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Either way guess I have no choice.

Well here's the core of my team, I'm in a 2 keeper league. Brian Westbrook (round 1) Marques Colston (round 3) Tony Gonzalez (round 5) Dwayne Bowe (round 6) Aaron Rodgers (round 13) Chris Johnson (round 14) Obviously Rodgers and Johnson are going to be my keepers b/c I grabbed them so late. I'm just hesitant to throw Westbrook back into the draft pool. Especially b/c we dropped 2 teams, so the bottom half of round 1 is much weaker than the top half. We pick our draft position and then declare keepers, so I started considering keeping Westbrook if I had a late Round 1, seems like a waste though b/c then I'm down 1 player if I do that.

Little side note here, even though I got Brown as my #1, McCoy as my #2, and Moreno as my #3 in Keepers, doesn't mean I'd draft them like that. McCoy will definitely fall in most drafts, and I think Moreno goes in front of Brown in most drafts I'm not sure yet. Just depends on the value and how the players fall. But in an actual Dynasty Draft they'll all be gone in round 1, so it'd depend on my team to be honest. If I was in need of immediate help at RB I'd def grab Moreno over McCoy. But if I had depth and could gamble on McCoys future I def would he's such a perfect fit for that team.

First of all whoever pointed out my analysis on Moreno as a keeper your right that was more of a redraft analysis. I'd probably bump him ahead of Shonn Greene because I expect the Denver RB situation to be sorted out sooner than later, but I still like the other two over him based on the situations they fell in. As for this post I quoted, you're pointing out the ONE single year that Bellicheck leaned heavily on a RB. Dillon almost had 400 carries or something like that, it was his first year with the Patriots and Bellicheck was treating him like a brand new toy. But what happened the next year? The carries were split. McCalllister? He's not a rookie, he was never in a time share during his 3 or 4 seasons where all the wear and tear came on him. Bush? That arguement isn't even valid with him because he got injured his rookie year, AND he time shared in college , just like he was time shared his entire short NFL career. He's obviously injury prone and if he cant' stay healthy in a time share what do you think would happen to him with a full load? And work with what you got? Well guess what McDaniels got? A QB that he ran out of town, a horrible defense he didn't fix, 7 running backs and 2 stud WRs with an at best AVERAGE NFL QB throwing them the ball. LaMont Jordan said it himself when someone asked him about all the running backs on Denver's roster, he said they're in an offense that might throw the ball 60 times one week and then run it 60 times the next week, and then he said there will be carries to go around, and trust me, they'll go around. Again I'm not saying Moreno won't be fantasy relevant this year. I'm saying Brown got the best situation out of all the rookies this year, redraft and keeper included. Moreno's my #2 in terms of redraft behind Brown, and #3 in terms of keeper behind Brown and McCoy.

Because it's a proven way to keep your studs healthy and playing at a stud level, and because that's what Bill Parcells disciples do. Look at Bellicheck, Payton, Coughlin, Sporano, etc. All those teams are RBBC. Obviously Moreno is the most fantasy worthy Denver back, but look at that backfiefld. They all can catch (Arrington, Buckhalter, Joradan), and 2 or 3 of them can handle goal line duty (Jordan, Torrain, not sure who else). Correct me if I'm wrong because I've never watched Moreno play, but I've seen some video on him and he's not exactly a home run threat, he's more of a complete back who relies on strength, athleticism, and great vision rather than pure speed. So he's not a home run threat, he's not your top goal line option, and he's got 3 guys behind him who can steal those important catches. It's not a knock on him, just where he went. I rather have Donald Brown because he's only got Addai in front of him, but honestly I'll still be targetting Moreno, just after a few of those other guys.

Interesting, I was comparing my top 100 players with some other top 100 mocks that I saw and Holt was the only real guy that stood out, I had him as my 70th best player which was 40 spots in front of some other lists that I saw. Guess I'm real high on him this year than most people, I'll have to drop him down my list to get better value.

