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4 hours ago, FinishTheDrill said:

 

 

Nah.  Cmon, now.   Injuries and bad luck (and good luck) have always been a part of ff, including playoffs and championships.

 

Things are just a bit magnified now. 

 

I lost guys to injury, illness, mental health, and legal problems, and that's beginning with the very first snap of the season!    Plenty of guys didnt even make the playoffs due to this stuff happening throughout the season.  Cant complain too much if its "your turn" now.   

I agree there has always been an element of luck to win a championship, but to me it stops being fun when the skill element is essentially removed.

 

Probably why I don't enjoy just sitting and playing slots at a Casino and would rather play blackjack.  I like to believe my skill comes into play.  

 

This situation in the last week or two will randomly change the outcome of too many games to make me believe fantasy football is nothing more than a pure game of chance.  Just my opinion.

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Yes there are more injuries and guys out with COVID, but its impact is not universally impacting all fantasy matchups this week. I just looked at the rosters of our 4 teams in action this week and don't see a lot of guys out because of this. 

 

It has always been a lot of luck, as well as skill. But sometimes your skill cannot overcome the bad luck. 

 

As somebody said earlier, plenty of teams have had their regular season killed by injuries, and would be happier having made the playoffs and struggling now. 

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5 hours ago, Judge Smales said:

I agree there has always been an element of luck to win a championship, but to me it stops being fun when the skill element is essentially removed.

 

Probably why I don't enjoy just sitting and playing slots at a Casino and would rather play blackjack.  I like to believe my skill comes into play.  

 

This situation in the last week or two will randomly change the outcome of too many games to make me believe fantasy football is nothing more than a pure game of chance.  Just my opinion.

 

I have been working waivers like a mad man, better than anyone in my league by far, and have been able to turn a crap hand into a fair to middling team.  Other guys had insanely good drafts, and when injuries hit they were lazy on waivers and didnt adjust.  

 

Mind you, I cna only speak for my league and I am only in one league this season.  But in that league, it has forced people to be nimble.  IMO that is a skill well beyond drafting a great team and never having to adjust and its at least 2% not luck.  

 

 

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5 hours ago, LordOpie said:

i think this environment requires more skill. For years, owners could just use ADP to help them draft, but now, FF requires one to know and draft better depth. 

 

not entire due to these covid situations being so random.  we know that barkley, mccaffrey, etc are fragile and come with risk.  we get injuries during the season.  with this, even your depth can he impacted last minute with little recourse. 

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5 hours ago, LordOpie said:

i think this environment requires more skill. For years, owners could just use ADP to help them draft, but now, FF requires one to know and draft better depth.

 

1 minute ago, LordOpie said:

:rolleyes:

and our solutions weren't just "just draft deeper", we have several options. If your league doesn't, then your commish let your league down.

I came up with several ideas, but if your commish needs help, the one to really talk to is @Henry Muto

 

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20 minutes ago, Bier Meister said:

 

that's great, but not as simple as "just draft deeper"

This, there is only so much "depth" left on the waiver wire.  When I am left to choose from one of the MIA running backs not named Gaskin as an option for this week doesn't leave me feeling very good about my chances.

We have adjustments in place to cover this so no one gets a zero over a COVID issue but just saying draft better or draft for more depth doesn't fix all the issues.

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Nationally this is a nightmare when you are playing for anywhere between $100K to $500K which this is the week those championship rounds have begun on most sites.

 

Nationally things are much dire as waivers get closed after the week 14 waivers run on Friday/Saturday/Sunday depending on which contest.

 

With all these games moving like they did today that complicates your trying to field a lineup even more.

 

As example I have Lockett in some leagues I would have known for sure on Sunday morning if he was playing now I have no idea and most of the guys I need to play in his place I have to pick from play on Sunday.  So you will have to play a lesser player with the not knowing kind of like if a guy was questionable with an injury but this just seems much more unfair and unjust.

 

There is a way around it but that only works in leagues we play in because we can make our own rules.

 

Now with 8 teams playing Monday and Tuesday this is going to be super difficult for injured players plus do you risk a guy on Cleveland or Washington getting covid or just play the Sunday guy.

 

I thought last year was rough but this week has taken on a much tougher situation that anything we had last year and that includes moving week 13 to Wednesday which was super tough but that was just 2 teams.

