Bobby Brown 950 Posted January 22 Does anyone want to admit to tattle telling to the board moderaters which resulted in the gun thread getting locked? The limited options seem rather obvious. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League_Champion 2,815 Posted January 22 There seems to be a lot of that going around lately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1fastdoc 187 Posted January 22 Is it any surprise? I hadn't seen it until now but it quickly devolved into a pissing match full of insults and personal attacks. There were a lot of stats thrown in there and if there's one thing this debate has proven time and again, it's that stats are easily skewed. I just had my Sig 938 stolen out of my truck last month. Over 50 guns were stolen in Nashville in December. Last weekend there were 52 car break ins at the Loews Vanderbilt hotel alone over 3 days! My guess is a lot of stolen guns are headed out of state, probably to Chicago. To give my answer to the original question in the other thread, anyone that discharges a firearm in a city or town without knowing exactly where that bullet is going is an irresponsible chalupa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League_Champion 2,815 Posted January 22 41 minutes ago, 1fastdoc said: I just had my Sig 938 stolen out of my truck last month. Over 50 guns were stolen in Nashville in December. Last weekend there were 52 car break ins at the Loews Vanderbilt hotel alone over 3 days! My guess is a lot of stolen guns are headed out of state, probably to Chicago. That's a problem everywhere. Most of the time they break into cars looking for guns only, they'll jiggle handles, if it's unlocked they'll go through the car/truck. In most cases nothing is taken, it's cash or guns they want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordOpie 2,818 Posted January 22 23 minutes ago, 1fastdoc said: anyone that discharges a firearm in a city or town without knowing exactly where that bullet is going is an irresponsible chalupa. You do know these guys will suggest this... 24 minutes ago, 1fastdoc said: I just had my Sig 938 stolen out of my truck last month Was more irresponsible? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rajncajn 1,339 Posted January 22 12 hours ago, Bobby Brown said: Does anyone want to admit to tattle telling to the board moderaters which resulted in the gun thread getting locked? The limited options seem rather obvious. Same reason the Tailgate started its slide before and some of the same people involved. No surprise at all to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevegrab 1,430 Posted January 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, LordOpie said: You do know these guys will suggest this... Was more irresponsible? Are you trying to get another thread locked? Or just spread your lies and make others look bad who have said no such thing. And now I see our resident snowflake LC felt threatened by my statement. Really tough guy with all guns is afraid of me? PS I have never run to a moderator here to complain about others. Edited January 22 by stevegrab Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League_Champion 2,815 Posted January 22 You can't be leaving guns in your vehicle. That's about as irresponsible as it gets. Especially if you have a permit to carry, otherwise lock it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordOpie 2,818 Posted January 22 Just now, League_Champion said: You can't be leaving guns in your vehicle. That's about as irresponsible as it gets. Especially if you have a permit to carry, otherwise lock it up. And if the anti-gun people don't agree with you then they're hypocrites Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League_Champion 2,815 Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, LordOpie said: And if the anti-gun people don't agree with you then they're hypocrites I don't see it as pro or anti-gun, it's more common sense to me. Be responsible 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bobby Brown 950 Posted January 22 10 minutes ago, stevegrab said: PS I have never run to a moderator here to complain about others. I think we all know who the weasely little narc is....... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevegrab 1,430 Posted January 22 16 minutes ago, League_Champion said: You can't be leaving guns in your vehicle. That's about as irresponsible as it gets. Especially if you have a permit to carry, otherwise lock it up. 15 minutes ago, LordOpie said: And if the anti-gun people don't agree with you then they're hypocrites 11 minutes ago, League_Champion said: I don't see it as pro or anti-gun, it's more common sense to me. Be responsible Mind blown.... So if you have a permit to carry, and want to carry, and go somewhere where guns are not allowed (say a court building where you need to pass thru a metal detector and face consequences if you carrying), what does the gun owner do? Not advocating leaving a gun in the car, just wondering how people who feel they need to always be armed deal with this. PS I am not anti-gun, just not a gun owner, or a gun nut (not all owners are nuts, but there are nuts, even some gun owners here have pointed that out, when we were having a sensible discussion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League_Champion 2,815 Posted January 22 1 minute ago, stevegrab said: Mind blown.... So if you have a permit to carry, and want to carry, and go somewhere where guns are not allowed (say a court building where you need to pass thru a metal detector and face consequences if you carrying), what does the gun owner do? I don't recall saying any of that! Where do you come up with this crap?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordOpie 2,818 Posted January 22 2 hours ago, 1fastdoc said: I just had my Sig 938 stolen out of my truck last month How many times is your gun locked? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rajncajn 1,339 Posted January 23 8 hours ago, stevegrab said: Mind blown.... So if you have a permit to carry, and want to carry, and go somewhere where guns are not allowed (say a court building where you need to pass thru a metal detector and face consequences if you carrying), what does the gun owner do? Not advocating leaving a gun in the car, just wondering how people who feel they need to always be armed deal with this. PS I am not anti-gun, just not a gun owner, or a gun nut (not all owners are nuts, but there are nuts, even some gun owners here have pointed that out, when we were having a sensible discussion. If you know you're going some place that doesn't allow guns, like a courthouse or a school, then you don't bring your gun. Common sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League_Champion 2,815 Posted January 23 10 minutes ago, rajncajn said: If you know you're going some place that doesn't allow guns, like a courthouse or a school, then you don't bring your gun. Common sense Steve isn't the brightest bulb in the lamp 💡 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevegrab 1,430 Posted January 23 15 hours ago, rajncajn said: If you know you're going some place that doesn't allow guns, like a courthouse or a school, then you don't bring your gun. Common sense. 