Azazello1313 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 WSJ I still don't really agree with the writer's viewpoint on the issue (which I take to be that abortion should be illegal), but I found it to be extremely powerful writing on a very complex and difficult issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 So I go this far: What is causing the skewed ratio: abortion. It is not abortion causing it. If you believe in the argument that guns don't kill people, people do, then you should also subscribe to abortion (in India, China and all the other third world dumps mentioned) merely being a tool that serves both primitive superstition and ridiculous draconian laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 So I go this far: What is causing the skewed ratio: abortion. It is not abortion causing it. If you believe in the argument that guns don't kill people, people do, then you should also subscribe to abortion (in India, China and all the other third world dumps mentioned) merely being a tool that serves both primitive superstition and ridiculous draconian laws. huh? I don't really get your complaint. I suppose you could argue he ought to be more specific, and say that it's selective abortion causing the skew. it's people finding out what kind of baby they're carrying, preferring males, and selectively aborting females. the superstitions and laws you speak of are well laid out in the review, but none of that that has much to do with the simple fact that the numbers are skewed becase of gender-targeted abortions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 It is not abortion causing it. If you believe in the argument that guns don't kill people, people do, then you should also subscribe to abortion (in India, China and all the other third world dumps mentioned) merely being a tool that serves both primitive superstition and ridiculous draconian laws. huh? I don't really get your complaint. I suppose you could argue he ought to be more specific, and say that it's selective abortion causing the skew. it's people finding out what kind of baby they're carrying, preferring males, and selectively aborting females. the superstitions and laws you speak of are well laid out in the review, but none of that that has much to do with the simple fact that the numbers are skewed becase of gender-targeted abortions. The complaint I have about the article is simple enough. It is missing the point that without the one-child laws, the lack of general civilization, the lack of proper family planning and the backward nature of the people of these third world countries, there would be a whole lot less use of the only tool they have. If not for superstition (including religion), poverty and laws, what other reason is there for gender-targeted abortion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Hideous selfishness and a warped perspective. PS I give up, what religion promotes gender-targeted abortion in any way? Most are just the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polksalet Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Hideous selfishness and a warped perspective. PS I give up, what religion promotes gender-targeted abortion in any way? Most are just the opposite. The theology of atheism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Heard an interview with the author on NPR today...pretty interesting stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted June 23, 2011 Author Share Posted June 23, 2011 The complaint I have about the article is simple enough. It is missing the point that without the one-child laws, the lack of general civilization, the lack of proper family planning and the backward nature of the people of these third world countries, there would be a whole lot less use of the only tool they have. If not for superstition (including religion), poverty and laws, what other reason is there for gender-targeted abortion? what I don't understand is how you think any of that contradicts what the author is saying in any way. he talks about all of these factors influencing the reasons behind selective abortion explicitly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Cid Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 The theology of atheism. This is one time where religion or lack there of, has nothing to do with this. It is primarily a culturally driven phenomenon. There is simply more value to having a male than a female. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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