Menudo Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 I can be honest now. No doubt about it, Ben's season went downhill as the season went on. Also, he did not perform well during the pressure of the playoffs. All of that said, wow. What a year this guy has shown. When you draft a rookie QB, first, I had hoped he wouldn't see a down this year. However, if a rookie QB plays, you hope to just see a glimpse of success from him. You actually expect to struggle as a team, trust me, no matter what they say, the Steelers thought they were in trouble when Ben was forced into the starting role. People try to take away what this kid did this year, due to the fact he played for a solid team. However, if you actually watched the games, you would see what I saw: A young kid playing QB who has some phenomenal natural insticsts. As he grows, he is going to get better and better and I have no doubt that this kid has Super Bowl champion and Hall of fame potential. What makes me the most confident in him is his poise and composure on, and especially off the field. He is a grounded kid (who should be playing his Sr. year at Miami (OH) righ now), who will do everything it takes to improve. Thanks to Ben, thanks to the Steelers. I hope Bettis stays around again. He is the guy I feel worst for. He is a class act and he proved me wrong worse than anyone I can ever remember. I thought he was done, but he obviously was not. Anyway, one last time.... HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO !!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarina Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 If he can grow from this, he'll be just fine. How many rookie QBs have this kind of season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 I can be honest now. No doubt about it, Ben's season went downhill as the season went on. Also, he did not perform well during the pressure of the playoffs. 668765[/snapback] I think it's less pressure than facing talented and well-coached defenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarina Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 It had to get tougher for Ben, once other teams had film to study on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeegiebo Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 No doubt Ben exceeded everyone's expectations. Doesn't make me feel any better about his first loss. I certainly hope the Bus will return next year. No way weould we have gone as far as we did this year without him. We will need him again next year, likely in the role he was supposed to play this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 No doubt Ben exceeded everyone's expectations. Doesn't make me feel any better about his first loss. I certainly hope the Bus will return next year. No way weould we have gone as far as we did this year without him. We will need him again next year, likely in the role he was supposed to play this year. 668791[/snapback] The Steelers have many classy players, and Ben and Jerome are two of them. I hope they both remain so in the aftermath. I like what Ben brings to the table. I think he will be fine, as long as he doesn't allow this game to haunt him. I also hope Jerome returns. He is really the face of the Steelers, and they need it to keep Cowher's mug out of the camera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Pitt is in great shape because hes got the goods.Its just that he finally played like a rookie at a very unfortunate time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Ben didn't play that well... but the Steelers D did give up 34 freakin' points.... lets not blame him entirely OK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Ben didn't play that well... but the Steelers D did give up 34 freakin' points.... lets not blame him entirely OK? 668809[/snapback] From how many turnovers? Not the defense's fault, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeegiebo Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Ben didn't play that well... but the Steelers D did give up 34 freakin' points.... lets not blame him entirely OK? 668809[/snapback] He threw 3 INTs. Didn't exactly help the D out. It's not entirely his fault, you're right. But he didn't exactly get the job done either, did he. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrograde assault Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 It sucks to lose the late round playoff games but if you can keep putting your teams in them like Cowher does, your probably going to have things fall your way sooner or later. And if not, its still better to be in the hunt year after year than be a losing team imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 If he can grow from this, he'll be just fine. How many rookie QBs have this kind of season? 