League_Champion Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 https://heavy.com/sports/cleveland-browns/baker-mayfield-ultimatum-trade-demand/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 Imagine, he's giving them an ultimatum. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Garbage report based on some "source".  Mary Kay Cabot is the soap opera queen of Cleveland sports.  But of course snooki is into that stuff, and anything to throw some manure at Mayfield.  You have a very unhealthy obsession with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 Steve, for you and your Boy Toy. Â Â 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 "Clickbait"  Baker Mayfield on Twitter: "Clickbait. You and many other Cleveland local media continue to be drama stirring reporters with no sources or facts. Don’t put words in my mouth so you can put food on your table. I’m not your puppet." / Twitter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Big John said: "Clickbait"  Baker Mayfield on Twitter: "Clickbait. You and many other Cleveland local media continue to be drama stirring reporters with no sources or facts. Don’t put words in my mouth so you can put food on your table. I’m not your puppet." / Twitter  Yep it was all over the news here yesterday. But since some person wrote an article, based on the info in some other article, from some anonymous source "Baker is demanding a trade" is the headline for fools like Snooki to eat up and spread to others.  Here's something to consider, Baker has played really bad recently, the injuries are definitely affecting him. Why wasn't he rested at some point, given a chance to heal and get better. We have a more than capable backup who could have played. This is what a real sports writer (Pluto has won many awards) say, and what real Browns fans are talking about. Not some fake drama about demanding a trade. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2022/01/the-strange-season-for-case-keenum-and-how-it-could-have-been-different-terry-pluto.html Edited January 7, 2022 by stevegrab 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 In this offense Baker is really not that good.  Stefanski needs to take all the blame here. You have a great running game with a good offensive line. And he basically ignores it all season to have a banged up Baker throw it 40 times a game. That running game with that defense should be good for 10 wins.  THAT guy should be fired. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinishTheDrill Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 31 minutes ago, stevegrab said:  Yep it was all over the news here yesterday. But since some person wrote an article, based on the info in some other article, from some anonymous source "Baker is demanding a trade" is the headline for fools like Snooki to eat up and spread to others.   So you are saying that planting a source to make a bs unsubstantiated claim, having someone else report on that something, so that an investigation into the report can ensue is a duplicitous way to go about things?   Curious, that.   I'd be inclined to agree with you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinishTheDrill Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chief Dick said: In this offense Baker is really not that good.  Stefanski needs to take all the blame here. You have a great running game with a good offensive line. And he basically ignores it all season to have a banged up Baker throw it 40 times a game. That running game with that defense should be good for 10 wins.  THAT guy should be fired.  Agree 99.999%   (leaving room for ... I dont know what) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022  26 minutes ago, Chief Dick said: In this offense Baker is really not that good.  Stefanski needs to take all the blame here. You have a great running game with a good offensive line. And he basically ignores it all season to have a banged up Baker throw it 40 times a game. That running game with that defense should be good for 10 wins.  THAT guy should be fired.  How many times did Baker attempt 40 passes in a game this season? ZERO, he threw it 35 times or more just 3 times. He averaged just under 30 passes per game this season(418 in 14), just a bit less than his average pass per game last year (486 in 16).  I agree they threw the ball too much at times, but we can discuss that without hyperbole and making it sound like they're doing something that different than last year when they were very successful with this offense.  Our OL is good but both tackles missed time (4 games for LT Wills, 9 by RT Conklin including 7 of the last 8 when we've gone 3-5). Hunt and Chubb also missed time, Hunt has played in just 2 of the last 10 games and Chubb missed 3, both were out for 2. The two have played together in just 7 games (weeks 1-5, 12, 14 the Browns are 4-3 in those games). I won't even go into the numerous games missed by the WR/TE on the team, or the distraction that was OBJ.  PS Stefanski will not be and should not be fired. He is a good coach. The Browns have been the revolving door of head coaches, firing this one and starting over again is not a solution. Fire your own damn coach if you like, leave ours alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 How about he SUCKS and the Brown leaked it to further the process of getting his ass out of town. Is that possible? They see what he is, they don't want him there. They are ready to win now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, stevegrab said:    Here's something to consider, Baker has played really bad recently, the injuries are definitely affecting him. Why wasn't he rested at some point, given a chance to heal and get better. We have a more than capable backup who could have played. This is what a real sports writer (Pluto has won many awards) say, and what real Browns fans are talking about. Not some fake drama about demanding a trade. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2022/01/the-strange-season-for-case-keenum-and-how-it-could-have-been-different-terry-pluto.html  1 hour ago, Chief Dick said: In this offense Baker is really not that good.  