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Baker Mayfield Gives Browns Ultimatum on Trade Demand

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34 minutes ago, rajncajn said:

Wouldn't mind seeing what he could do in New Orleans.

It would be interesting to see what he can do in that offense.

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48 minutes ago, Dcat said:

 

He has basically been playing on a damaged shoulder for a while now and it has diminished velocity.  I don't understand the organization not doing what was best for long-term with him.  Unless they are desperately and illogically in some sort of fantastical  win-now mode or something.  That can happen when a coaching staff is on the cusp of being replaced.  I'm no Baker fan, but it's patently obvious he has been playing with a bum-arm lately.

 

I was saying to people back when we faced the Lions, give him that week off, maybe 2. They faced the Ravens after the Lions, then a bye then the Ravens again. Terry Pluto (sports write who wrote the article I linked in that post) wasn't the only one calling for the Browns to rest him. Just because he was the starter and cleared to play, doesn't mean he should continue playing hurt. Especially with a quality backup in Keenum. Not sure why they continued playing him, who all was involved in the decision and if some (Baker, Stefanski, front office, owner) pushed for him to continue playing.

 

As for all of you who want Baker to see what he can do for your team, you're going to have to wait. I think he's back with the Browns for 2022, there are no plans to trade him and honestly we'd get a very low return. As 2022 goes on they'll see what they do, franchise tag, long term deal, move on etc. 

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so at least two teams (DEN and NOS) would be happy to have him?

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1 minute ago, LordOpie said:

so at least two teams (DEN and NOS) would be happy to have him?

 

Not possible, he sucks and is at best a career backup, snooki says so, and he is never wrong. 

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1 minute ago, LordOpie said:

so at least two teams (DEN and NOS) would be happy to have him?

 

Happy to have him?? I don't think any team would be "happy" to have him. I would call it settling. 

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1 hour ago, Dcat said:

 

He has basically been playing on a damaged shoulder for a while now and it has diminished velocity.  I don't understand the organization not doing what was best for long-term with him.  Unless they are desperately and illogically in some sort of fantastical  win-now mode or something.  That can happen when a coaching staff is on the cusp of being replaced.  I'm no Baker fan, but it's patently obvious he has been playing with a bum-arm lately.

It is his nonthrowing shoulder though isn't it? Im sure it can still screw up mechanics but my understanding is it is not the throwing shoulder

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Hey Stevo, does this look like a winner to you??

 

His stats in clutch situations are worse: He’s 35th in fourth-quarter passing with a 50.9 completion percentage and 64.5 rating, and 30th in third-down passing with a 50% completion percentage, three touchdowns, six interceptions and a 52.5 rating. He’s 0-5 this season in potential gamewinning drives.

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21 minutes ago, purplemonster said:

It is his nonthrowing shoulder though isn't it? Im sure it can still screw up mechanics but my understanding is it is not the throwing shoulder

 

Correct, it is the non-throwing shoulder, but he wears a harness to keep that from moving too much, and it limits his range of motion and messes up the mechanics. 

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2 minutes ago, stevegrab said:

 

Correct, it is the non-throwing shoulder, but he wears a harness to keep that from moving too much, and it limits his range of motion and messes up the mechanics. 

 

Always excuses with this guy 

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1 hour ago, League_Champion said:

 

Happy to have him?? I don't think any team would be "happy" to have him. I would call it settling. 

i think he's much better than bridgewater or Lock.

I'd rather have rodgers, wilson or watson, but who is realistically available next year? Rookies, andy dalton?

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1 minute ago, LordOpie said:

i think he's much better than bridgewater or Lock.

I'd rather have rodgers, wilson or watson, but who is realistically available next year? Rookies, andy dalton?

Cousins! Let's make a deal 

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2 minutes ago, purplemonster said:

Cousins! Let's make a deal 

 

Cousins quietly put up a nice season though. His stats are pretty dam good. 

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8 minutes ago, purplemonster said:

Cousins! Let's make a deal 

sure. I'd take him.

You can have Bridgewater back.

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24 minutes ago, League_Champion said:

 

Cousins quietly put up a nice season though. His stats are pretty dam good. 

 

18 minutes ago, LordOpie said:

sure. I'd take him.

You can have Bridgewater back.

Oh I dont think he's bad, in fact he can be pretty damn good if he has protection. It's all the other times I am worried about. Nevertheless maybe a change of scenery would be good for everybody. Broncos D at least is legit. Vikes are kind of shaky everywhere we aren't winning anything soon.

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local radio is saying they'd trade a 2nd and 3rd to CLE for Mayfield. 

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15 minutes ago, LordOpie said:

local radio is saying they'd trade a 2nd and 3rd to CLE for Mayfield. 

 

Why? And then have to sign him to a new long term deal? Way too risky for an average QB in my opinion. 

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21 minutes ago, LordOpie said:

local radio is saying they'd trade a 2nd and 3rd to CLE for Mayfield. 

 

How much weed do those guys smoke on the air?

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37 minutes ago, LordOpie said:

local radio is saying they'd trade a 2nd and 3rd to CLE for Mayfield. 

Wow!

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5 hours ago, stevegrab said:

 

Yep it was all over the news here yesterday. But since some person wrote an article, based on the info in some other article, from some anonymous source "Baker is demanding a trade" is the headline for fools like Snooki to eat up and spread to others. 

 

Here's something to consider, Baker has played really bad recently, the injuries are definitely affecting him. Why wasn't he rested at some point, given a chance to heal and get better. We have a more than capable backup who could have played. This is what a real sports writer (Pluto has won many awards) say, and what real Browns fans are talking about. Not some fake drama about demanding a trade. 

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2022/01/the-strange-season-for-case-keenum-and-how-it-could-have-been-different-terry-pluto.html


Baker really sucked this year so it was surprising to me that they didn’t play Keenum more. It was obvious the shoulder was bothering Baker. His mechanics were off most of the year.

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18 minutes ago, Shaft said:

Wow!

wow!

?

too much or too little?

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24 minutes ago, LordOpie said:

wow!

?

too much or too little?

Yeah I'm not sure either. That sounds about right to me. Maybe a second. I'm not giving up a 1st for him.  

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22 minutes ago, LordOpie said:

wow!

?

too much or too little?

It was a knee jerk reaction of too much, but after looking at other trades these picks seem pretty fair and maybe a bargain. The Panthers got Darnold for a 2021 6th round pick and 2nd and 4th round picks in 2022. Matthew Stafford cost 2021 3rd round pick, 2022 1st round pick, and 2023 1st round. Carson Wentz cost a 2022 conditional 2nd round pick and 2021 3rd round pick. Baker is only 26 and has shown some signs of maturity, so it's a fair offer.

 

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31 minutes ago, LordOpie said:

wow!

?

too much or too little?

 

The bigger question would be his contract situation. What does he want, top 10 money? If so hell no! 

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