668769[/snapback] Didnt Marino have similar success never to win the Big 1, on ly to get to it once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menudo Posted January 24, 2005 Author Share Posted January 24, 2005 Didnt Marino have similar success never to win the Big 1, on ly to get to it once. 668847[/snapback] What does THAT have to do with THIS ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Didnt Marino have similar success never to win the Big 1, on ly to get to it once. 668847[/snapback] We are talking about a rookie here, it is a bit early to put the "Marino" tag on Roethlisberger I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 I said Ben didn't play well... I just don't put all the blame on him.... when did the D step up today at all? The Pats O had their way with the Steelers D all day long. None of the three turnovers was in Steeler territory IIRC... championship defenses step up in situations like that. Ben played bad, the D played worse cause they ain't a rookie and were supposed to be one of the Steelers strengths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Didnt Marino have similar success never to win the Big 1, on ly to get to it once. 668847[/snapback] I think his point is you never know if this was Roethlisberger's one shot at a Super Bowl. Premature? Of course. But if you were given Marino's career numbers after the Dolphins lost the Super Bowl in '84, you'd have assumed that he'd returned to The Big Game several more times. You just never know. That being said, there is much for Ben to build on. The rookie slump he was in was easy for all to see, except for Steelers homers, of course . Teams usually cannot win in spite of their quarterback. Unbelievable year for the rook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 IIRC, didn't one of the turnovers start in Patriots territory, but when it was finished, it ended up in the Steelers end zone for 6? The first pick was behind the WR and he deflected it, but it was still a terrible pass. The second pick, he was baited. The third pick was another terrible throw--overthrow. First INT was their first drive, and led to a field goal. Second INT was returned for a TD, and the third INT led to another touchdown. Let's call it like it is: Ben played terrible and a lot of the blame should fall squarely on his shoulders. The rest of the blame needs to be put on a much too conservative gameplan. Sure, their MO is to run the ball, but mixing it up a little in the beginning of the game (on 1st and 2nd downs) may have changed things a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 I think his point is you never know if this was Roethlisberger's one shot at a Super Bowl. Premature? Of course. But if you were given Marino's career numbers after the Dolphins lost the Super Bowl in '84, you'd have assumed that he'd returned to The Big Game several more times. You just never know. That being said, there is much for Ben to build on. The rookie slump he was in was easy for all to see, except for Steelers homers, of course . Teams usually cannot win in spite of their quarterback. Unbelievable year for the rook. 668916[/snapback] I get that, I just misunderstood Sarge's comment. Looking back on Sarge's comment, I have no idea why I jumped on it like I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Can we start calling him "the next Favre" after his 5 ints in 2 playoff games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Can we start calling him "the next Favre" after his 5 ints in 2 playoff games? 668927[/snapback] It would have to be more like 5 INT's in ONLY one game to be Favre-like . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 It would have to be more like 5 INT's in ONLY one game to be Favre-like . 668929[/snapback] But you've gotta work up to that stuff. Like how Manning had to choke in early-round playoff games to work up to choking in divisional and championship rounds. 5 ints in 2 games, it's a start you can build on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 But you've gotta work up to that stuff. Like how Manning had to choke in early-round playoff games to work up to choking in divisional and championship rounds. 5 ints in 2 games, it's a start you can build on. 668936[/snapback] Ouch. Low blow. I guess I deserved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutrun Jellies Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Didnt Marino have similar success never to win the Big 1, on ly to get to it once. 668847[/snapback] Who are you, Esiason? That was priceless -- I bet Marino is still wandering around with that "what do you mean I have no clothes on -- I'm the emporer" look on his face!!! Anyway, I like Ben's performance this season. Heck of a year from any QB, especially a rookie who came out early from a smaller school ... I don't think the last two games are indicative of his next 100. I think he'll learn and develop into one of the finest QBs in the game. Here's hoping, anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutrun Jellies Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 I said Ben didn't play well... I just don't put all the blame on him.... when did the D step up today at all? The Pats O had their way with the Steelers D all day long. None of the three turnovers was in Steeler territory IIRC... championship defenses step up in situations like that. Ben played bad, the D played worse cause they ain't a rookie and were supposed to be one of the Steelers strengths. 668910[/snapback] Decent point -- turnovers demoralize and exhaust, but champions overcome. Pittsburgh needed to stop New England after the field goal made it 31-20 ... get the ball back, score there, and maybe, just maybe, a flame of hope flickers ... Pittsburgh couldn't stop New England on that key drive ... FG makes it 34-20 ... dang. DANG!! Nice game, Pats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarina Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 I still say there's no one on the planet happier about the Colts' loss than Marino. At least he can say he made it to the Super Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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