Stefanski needs to take all the blame here. You have a great running game with a good offensive line. And he basically ignores it all season to have a banged up Baker throw it 40 times a game. That running game with that defense should be good for 10 wins.  THAT guy should be fired.  I think it is a combo if these issues.  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 All the hype going into the year. All the tools.  I would say when it's all said and done, the Vikings, Browns, and Ravens end up being the most underachieving teams this year.   In all 3 cases, their HC's are a major part of the problem.   1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, gilthorp said: All the hype going into the year. All the tools.  I would say when it's all said and done, the Vikings, Browns, and Ravens end up being the most underachieving teams this year.   In all 3 cases, their HC's are a major part of the problem.    To me the Ravens get a pass here. Nobody could survive that many injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 56 minutes ago, stevegrab said:   How many times did Baker attempt 40 passes in a game this season? ZERO, he threw it 35 times or more just 3 times. He averaged just under 30 passes per game this season(418 in 14), just a bit less than his average pass per game last year (486 in 16).  I agree they threw the ball too much at times, but we can discuss that without hyperbole and making it sound like they're doing something that different than last year when they were very successful with this offense.  Our OL is good but both tackles missed time (4 games for LT Wills, 9 by RT Conklin including 7 of the last 8 when we've gone 3-5). Hunt and Chubb also missed time, Hunt has played in just 2 of the last 10 games and Chubb missed 3, both were out for 2. The two have played together in just 7 games (weeks 1-5, 12, 14 the Browns are 4-3 in those games). I won't even go into the numerous games missed by the WR/TE on the team, or the distraction that was OBJ.  PS Stefanski will not be and should not be fired. He is a good coach. The Browns have been the revolving door of head coaches, firing this one and starting over again is not a solution. Fire your own damn coach if you like, leave ours alone.  well, in that case Baker does suck. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 Stefanski isn't going anywhere  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 If they went strictly by the numbers, they’d certainly conclude that Mayfield isn’t the quarterback to win Super Bowls. He’s 27th with an 83.1 QB rating, having completed just 60.5 percent of his attempts for 28th in the NFL, 17 touchdowns and 13 interceptions.   His stats in clutch situations are worse: He’s 35th in fourth-quarter passing with a 50.9 completion percentage and 64.5 rating, and 30th in third-down passing with a 50% completion percentage, three touchdowns, six interceptions and a 52.5 rating. He’s 0-5 this season in potential gamewinning drives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, stevegrab said:  Yep it was all over the news here yesterday. But since some person wrote an article, based on the info in some other article, from some anonymous source "Baker is demanding a trade" is the headline for fools like Snooki to eat up and spread to others.  Here's something to consider, Baker has played really bad recently, the injuries are definitely affecting him. Why wasn't he rested at some point, given a chance to heal and get better. We have a more than capable backup who could have played. This is what a real sports writer (Pluto has won many awards) say, and what real Browns fans are talking about. Not some fake drama about demanding a trade. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2022/01/the-strange-season-for-case-keenum-and-how-it-could-have-been-different-terry-pluto.html  He has basically been playing on a damaged shoulder for a while now and it has diminished velocity. I don't understand the organization not doing what was best for long-term with him. Unless they are desperately and illogically in some sort of fantastical win-now mode or something. That can happen when a coaching staff is on the cusp of being replaced. I'm no Baker fan, but it's patently obvious he has been playing with a bum-arm lately. Edited January 7, 2022 by Dcat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Dcat said:  He has basically been playing on a damaged shoulder for a while now and it has diminished velocity. I don't understand the organization not doing what was best for log-term with him. Unless they are desperately and illogically in some sort of fantastical win-now mode or something. That can happen when a coaching staff is on the cusp of being replaced.  this. he is no superstar, but definitely impacted by his injury this year.  edit: I mean, this is a run first team. he also lost hunt, chubb, landry, obj, and misc tes this season... and had nasty covid issues.  Edited January 7, 2022 by Bier Meister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Wouldn't mind seeing what he could do in New Orleans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 So what would you do with him? Is he worth a big contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 minute ago, rajncajn said: Wouldn't mind seeing what he could do in New Orleans.  Would be an improvement, but I think you guys need thomas back and a some additional wr help. Kamara/ingram would be very good for him  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 30 minutes ago, League_Champion said: So what would you do with him? Is he worth a big contract?  I don't think there is any way you give him a big contract. Have him play on his rookie deal one more year and see if a healthy team can make that next step. That's about all they can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Chief Dick said:  I don't think there is any way you give him a big contract. Have him play on his rookie deal one more year and see if a healthy team can make that next step. That's about all they can do.  yes...make it incentive-based 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 34 minutes ago, rajncajn said: Wouldn't mind seeing what he could do in New Orleans. It would be interesting to see what he can do in that offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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