The worst part is the best running backs from this years crop went to backup roles or time sharing roles (LeSean McCoy, Donald Brown, and Moreno) Regular Drafts: Donald Brown: More likely to split carries evenly than any of the other backs, but I see him finishing the season way better than he starts it. Knowshon Moreno: Starter and will get receptions. Even if one of his fellow RBs gets hurt there's 2 more waiting behind him, while Brown only has Addai to fight off. Chris Wells: More touches than McCoy but less explosive in my opinion. I only take him higher b/c I'm sure McCoy will fall in normal drafts. LeSean McCoy: 10 touches per game max, but will start 3 or 4 games when Westbrook sits out injured. Shonn Greene: Thomas Jones and Leon Washington are too good right now. Only valuable if Jones gets the boot. Keeper: McCoy: Basing this on PPR when Westbrook is gone. Reminds me of Felix Jones and Chris Johnson. Brown Addai is the latest stud RB that got overworked, Brown will take over very soon just like Addai took over for Rhodes. Greene: I'd have him higher but even after Jones is gone in a year or two he's still gotta fight Washington off and that won't be easy. Moreno: We've learned to work with 2 headed RBs in fantasy, but 3 or 4 is just too much touches being stolen. Wells: Just not high on bruiser backs. Reminds me of the Bensons and Ron Daynes. Lowest Ceiling of all of them, but probably the highest floor.

He seems super under-valued to me, the guy had one bad year on a team that was decimated by injuries and played horribly on all sides of the ball. I only watched a couple St Louis games last year and I couldn't really pass judgement on Holt because the ball rarely went his way, or Bulger was busy getting sacked with their horrible Oline. Don't get me wrong I don't think he's worth a round 2-3 pick like he used to be, the guy is 32 years old, but a round 8 or 9? I see him more of a round 5/6 depending how the draft goes. He had 90+ catches from 2002-2007 up until last years huge drop off, which definitely catches my interest considering I'm in a PPR league. Anyone here that watched him play that has any opinions?

Yep. I know it's obvious but I started overthinking letting a stud back into the draft pool, curious on any keeper strategies anyone might have that are diff from regular drafts.

Honestly I can't give advice on the whole finacial aspect of it because I've never been in a league like that. If I had to choose a player to keep out of that whole bunch for a dynasty league it would definitely be Ronnie Brown. Remember two years ago the year he had before he got injured, and now he's 2 years removed from that surgery so I expect him to get back to being a superstud over the next couple years. Problem with Ronnie Brown is that he's in a Bill Parcells offense which will always rely heavily on the 2 back system, so be aware of that, he might never see the carries he saw that one year with Saban. As for immediate impact Westbrook is the best of the bunch but I don't see him lasting longer than 2 or 3 years. Definitely grab LeSean McCoy if you make the trade, and I'd' even grab him if you didnt. He was my favorite running back out of all the rookie RBs taken, he plays way faster than Moreno and is amazing after the catch, sounds perfect for a Westbrook handcuff. Ryan Grant is a player I wouldn't even go near in a draft. Green Bay is a pass first offense now, and how many RBs like him do we see come and go? Mike Anderson, Olandis Gary, Ahman Green, Joseph Addai, Edgerrin James, the list goes on man. IN MY OPINION, he's just another stud RB that got overworked and now he's broken down. Don't get me wrong he might have a bounce back year or two with 1000 yards and 8 or 10 TDs but it won't last trust me. Chad is my biggest question mark. Not only him but you have to consider Carson Palmer a question mark too. He didnt have surgery on his arm and supposedly it's better but who knows. Chad is another guy I stay away from drafts unless he falls really late to me, I rather go with safer options. So anyway you're basically involved in a trade where 3 of the 4 players will be washed up anywhere from 1-3 years with the exception of Ronnie Brown. Johnson will be a temporary fix for you at WR at best IMO.

Don't even hesitate on this trade man. Guys like Slaton who can grab anywhere from 40-70 balls in the air for you are priceless in PPR Leagues. Grab him before the other guy wises up lol

Editted because apparently long posts scare people away from responding lol. I'm new to Keeper Leagues, currently in a 2 man keeper league where in order to keep a player you have to surrender the draft pick that you took him with. Is this standard format? What other formats are there in keeper leagues? Also any heads up strategies to the differences between regular leagues and keeper leagues would be appreciated.