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Also with waivers locked I am sure at some point I won't have a starting position throughout this mess.  No QB or no TE which stinks.  We carry 20 players but normally you roll with 2 QBs and 2 TEs but I have some teams with 3 QBs or 3 TEs but last week I had a league where it is 26 players and I had 9 RBs but I had only 2 available of the 9 and they were not pretty named they were Booker and Perine and I had to start them.

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2 hours ago, Bier Meister said:

 

not entire due to these covid situations being so random.  we know that barkley, mccaffrey, etc are fragile and come with risk.  we get injuries during the season.  with this, even your depth can he impacted last minute with little recourse. 

 

Waivers.  Stash positions that are more important than others.  There's definitely recourse, things you can plan for.  It means being more nimble and less adherent to only running the top names.

 

i am also not saying it isnt luck (good and bad) just that the comments that its all a crap shoot are not accurate.  If there is skill in volved in picking draft order, if there is skill involved in predicting matchups for your lineup, then another skill is in recovering from an "O", be it last minute or not. 

 

Its at least 2% skill, if not 2.1%

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10 minutes ago, FinishTheDrill said:

 

Waivers.  Stash positions that are more important than others.  There's definitely recourse, things you can plan for.  It means being more nimble and less adherent to only running the top names.

 

i am also not saying it isnt luck (good and bad) just that the comments that its all a crap shoot are not accurate.  If there is skill in volved in picking draft order, if there is skill involved in predicting matchups for your lineup, then another skill is in recovering from an "O", be it last minute or not. 

 

Its at least 2% skill, if not 2.1%

 

been playing for 30 years.  thanks though.  read henry's post above.

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On 12/16/2021 at 4:00 PM, Finn5033 said:

To your point I’m probably going to play Mike Williams tonight over Aiyuk simply because it’s kind of a toss up already and who knows what will happen the rest of the week. I feel safer to just play Williams cause he’s available.

 

same thing here.  And he disappointed. 

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Just now, Bier Meister said:

 

been playing for 30 years.  thanks though.  read henry's post above.

 

Yeah, I just did.  The locked lineups is a problem I dont have, so I didnt consider it before.  

 

As far as playing for 30 years, thats great.  I dont think it changes anything in my comments.  The locked lineups though, yes.  Definitely.   Then this is all a kick in the nuts.

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, FinishTheDrill said:

 

Yeah, I just did.  The locked lineups is a problem I dont have, so I didnt consider it before.  

 

As far as playing for 30 years, thats great.  I dont think it changes anything in my comments.  The locked lineups though, yes.  Definitely.   Then this is all a kick in the nuts.

 

 

 

i play in 2 dynasties, 1 keeper, and 2 redraft for FFPC.

 

I am very good about grabbing my ww/fa targets a week or two early.  I am pretty nimble, but there is extreme scarcity at certain positions regardless of depth in dynasties...especially when games are moved on a friday the week of playoffs.

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2 minutes ago, Bier Meister said:

i play in 2 dynasties, 1 keeper, and 2 redraft for FFPC.

 

I am very good about grabbing my ww/fa targets a week or two early.  I am pretty nimble, but there is extreme scarcity at certain positions regardless of depth in dynasties...especially when games are moved on a friday the week of playoffs.

 

So its difficult.   

 

Same for every other player in the league though.

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Just now, FinishTheDrill said:

 

So its difficult.   

 

Same for every other player in the league though.

 

not necessarily.  the randomness of covid's impact does not equally distribute the  disadvantages across the board.  

 

ie: those that have the chargers and chiefs premier players are not facing the same challenges as owners of players for clev, rams, sea, phil, wft, lvr.

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9 minutes ago, Bier Meister said:

 

not necessarily.  the randomness of covid's impact does not equally distribute the  disadvantages across the board.  

 

 

 

So, like getting a 7 or 8 draft position and having 3 of your top 6 picks not pan out, and then a few injuries.  

 

There's no guarantees.    Its FF.   

 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, FinishTheDrill said:

 

 

So, like getting a 7 or 8 draft position and having 3 of your top 6 picks not pan out, and then a few injuries.  

 

There's no guarantees.    Its FF.   

 

 

 

 

that's not it at all.  we potentially have games cancelled for healthy players

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