kraftykraft Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 Moss to Philly for Terrell Owens The Iggles fans will keep him in line! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
policyvote Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 I think I've got some stale JuJuBees. Peace policy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizards Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 Randy Moss to Dallas Cowboys for CB Terence Newman, Safety Tony Dixon and 1st round pick-2005. Same two teams in the Walker deal...really though Moss probably is staying put IMO... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 Moss to Philly for Terrell Owens The Iggles fans will keep him in line! 674166[/snapback] W H A T ??? Please. Explain this "logic". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egret Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 I think I've got some stale JuJuBees. Peace policy 674201[/snapback] Maybe the Vikings can trade him for a real QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Itals Posted January 27, 2005 Author Share Posted January 27, 2005 Moss for Burress - straight up. 674054[/snapback] Nice post pad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Itals Posted January 27, 2005 Author Share Posted January 27, 2005 Randy Moss to Dallas Cowboys for CB Terence Newman, Safety Tony Dixon and 1st round pick-2005. Same two teams in the Walker deal...really though Moss probably is staying put IMO... 674326[/snapback] As a Cowboys fan, I was thinking what the offer might be from them, too. I think you have it right, except for Tony Dixon, who is a complete stiff and will probably be released, imo. Sub in Bradie James and the Vikes might think twice, although I also think they would insist on Roy Williams in place of Newman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Itals Posted January 27, 2005 Author Share Posted January 27, 2005 Moss to Philly for Terrell Owens The Iggles fans will keep him in line! 674166[/snapback] Well, if we add your Terrell Owens to flyeaglesfly "offer" of $350 million, you might just have a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 Moss for Belicheck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziachild007 Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 Houston already has a stud WR, and doesn't have any depth on defense anyway, so it really wouldn't make much sense for either party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 I haven't seen any offers good enough to give Moss away. It's going to take a stud player and not one that is in the twilight of his career plus draft picks and more draft picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 (edited) Terrence Newman? The dude is a joke! Sorry, our defensive backfield is already getting burned enough the way it is. Edited January 27, 2005 by MikesVikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd1 Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 Take Green Bay off your list, there would be riots in the streets if that trade happened. OAKLAND-- how about Charles Woodson straight up or Buchanon and a #2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Itals Posted January 27, 2005 Author Share Posted January 27, 2005 (edited) Terrence Newman? The dude is a joke! Sorry, our defensive backfield is already getting burned enough the way it is. 674442[/snapback] Yeah, but Newman and a #1 is at least a step up from Buchanon and a #2. Newman was horrible last year except for the final 4 games. He turned it around and looked at least as good as he did his rookie season. He's going into his third year, which should make for the year he breaks out and starts to really play well. But you're right, the Vikes will have no interest in trading for a big question mark. They will want a young bonafide stud plus picks. That's why I thought they might listen to an offer of Roy Williams, Bradie James and a 2005 #1. I'm not sure if the Cowboys would make that offer though. I'm not even sure if the Vikes would accept. Williams was almost as horrendous as Newman last year. Edited January 27, 2005 by General Itals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 (edited) Tony Gonzalez + one of our young up-and-coming DLinemen + 2nd rounder in 2005 ...Kris Wilson and Jason Dunn would (effectively) split TGs role... Edited January 27, 2005 by muck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 I'll give you UT, FIDTML, WaterMan, Only in America, and I'll even throw in Hankk for good measure. 673538[/snapback] But methinks it ain't gonna happen anyway. 