodHRwczovL3Byb2Zvb3RiYWxsdGFsay5uYmNzcG9ydHMuY29tLzIwMjEvMTEvMDYvYnJvd25zLWNvbnZlcnRlZC1zaWduaWZpY2FudC1hbW91bnQtb2Ytb2RlbGwtYmVja2hhbXMtcmVtYWluaW5nLXNhbGFyeS10by1hLXJvc3Rlci1ib251cy1kdWUtbmV4dC13ZWVrL2FtcC8?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen "As the source explained it, Beckham took the deal because Cleveland could have converted the balance of his remaining salary to a signing bonus, reducing his base salary to the minimum and making it much more likely that he’d be claimed on waivers by a team for which he’d rather not play. That was, at the end of the day, the leverage the Browns had to get him to agree to a structure that will help the Browns save some money." Why do the Browns need his permission? It sounds like they can unilaterally change his salary to the league minimum and make the rest signing bonus and just release him. That is, they could make it 1 million instead of 3 million, which would save a few million. I assume because it looks bad and impacts signing future players? Edited November 7, 2021 by purplemonster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 3 hours ago, purplemonster said: https://news.google.com/articles/CBMimAFodHRwczovL3Byb2Zvb3RiYWxsdGFsay5uYmNzcG9ydHMuY29tLzIwMjEvMTEvMDYvYnJvd25zLWNvbnZlcnRlZC1zaWduaWZpY2FudC1hbW91bnQtb2Ytb2RlbGwtYmVja2hhbXMtcmVtYWluaW5nLXNhbGFyeS10by1hLXJvc3Rlci1ib251cy1kdWUtbmV4dC13ZWVrL9IBnAFodHRwczovL3Byb2Zvb3RiYWxsdGFsay5uYmNzcG9ydHMuY29tLzIwMjEvMTEvMDYvYnJvd25zLWNvbnZlcnRlZC1zaWduaWZpY2FudC1hbW91bnQtb2Ytb2RlbGwtYmVja2hhbXMtcmVtYWluaW5nLXNhbGFyeS10by1hLXJvc3Rlci1ib251cy1kdWUtbmV4dC13ZWVrL2FtcC8?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen "As the source explained it, Beckham took the deal because Cleveland could have converted the balance of his remaining salary to a signing bonus, reducing his base salary to the minimum and making it much more likely that he’d be claimed on waivers by a team for which he’d rather not play. That was, at the end of the day, the leverage the Browns had to get him to agree to a structure that will help the Browns save some money." Why do the Browns need his permission? It sounds like they can unilaterally change his salary to the league minimum and make the rest signing bonus and just release him. That is, they could make it 1 million instead of 3 million, which would save a few million. I assume because it looks bad and impacts signing future players? I didn't read the article, but not sure why reworking the deal would NOT require him to agree, he is a party to the existing contract, teams cannot just redo a contract and move money from salary to signing bonus as they please. Either way he's no longer a Brown as of Monday, and will be inactive today (presumably sitting at home pouting about how he great he could have been). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijoerock Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 19 minutes ago, stevegrab said: Either way he's no longer a Brown as of Monday, and will be inactive today (presumably sitting at home pouting about how he great he could have been). i hope this comes true. He and his Dad needs to eat humble pie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana is da Man Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Reports say OBJ wants to become a Seahawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 One of Cleveland's sports writer's (Terry Pluto) take on Browns after OBJ https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/11/talkin-to-myself-about-odells-deal-and-the-future-for-browns-terry-pluto.html Just one nugget to wet your appetite "For the season, OBJ has 232 yards receiving on 17 catches. In his last three games, Donovan Peoples-Jones (DPJ) has 257 yards receiving. He’s caught 11 of 14 balls thrown to him." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 30 minutes ago, stevegrab said: Peoples-Jones (DPJ) has 257 yards receiving. He’s caught 11 of 14 balls thrown to him. This kid is going to be a stud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, League_Champion said: This kid is going to be a stud. He went way later in the draft than was predicted, some had him as high as late 3rd round. Most had him 4th. He was drafted 6th round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverines Fan Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Per nbc sports edge, Lions and 49ers are not interested in ODB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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