15 hours ago, League_Champion said: Steve isn't the brightest bulb in the lamp 💡 I'm not the one who left my gun in my vehicle and had it stolen. That is why I asked, because yes to me common sense says don't leave guns in your car, especially if there is a rash of thefts of guns from vehicles in the area you park. But hey there's LC hurling insults as usual. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1fastdoc 187 Posted January 23 23 hours ago, League_Champion said: You can't be leaving guns in your vehicle. That's about as irresponsible as it gets. Especially if you have a permit to carry, otherwise lock it up. I'll address this once but I don't intend to get into an argument over it. The gun was hidden beneath other tools in a locked center console in a truck with tinted glass, on my property, which is at the end of a private drive with motion lights and no through traffic. The truck is easily visible from the street and all angles. The mall is on the same street and had over a dozen vehicle break ins earlier that evening. The job was obviously professional - the glass was neatly removed and placed beside the truck, the center console and glove box were popped. Only the gun was taken; the radar detector, buds, tools, electronics and all the personal belongings in the back were untouched. Zero fingerprints. I work in a hospital at one of the more dangrous parts of Nashville. Violent crime is 3.5x higher than the national average in that zip code.. As I'm sure you're aware, most hospitals do not allow weapons inside. Regardless, many doctors and staff carry but I wear scrubs and it's impossible. For a while I left it at home but with Covid, increased poverty and increased crime, I started carrying again. The lot where I park is well visualized and monitored. I was in the military. I shoot competitively. And unlike most who carry, I've had to remove it from the holster twice, once in close quarters where it led to the other party fleeing before the cop could arrive. So for those of us who commute through rough areas but can't have a gun at work, it creates a bit of a dilemma. Now, I could have removed it from the console at home but the likelihood of anyone coming onto my property for that purpose is very low. And the neighborhood crime rate is exceptionally low. However, these guys were fast and good at what they do. I'll admit I didn't even feel violated - it wasn't personal and they did no damage other than what was needed. I'm honestly glad I didn't hear them, a confrontation would have made my life a lot more difficult than just an insurance claim. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordOpie 2,818 Posted January 23 10 minutes ago, 1fastdoc said: The gun was hidden beneath other tools in a locked center console Technically, that's more than sufficient. It was " triple" locked... Locked car Locked console Hidden I'd you had a car alarm, then that's an additional layer. You did nothing wrong. Sorry some dirty piece of manure violated your car Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1fastdoc 187 Posted January 23 13 minutes ago, stevegrab said: I'm not the one who left my gun in my vehicle and had it stolen. That is why I asked, because yes to me common sense says don't leave guns in your car, especially if there is a rash of thefts of guns from vehicles in the area you park. Up until that night, there was no history of break ins in my area. It's actually one of the safest areas in Nashville and known for bs speeding tickets because the cops don't have anything else to do. These weren't routine thieves after pawnable items and there was only one other residential hit reported. I think they saw an opportunity en route to their planned hit and came back for it. I don't think they realized the risk - high cop concentration, every house has dogs, and a higher than averate risk of running into an armed homeowner. They weren't local. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League_Champion 2,815 Posted January 23 12 minutes ago, 1fastdoc said: I was in the military. I shoot competitively. And unlike most who carry, I've had to remove it from the holster twice, once in close quarters where it led to the other party fleeing before the cop could arrive. So for those of us who commute through rough areas but can't have a gun at work, it creates a bit of a dilemma. Now, I could have removed it from the console at home but the likelihood of anyone coming onto my property for that purpose is very low. And the neighborhood crime rate is exceptionally low. However, these guys were fast and good at what they do. I'll admit I didn't even feel violated - it wasn't personal and they did no damage other than what was needed. I'm honestly glad I didn't hear them, a confrontation would have made my life a lot more difficult than just an insurance claim. I hear ya, it was my job for 8 years to carry and I still do today. That's a tough situation, I have a Biometric gun safe in my truck shall I need to lock it up and I've never had an issue. It sounds like in your case you may want to carry less lethal to avoid this in the future. There's a good chance that your stolen gun has been used for some pretty bad stuff, possibly murder. It's a huge responsibility when you decide to carry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bobby Brown 950 Posted January 23 On 1/21/2022 at 9:14 PM, Bobby Brown said: Does anyone want to admit to tattle telling to the board moderaters which resulted in the gun thread getting locked? The limited options seem rather obvious. Crickets. Tattle tale boy is also a coward. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordOpie 2,818 Posted January 23 Fast doc and LC, THANK YOU BOTH for your service! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League_Champion 2,815 Posted January 23 12 minutes ago, LordOpie said: Fast doc and LC, THANK YOU BOTH for your service! Thank you Sir 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordOpie 2,818 Posted January 24 2 hours ago, League_Champion said: Thank you Sir Want to share your professional experience? If not,no worries. I know first responders, LEOs, military don't always want to dig into the past I have friends who worked on an ambulance who became drug addicts because it's such a difficult job Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
