Outshined Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 The Giants withdrew their offer. Next stop - Winter Park. Earlier the Vikes said they would sign him if he lower his asking price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rock Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 That's very surprising to hear. Man, has that guy's free agency dreams evaporated or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 He is TO with no talent to back it up. no toughness, no competitive fire... all he has is size, and some speed, and he doesnt use either talent enough on the field to make up for his obvious lack of team skills, on the field, or off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBalata Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 He'll be a Viking by the end of today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 He'll be a Viking by the end of today. 728606[/snapback] yup thats what ive been hearing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampnuts Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 I'm glad he's not going to the G-Men, I'd rather he went to the Vikes. He could be an impact in fantasy again with Culpepper focusing on him. He's a better talent than people give him credit for, and I don't believe he's the cancer that people make him out to be. I just like to see players go where they can put up good numbers, it's better for all us fantasy lovers. Plex with the Vikes is a fourth round consideration. Plex with the Giants is a seventh at best in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 He'll be a Viking by the end of today. 728606[/snapback] Most likely as his market has evaporated he will need to supplement his new contract. Seriously though, consensus around here is he's Moss wihout the talent so how does this help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 I would think that the Vikes might have learned something from the Moss experience. Why bring in a guy who is missing appointments with the "flu"? This guy is an arse, but without Moss' talents. They would be better off forgiving Kelly Cambell of his sins, rather than to sign a spineless Burress. Why they would want another "problem" after finally of riding themselves of Moss is a mystery to me. Sign Gardner, let Burelson get better, and modify the offense some. It's been what, 2 or 3 years since Plaxico has had a TD over 50 yards? Minny needs a deep threat, and Burress aint that. Burleson fills that big reciever roll. And, he will actually go UP in the end zone to pull a ball in. Burress is a cheap man's Burleson. Minny dont need him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soopanuts Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 No Burress in NY! EA, I applaud this decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBalata Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Well....I think it's necesarry to keep in mind most Minnesotans weren't happy that Moss was dealt away. Some of us have been able to come to terms with it better then others. That said...I do believe that at some point in time in some relationships there comes a time where it's maybe wise to part ways BEFORE everything really hits the fan and blows up in your face instead of waiting until after. I think the Vikes and Moss were at that point. As far as Plax goes, there are definelty some similiar traits going on there. He's a little childish and moody it seems, just like Moss, but one big difference if he was to sign with the Vikes is, Randy was at the top of the pyramid. The star of the team, I can say and do whatever I want. What are they going to do to me? Plaxico is not going to have that same status. Do I think Plax is a must sign for the Vikes? No. Should we even be thinking about paying him a long term contract at 5 mill a year like he has been asking. No. But a 1-3 year deal, at a lower based salary with incentives built in that could earn him alot more money, I think the risk/reward factor could be worth it. The current wr corp for the Vikes is going to be missing a couple things, the deep ball threat and red zone threat. MRob can still provide the red zone threat possibly, but Daunte has become pretty good at putting that ball up in the corner of the end zone where a tall wr can go up over smaller dbs and bring the ball down. I think Plax could be the guy to accomplish both aspects in the Vikes offense. Again, for the right price, the risk could be worth it. I don't put much stock in what Plax did with the Steelers. Who's been throwing the ball to him? Kordell and Tommy Maddox for the most part. This year, BIg Ben comes onto the scene and Plax was looking a whole lot better until he got hurt. I think Plax could fill the hole in the wr position, we've already filled holes in the d-line, lb corp and the secondary. Fill that last hole before the draft, and that frees up the front office to do whatever they want in draft, they won't have to be focusing as much on making sure we fill one certain position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmyk93 Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 I assume he will goto Minnesota... unless he burns his bridges there, too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Rumors from other Vikings message boards from a so called "insider" have Plax coming to Minnesota this evening. I bet he's signed by tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Scorp Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 (edited) Nice breakdown Billy. I think you hit the nail on the head with your analysis. Even if the Vikings are planning on being a "smashmouth" football team you can't allow the defense to stack 9 men in the box. We do need a WR to stretch the D so we can run the ball. Burleson is a C Carter type receiver who can break a 10 yard slant into a 55 yard TD, but he is not going to burn a CB on a fly route! Burress is the best option out there for us and if we can get him cheap... plus it alows us some flexibility in the draft. If the player they want is there at #7 take him or if not trade down a couple spots and pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd. (of course make sure you have the deal done or get your card up there before you run out of time!!!) KFAN is reporting that Plaxico is on his way to Winter Park (Vikings headquarters) tonight. Could be that a deal is being pounded out? Edited March 10, 2005 by T-Scorp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Rumors from other Vikings message boards from a so called "insider" have Plax coming to Minnesota this evening. I bet he's signed by tonight. 