673545[/snapback] me 2... with the pending sale no sale its all up in the air and if the team doesnt sell all hell is going to break loose next year ans the fallowing year when all the coaches contracts are up and who will come in here with red owning the team ans cutting everything... he has set it up to sell but if e doesnt it will crash hard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 I believe the Ravens (or the local press) have mentioned a 1st rounder and Adalius Thomas (LB). Thomas made the pro bowl as a special teamer a year ago and did a good job of filling in for Peter Boulware this year. Boulware is expected to be healthy next year and the Ravens need a WR more than a backup LB. I also wouldn't mind them offering Boulware with the 1st rounder. Chris McAllister and a 3rd would make me happy. McAllister is a good corner when motivated, but he hasn't been motivated lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Itals Posted January 27, 2005 Author Share Posted January 27, 2005 (edited) I believe the Ravens (or the local press) have mentioned a 1st rounder and Adalius Thomas (LB). Thomas made the pro bowl as a special teamer a year ago and did a good job of filling in for Peter Boulware this year. Boulware is expected to be healthy next year and the Ravens need a WR more than a backup LB. I also wouldn't mind them offering Boulware with the 1st rounder. Chris McAllister and a 3rd would make me happy. McAllister is a good corner when motivated, but he hasn't been motivated lately. 675130[/snapback] Thanks for the response. I'd been waiting for a Baltimore homer to give his take on the situation. I highly doubt that Thomas and the pick alone would get close to getting the Vikes attention. For that matter, I'm not even sure about Boulware. I know he came out of college highly rated, but how has he performed for the Ravens? My guess is that Ray Lewis really elevates the play of that entire unit. And why wouldn't the Raven's be willing to offer the 1st rounder if McAllister is the guy to be traded? Especially if he's not a motivated (attitude problem similar to Randy Moss?) player. Like I said earlier, for the Ravens to get this done, it will take Suggs and/or Reed and a pick. It seems that no team is willing to give up what the Vikes would (or at least should) want. And the Vikes shouldn't be willing to fire sale Moss. In the end, I think all this speculation being stoked by guys like Mortenson is really out of line. Edited January 27, 2005 by General Itals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 MN Sends: Moss, Bennett, Wiggins, & Hovan SD Sends: McCardell, Tomlinson, Gates, & a Taco Johns six pack & a pound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Jesus Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 MIA sends Surtain and the #2 pick. MINN sends Randy Moss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizards Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 MN Sends: Moss, Bennett, Wiggins, & Hovan SD Sends: McCardell, Tomlinson, Gates, & a Taco Johns six pack & a pound 675197[/snapback] Only way that happens is in a FFL with a "tooltime" for an owner.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Men In Tights Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 GB won't trade for Moss, besides GB can't afford to give up defense. So, I am going to have some fun and propose something from the Falcons. Why you ask, after seeing all the posts about Moss and Vick, I figured why not try to get them on the same team and see if Moss can lift Vick's play, and see if Vick can throw to a threat like Moss... Atlanta would offer Chris Draft or Keith Brooking, Bryan Scott-S, Peerless Price, and a #1 pick this year, and a #2 next year based on playing time etc... Minnesota would give up Moss and Mewelde Moore... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 Moss in New York would be hilarious. Moss is already living in a fish bowl the way it is now. Moving him to the zoo that is NY would be so much more interesting than it already is. But I would sure like to see Vilma and a few picks for Moss. Throw Coles in on a deal. That would be good for a few more laughs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outfit Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 How about Porter/Buchanon and a #2 pick ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Itals Posted February 24, 2005 Author Share Posted February 24, 2005 And the weener is.......... no one! Well at least The Outfit put out an offer from the Raiders, but Porter/Buchanon and a 2nd round pick wasn't really close to the actual trade of Harris, a 2005 1st round draft choice and a future 7th round choice. So what have we learned? First, the Vikings got no where near Moss' actual football value in return. Harris has the chance to develop into a decent LB when healthy. He could be a guy who puts up solid tackle numbers, but I doubt he will ever become a game breaker in the Urlacher mode. And draft choices, no matter how high they are, are still a crap shoot in comparison to the acknowledged talent Moss has and the numbers he has put up. Second, no team was willing to give the Vikings anything close to Moss' actual football value. His numerous run-ins and character flaws clearly affected that. That clearly made his market value much lower than his actual football value. And third, the Vikings clearly consider this a case of addition by subtraction. They were perfectly willing to take the lower market value for him just so they could get rid of him. I didn't think that would be the case. I was wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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