kcmast Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Is this guy any good? Only 61 tackles last year doesn't sound that great. 4th year guy, I'm guessing his contract is coming due??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 (edited) I'm in the same boat. I was like, WHO? If the Raiders pull this off, it'll be the steal of the century. . . Edited February 23, 2005 by CaptainHook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerz Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Yeah, who is this guy????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Harris is a fantastic LB who was hurt much of the season this year. Last year he had 109 solos, 34 assists and 2 sacks. IMO He's an upgrade over what Min has right now & may indicate, as I stated in another thread, that the Vikings will move to a 3-4 defense since they certainly have the line to handle it with Udeze & Williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Red McCombs: Minnesota fans, you refused to step up and give me a stadium. I'm forced to sell the team and only make about a $400 million profit instead of about twice that if you would have given me my stadium. As punishment, i'm trading your beloved Randy Moss for a ham sandwich and a diet Tab. :evillaugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 (edited) Harris is a fantastic LB who was hurt much of the season this year. Last year he had 109 solos, 34 assists and 2 sacks. IMO He's an upgrade over what Min has right now & may indicate, as I stated in another thread, that the Vikings will move to a 3-4 defense since they certainly have the line to handle it with Udeze & Williams. 709246[/snapback] FYI that was 2 years ago (2003-4) where he had 109 tackles. And that's 109 total, not 109 solos. 79 solos + 30 assists. He's certainly a decent LB, but I think he's no better than a guy like EJ Henderson or Donterrius Thomas. Sure, they'll be looking to replace Claiborne, who's like 80 years old. Edit: I reread your post -- you did indicate that it was two seasons ago where he had a pretty solid season... but the numbers were off. Harris' Numbers Edited February 23, 2005 by darin3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever in debt to mo lewis Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 FYI that was 2 years ago (2003-4) where he had 109 tackles. And that's 109 total, not 109 solos. 79 solos + 30 assists. He's certainly a decent LB, but I think he's no better than a guy like EJ Henderson or Donterrius Thomas. Sure, they'll be looking to replace Claiborne, who's like 80 years old. Edit: I reread your post -- you did indicate that it was two seasons ago where he had a pretty solid season... but the numbers were off. Harris' Numbers 709269[/snapback] Chris Claiborne is only like 26 or 27 years old...hes just not in great shape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Chris Claiborne is only like 26 or 27 years old...hes just not in great shape 709279[/snapback] Dagnabbit you're exactly right... Claiborne Seems like the guy's been in the league forever. Maybe 'cuz it's he keeps getting hurt, like an old, broken down NFL'er. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 FYI that was 2 years ago (2003-4) where he had 109 tackles. And that's 109 total, not 109 solos. 79 solos + 30 assists. He's certainly a decent LB, but I think he's no better than a guy like EJ Henderson or Donterrius Thomas. Sure, they'll be looking to replace Claiborne, who's like 80 years old. Edit: I reread your post -- you did indicate that it was two seasons ago where he had a pretty solid season... but the numbers were off. Harris' Numbers 709269[/snapback] My bad on the numbers, though I did mean the 03-04 season. Again, it's just my opinion but I think the only reasons Harris didn't match or beat the 03-04 stats were because 1)he tore up his knee at the beginning of the season causing him to miss time & 2)the Raiders, themselves moved to a 3-4 defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 My bad on the numbers, though I did mean the 03-04 season. Again, it's just my opinion but I think the only reasons Harris didn't match or beat the 03-04 stats were because 1)he tore up his knee at the beginning of the season causing him to miss time & 2)the Raiders, themselves moved to a 3-4 defense. 709293[/snapback] Don't get me wrong, I was a huge Nap Harris fan in '03... he was a STEAL off the waiver wire as my 3rd LB in my IDP league. He might do good in Minnesota with a solid year of rehab under his belt and playing in a 3-4... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Don't get me wrong, I was a huge Nap Harris fan in '03... he was a STEAL off the waiver wire as my 3rd LB in my IDP league. He might do good in Minnesota with a solid year of rehab under his belt and playing in a 3-4... 709313[/snapback] I hear where you're coming from, I've just been watching him since he was drafted & always liked him as a player. There is always the possibility that I was completely wrong, but I don't believe so & obviously Minnesota doesn't either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Rajn has Nap in Fusion, so hes trying to talk him up, to finally get rid of him for something of value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Rajn has Nap in Fusion, so hes trying to talk him up, to finally get rid of him for something of value. 709341[/snapback] B*stard, quit trying to ***-block me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellab Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Don't get me wrong, I was a huge Nap Harris fan in '03... he was a STEAL off the waiver wire as my 3rd LB in my IDP league. He might do good in Minnesota with a solid year of rehab under his belt and playing in a 3-4... 709313[/snapback] So what you are saying is that the best player in the NFL is being traded for a guy that will be good AFTER REHABING. I can't believe this franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 So what you are saying is that the best player in the NFL is being traded for a guy that will be good AFTER REHABING. I can't believe this franchise. 709434[/snapback] No rehab necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'canes2004 Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 (edited) Rajn has Nap in Fusion, so hes trying to talk him up, to finally get rid of him for something of value. 709341[/snapback] Sarge calling him out. "Oh, this beautiful 83 Gremlin is a fantastic buy. You'd look sooo cool in it. Go ahead, give it a spin." Edited February 24, 2005 by 'canes2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcmast Posted February 24, 2005 Author Share Posted February 24, 2005 If this is his 4th year, is his contract about up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBalata Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 If this is his 4th year, is his contract about up? 709714[/snapback] Harris is signed thru 2008. He will have base salaries of $541,000, $659,000, $776,000 and $894,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Is everyone forgetting the most important part of this trade, the 7th overall pick???? Two years ago that pick resulted in Kevin Williams who is a complete STUD. I think Nap Harris is an upgrade to the vikings weakest link last year, the Line-backers and if they draft smart, the 7th pick should result in another STUD... good move IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellab Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Is everyone forgetting the most important part of this trade, the 7th overall pick???? Two years ago that pick resulted in Kevin Williams who is a complete STUD. I think Nap Harris is an upgrade to the vikings weakest link last year, the Line-backers and if they draft smart, the 7th pick should result in another STUD... good move IMO 709892[/snapback] I agree that there are holes on the defense, however the salary cap the Vikings currently have should allow them to keep Moss and attract some good defensive talent. Trading a star for an unknown draft pick. A young man that has not proven his worth in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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