728889[/snapback] With Burleson emerging last season, EVEN when Moss wasn't playing, I think the combo of Burress and Burleson, with a little Kelly Campbell thrown in could be a decent WR threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSab Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 If the Vikes couldn't win with Moss, Plax isn't going to put them over the hump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schellin30 Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 As far as Plax goes, there are definelty some similiar traits going on there. He's a little childish and moody it seems, just like Moss, but one big difference if he was to sign with the Vikes is, Randy was at the top of the pyramid. The star of the team, I can say and do whatever I want. What are they going to do to me? Plaxico is not going to have that same status. 728828[/snapback] Exactelly! I couldn't agree with you more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 With Burleson emerging last season, EVEN when Moss wasn't playing, I think the combo of Burress and Burleson, with a little Kelly Campbell thrown in could be a decent WR threat. 728894[/snapback] I think we could dump KC and sign Travis Taylor. Then of course we would draft Mike Williams. Burress, Burleson, Robinson, Taylor, & Williams. No Moss there, but the sum looks good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 If the Vikes couldn't win with Moss, Plax isn't going to put them over the hump. 728896[/snapback] No, but a rebuilt defense could. We're already improved on the line and in the secondary. The LBers are still suspect though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 This team is getting better and more exciting by the day.... Plax may be no Moss, but he's a good fit here and would prosper with Culpepper throwing him the deep balls.... This would be another HUGH signing for the Vikes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSab Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 No, but a rebuilt defense could. We're already improved on the line and in the secondary. The LBers are still suspect though. 728905[/snapback] I agree the D needs to get alot better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 (edited) They have a STUD in Kevin Williams... Two GREAT corners now by adding Smoot... They upgraded at LB with Harris, even if he isn't a star... ...and got a veteran run stopper in Fat Williams...i mean, Pat... if they add one more good LB, this is a potential top 10 D next year... Not to mention second year under the D Coordinator... This team is having a GREAT offseason so far... Edited March 10, 2005 by alexgaddis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSab Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 They have a STUD in Kevin Williams... Two GREAT corners now by adding Smoot... They upgraded at LB with Harris, even if he isn't a star... ...and got a veteran run stopper in Fat Williams...i mean, Pat... if they add one more good LB, this is a potential top 10 D next year... Not to mention second year under the D Coordinator... This team is having a GREAT offseason so far... 728914[/snapback] And don't forget to mention your Brain Surgeon Coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 If the Vikes couldn't win with Moss, Plax isn't going to put them over the hump. 728896[/snapback] With all due respect: dumbass. :oldrazz: It was never the Vikes offense that was the problem, at least not in the last several years. With Smoot and Winfield at CB, and MAYBE Darius at safety, they could have one of the top secondaries in the NFL. That will put them over the hump. Then, a solid WR group, albeit without stud Moss, could be enough to take them further than Moss and no defense ever did. Keep in mind, they probably have the deepest RB group in the league as well. I know you acknowledged the fact that the defense needs improvement, but still felt the need to respond to your original post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSab Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 With all due respect: dumbass. :oldrazz: It was never the Vikes offense that was the problem, at least not in the last several years. With Smoot and Winfield at CB, and MAYBE Darius at safety, they could have one of the top secondaries in the NFL. That will put them over the hump. Then, a solid WR group, albeit without stud Moss, could be enough to take them further than Moss and no defense ever did. Keep in mind, they probably have the deepest RB group in the league as well. I know you acknowledged the fact that the defense needs improvement, but still felt the need to respond to your original post. 728928[/snapback] All that being said, Tice is still an idiot. A likeable idiot, but none the less an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBalata Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 No, but a rebuilt defense could. We're already improved on the line and in the secondary. The LBers are still suspect though. 728905[/snapback] 3 words.... June, Sam Cowart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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