Big John Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 NFLN is breaking into the 9/11 memorial. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 28 minutes ago, Big John said: NFLN is breaking into the 9/11 memorial.  Howso? I DVR GMFB and when they started the show off with a bunch of enthusiasm and excitement about last night's game with nary a mention of 9/11 I immediately stopped it and deleted it. F them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, stevegrab said:  If there were games being played on 9/11 no way it goes unmentioned.  Mostly it will go unmentioned because they will too busy showing us all the social justice stuff that is now part of most major sports. (I don't see it in NHL, or the auto/motorcycle road racing that I follow.) I get that there is change that needs to be made, but many of us watch sports (and other stuff on TV, or go to movies, concerts, etc) to get away from daily life and its headaches, not to be bombarded by this stuff. It is another benefit to watching things recorded earlier, or even on a delay where I can skip stuff I don't care about, which can include the ramblings of announcers or pre/mid/post game analysis.  NEVER FORGET   A friend texted me this morning saying he was glad we visited the Flight 93 memorial in PA some years ago on a motorcycle trip. (We were in the area to go to Frank Lloyd Wright's Falling Water and decided to visit the memorial in the afternoon.) iI was just before they finished the current setup and sounded like that would add even more dramatic affect to it. Will need to make a trip there again, maybe before next year's 20 year anniversary.  Ever wonder why that is? NHL and anything auto/motorcycle racing are predominantly done by white folks. Where are you seeing the social justice stuff? NBA and NFL with a much larger black presence. Makes sense, no? Using their platform to get the much needed attention and change.  Or were you referring to not seeing the 9/11 coverage in NHL auto racing coverage. I'd think you would. Much of the racing world is redneck-ville and Trump country :vomit: . Edited September 11, 2020 by irish 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 If you guys must spew this trash don't do it in this thread. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, flemingd said: If you guys must spew this trash don't do it in this thread. Â Agree. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XFlash Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Agree. Kept political stuff in Non-Football forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Agree as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted September 10, 2021 Author Share Posted September 10, 2021 Hard to believe it's been 20 years.   1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Yep, been lots of coverage on the news, and of course they worked it into the Kickoff game. I'm flying my flag all weekend starting this morning.  Never forget.   PS Made my second trip to the Flight 93 Memorial in western PA this summer, visitor center area fully built now and a lot of interesting things, good for historical purposes. We already have a generation of kids born and raised who did not experience it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 I remember it all too well. I will certainly never forget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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loaf Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Todd Beamer's call with an operator and an FBI Agent Todd: Hello… Operator…listen to me…I can’t speak very loud. – This is an emergency. I’m a passenger on a United flight to San Francisco.. We have a situation here….Our plane has been hijacked…..can you understand me? Lisa: (exhaling a deep breath to herself) I understand… Can the hijackers see you talking on the phone? Todd: No Lisa: Can you tell me how many hijackers are on the plane? Todd: There are three that we know of. Lisa: Can you see any weapons? What kind of weapons do they have? Todd: Yes…. they don’t have guns….they have knives – they took over the plane with knives. Lisa: Do you mean…like steak knives? Todd: No, these are razor knives…like box cutters. Lisa: Can you tell what country these people are from? Todd: No…..I don’t know. They sound like they’re from the mid-east. Lisa: Have they said what they want? Todd: Someone announced from the cockpit that there was a bomb on board. He said he was the captain and to stay in our seats and stay quiet. He said that they were meeting these men’s demands and returning to the airport… It was very broken English, and… I’m telling you…it sounded fake! Lisa: Ok sir, please give me your name. Todd: My name is Todd Beamer. Lisa: Ok Todd….my name is Lisa…Do you know your flight number? If you can’t remember, it’s on your ticket. Todd: It’s United Flight 93. Lisa: Now Todd, can you try to tell me exactly what happened? Todd: Two of the hijackers were sitting in first class near the cockpit. A third one was sitting near the back of the coach section. The two up. front got into the cockpit somehow; there was shouting. The third hijacker said he had a bomb. It looks like a bomb. He’s got it tied to his waist with a red belt of some kind. Lisa: So is the door to the cockpit open? Todd: No, the hijackers shut it behind them. Lisa: Has anyone been injured? Todd: Yes, ..they…they killed one passenger sitting in first class. There’s been lots of shouting. We don’t know if the pilots are dead or alive. A flight attendant told me that the pilot and copilot had been forced from the cockpit and may have been wounded. Lisa: Where is the 3rd hijacker now Todd? Todd: He’s near the back of the plane. They forced most of the passengers into first class. There are fourteen of us here in the back. Five are flight attendants. He hasn’t noticed that I slipped into this pantry to get the phone. The guy with the bomb ordered us to sit on the floor in the rear of the plane……….oh Jesus.. Help! Lisa: Todd….are you ok? Tell me what’s happening! Todd: Hello…..We’re going down….I think we’re going to crash……Wait – wait a minute. No, we’re leveling off….we’re ok. I think we may be turning around…..That’s it – we changed directions. Do you hear me….we’re flying east again. Lisa: Ok Todd…. What’s going on with the other passengers? Todd: Everyone is… really scared. A few passengers with cell phones have made calls to relatives. A guy, Jeremy, was talking to his wife just before the hijacking started. She told him that hijackers had crashed two planes into the World Trade Center……Lisa is that true?? Lisa: Todd…..I have to tell you the truth…..it’s very bad. The World Trade Center is gone. Both of the towers have been destroyed. Todd: Oh God —help us! Lisa: A third plane was taken over by terrorists. It crashed into the Pentagon in Washington DC. Our country is under attack….and I’m afraid that your plane may be part of their plan. Todd: Oh dear God. Dear God…….Lisa, will you do something for me? Lisa: I’ll try….if I can….Yes. Todd: I want you to call my wife and my kids for me and tell them what’s happened. Promise me you’ll call.. Lisa: I promise – I’ll call. Todd: Our home number is 201 353-1073…….You have the same name as my wife…Lisa….We’ve been married for 10 years. She’s pregnant with our 3rd child. Tell her that I love her…….