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Hey -- congrats to the University of Vermont as they head to the tournament for the third straight year ... nice win over Northeastern -- handled them easily, even with the inexplicable non-ejection of Northeastern's top scorer who threw two punches in a floor scrum in the opening minutes ...

 

Congrats, Catamounts! :D

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Jellies, not to pick on Vermont here, I happen to love the place.... but they will be one and done. Is it really fair to exclude teams from the dance that might win a game? Vermont would be a long shot in the NIT, ya know? Just wondering if some of the less powerful conferences should get these automatic dance cards.

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Jellies, not to pick on Vermont here, I happen to love the place.... but they will be one and done. Is it really fair to exclude teams from the dance that might win a game? Vermont would be a long shot in the NIT, ya know? Just wondering if some of the less powerful conferences should get these automatic dance cards.

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I heard an argument about this from John Feinstein the other day. His point was that the reason the NCAA tourney is so great is that it gives the kids from the smaller schools the opportunity to experience the NCAA tournament. Even though they are "one and done", they at least get to experience the day of going to the tournament site, doing the interviews, playing on national TV, and getting the full chance that they might be able to pull an upset. For those players, this is a once in a lifetime experience. For the larger schools, they are there more often, so the players usually will have more than one chance to experience the event.

 

I think it should stay as is.

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Jellies, not to pick on Vermont here, I happen to love the place.... but they will be one and done. Is it really fair to exclude teams from the dance that might win a game? Vermont would be a long shot in the NIT, ya know? Just wondering if some of the less powerful conferences should get these automatic dance cards.

 

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Ask UCLA or Kansas how sure a bet it is for a "big time" program to beat Vermont. :D Coppenrath gives the Catamounts the ability not to embarass themselves at that level ...

 

But then again, as a native, not an alum (I schooled up the hill at SMC), I'm free to almost agree with you on the "one and done" part ... I'd love to see them win a game as this group (the seniors and the coach) go out.

 

I do, however, disagree with the "less powerful" conferences -- until you stop letting the "powerful" teams pad their records by playing the "less powerful" conferences, each conference deserves to send it's champ to the dance.

 

THEN AGAIN, if "powerful teams" ever get the nerve up to split Division I into the top 96 programs in the nation (regardless of current conference) and relegate the rest to a new division II (and renumbering the whole system down to something like division 6 for the Lyndon State's of the world -- and then only allow teams to play within their division? I'd love that.

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I wasnt saying the way it is was wrong, I was trying to pose the question for discussion. After having given it more thought,I have to agree with Sarge. If the chance to be in the NCAA finals was taken away, think about how many kids would lose a dream, even if it's a long shot. It would hurt the smaller schools ability to recruit, at least somewhat, as well.

 

There is something unfair about a larger school who has a better chance to advance being replaced by a smaller school, but the kids in those programs are already living the dream, playing for a big program. So, after some thought, i say GO CATAMOUNTS! :D

 

The whole thing about schools and conference alignments is a different can of worms. I don't think there is anything noble in the thinking process by college administrators when making those decisions, it's all about where they can make the most money.

 

The most interesting case study, I think, right now is ND. Thier football program is in a shambles, and will remain so unless they drop thier acedemic standards, but that affects the entire institution, from admin to the makeup of the student body and to the school's reputation. Bottom line, go the way the Ivy league schools did, keep high academic standards, wave goodbye to half of the money supply for operations or compete with USC, and lose thier lofty status as an institute in the upper echalon of higher learning.

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Jellies, not to pick on Vermont here, I happen to love the place.... but they will be one and done. Is it really fair to exclude teams from the dance that might win a game? Vermont would be a long shot in the NIT, ya know? Just wondering if some of the less powerful conferences should get these automatic dance cards.

 

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I think Vermont has a shot to win a game or two. They have a solid squad, Dirk wanna be is a tough player.

 

That was BS with the guard from the other team not getting booted, I would like to know how they justified not booting him after the punches.

 

CJ

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I think Vermont has a shot to win a game or two.  They have a solid squad, Dirk wanna be is a tough player.

 

That was BS with the guard from the other team not getting booted, I would like to know how they justified not booting him after the punches.

 

CJ

 

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Yup. Coppenrath can carry Vermont to one victory. They'll be a 13 or maybe even a 12 seed. I've seen it happen before: Manning, Anthony... one player can carry a team to victory - even a championship. Not saying Vermont is going to even smell the Final Four, but I wouldn't be shocked if they won one game. Over some weak team like NC State. What I'd really love to see is Kentucky getting a 2 seed (that's a lock, now that they pissed away a top seed) and Vermont somehow getting screwed and getting a 15. Vermont would beat Kentucky.

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They certainly got a tough draw against Syracuse but atleast they don't have to travel far this year.

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That is a tough one, but I could see SYR over-looking Vermont. Possible upset special, but still leaning SYR's way for the pools. We'll see.

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So much for one and done! :D

 

Vermont wins ... again!

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What a great team effort!

 

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I ended up taking Vermont in my pool and Bucknell, I feel like Jimmie the Greek, except that I can't get a darn 8/9 game right...

 

Oh well, today and tomorrow can break your bracket.

 

Good Luck to Vermont, beat those Sparties!

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Jellies, you owe me! If I hadnt a' said squat, they would have lost! You know this to be true. PM me for my mailing address.... I want some doughnuts!  :D  Nice win! Congrats!

 

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:D If they win another, I might just have to admit this to be true!

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It was fun while it lasted -- the win over 'Cuse was huge. Nice job, Cats!

 

Now, here's hoping they can stay respectable in their conference (set aside the NCAAs, I think) with a new coach and without Cop & Sorr ... Regardless, this group did VT proud. :D

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