(choking up)..I’ll always love her..(clearing throat) We have two boys.. David, he’s 3 and Andrew, he’s 1…..Tell them……(choking) tell them that their daddy loves them and that he is so proud of them. (clearing throat again) Our baby is due January 12th…..I saw an ultra sound…..it was great….we still don’t know if it’s a girl or a boy………Lisa? Lisa: (barely able to speak) I’ll tell them, I promise Todd. Todd: I’m going back to the group—if I can get back I will… Lisa: Todd, leave this line open…are you still there?…… Lisa: (dials the phone..) Hello, FBI, my name is Lisa Jefferson, I’m a telephone supervisor for GTE. I need to report a terrorist hijacking of a United Airlines Flight 93….Yes I’ll hold. Goodwin: Hello, this is Agent Goodwin.. I understand you have a hijacking situation? Lisa: Yes sir, I’ve been talking with a passenger, a Todd Beamer, on Flight 93 who managed to get to an air phone unnoticed. Goodwin: Where did this flight originate, and what was its destination? Lisa: The flight left Newark New Jersey at 8 A.M. departing for San Francisco. The hijackers took over the plane shortly after takeoff, and several minutes later the plane changed course – it is now flying east. Goodwin: Ms. Jefferson…I need to talk to someone aboard that plane. Can you get me thru to the planes phone? Lisa: I still have that line open sir, I can patch you through on a conference call…hold a mo….. Todd: Hello Lisa, Lisa are you there? Lisa: Yes, I’m here. Todd, I made a call to the FBI, Agent Goodwin is on the line and will be talking to you as well. Todd: The others all know that this isn’t your normal hijacking. Jeremy called his wife again on his cell phone. She told him more about the World Trade Center and all. Goodwin: Hello Todd. This is Agent Goodwin with the FBI. We have been monitoring your flight. Your plane is on a course for Washington, DC. These terrorists sent two planes into the World Trade Center and one plane into the Pentagon. Our best guess is that they plan to fly your plane into either the White House or the United States Capital Building. Todd: I understand…hold on……I’ll…….I’ll be back.. Lisa: Mr. Goodwin, how much time do they have before they get to Washington? Goodwin: Not long ma’am. They changed course over Cleveland; they’re approaching Pittsburgh now. Washington may be twenty minutes away. Todd: (breathing a little heavier) The plane seems to be changing directions just a little. It’s getting pretty rough up here. The plane is flying real erratic….We’re not going to make it out of here. Listen to me….I want you to hear this….I have talked with the others….we have decided we would not be pawns in these hijackers suicidal plot. Lisa: Todd, what are you going to do? Todd: We’ve hatched a plan. Four of us are going to rush the hijacker with the bomb. After we take him out, we’ll break into the cockpit. A stewardess is getting some boiling water to throw on the hijackers at the controls. We’ll get them….and we’ll take them out. Lisa, …..will you do one last thing for me? Lisa: Yes…What is it? Todd: Would you pray with me? They pray: Our father which art in Heaven Hallowed be thy name, Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, And forgive us our trespasses As we forgive our trespassers, And lead us not into temptation But deliver us from evil For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory Forever…..Amen The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want… He makes me to lie down in green pastures He leads me beside the still waters He restores my soul He leads me in paths of righteousness for His name’s sake Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death I will fear no evil, for thou art with me….. Todd: (softer) God help me…Jesus help me….(clears throat and louder) Are you guys ready?…….. 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flemingd Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 (edited) I don't know how anyone can read or reflect on that without tears in their eyes. I can't. Edited September 11, 2022 by flemingd 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 1 hour ago, flemingd said: I don't know how anyone can read or reflect on that without tears in their eyes. I can't. I made my second visit to the flight 93 memorial in Shanksville PA this summer. It is a solemn place, the interpretive center had lots of material related to 9/11 itself, and their hijacking the crew and passengers specifically. There were many accounts of the passengers calling relatives and hatching their plan to take the plane down once they knew what was happening. Some brave individuals that day, who decided that it was better to prevent another attack on our people by crashing that plane. RIP to all those who perished, never forget. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted September 11, 2023 Author Share Posted September 11, 2023 Bump for today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 Never forget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana is da Man Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 22 years later, and this is still the hardest day of the year for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 (edited) I read some posts from the early pages of this thread. The one from Rovers was chilling . I lost two buddies that day . My one friend was a cop who died in the building collapse and the other was an EMS worker that died from complications related to that day afterwards. Both great men . Hug your loved ones a little closer today Edited September 11, 2023 by whomper 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 Still remember where I was and what I was doing. Every year those feelings well up, especially when I read the transcript of Beamer's phone call. Still remember the worry and (still) hope that it was some sort of accident after the first tower was hit and then the pure shock, helplessness and then welling anger after the second tower was hit. Such raw emotions that are still so vivid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana is da Man Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 6 hours ago, whomper said: Hug your loved ones a little closer today This right here. I knew over 20 people that didn't survive that day (NYFD, NYPD, people that worked in the towers) and one of them was a baseball teammate and friend who was the youngest firefighter killed that day.  Another ine was my father's assistant basketball coach and best friend. You never know........tell those you love that you love them. Give those you love a hug........tomorrow is not guaranteed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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