piratesownninjas Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 OchoCareer Stats more Season Team Receiving Rushing Fumbles G GS Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Att Yds Avg Lng TD FUM Lost 2009 Cincinnati Bengals 16 15 72 1,047 14.5 50 9 3 32 10.7 26 0 2 2 2008 Cincinnati Bengals 13 10 53 540 10.2 26 4 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 2007 Cincinnati Bengals 16 16 93 1,440 15.5 70T 8 6 47 7.8 16 0 2 1 2006 Cincinnati Bengals 16 16 87 1,369 15.7 74T 7 6 24 4.0 8 0 1 1 2005 Cincinnati Bengals 16 16 97 1,432 14.8 70T 9 5 33 6.6 11 0 1 0 2004 Cincinnati Bengals 16 16 95 1,274 13.4 53T 9 4 39 9.8 18 0 1 0 2003 Cincinnati Bengals 16 14 90 1,355 15.1 82T 10 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 2002 Cincinnati Bengals 16 14 69 1,166 16.9 72T 5 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 2001 Cincinnati Bengals 12 3 28 329 11.8 28 1 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- TOTAL 684 9,952 14.5 82 62 24 175 7.3 26 0 7 4 Moss Career Stats more Season Team Receiving Rushing Fumbles G GS Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Att Yds Avg Lng TD FUM Lost 2009 New England Patriots 16 16 83 1,264 15.2 71T 13 -- -- -- -- -- 2 1 2008 New England Patriots 16 16 69 1,008 14.6 76T 11 2 0 0.0 2 0 3 2 2007 New England Patriots 16 16 98 1,493 15.2 65T 23 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 2006 Oakland Raiders 13 13 42 553 13.2 51 3 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 2005 Oakland Raiders 16 15 60 1,005 16.8 79 8 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 2004 Minnesota Vikings 13 13 49 767 15.7 82T 13 -- -- -- -- -- 1 1 2003 Minnesota Vikings 16 16 111 1,632 14.7 72 17 6 18 3.0 11 0 1 1 2002 Minnesota Vikings 16 16 106 1,347 12.7 60 7 6 51 8.5 25 0 1 1 2001 Minnesota Vikings 16 16 82 1,233 15.0 73T 10 3 38 12.7 18 0 -- -- 2000 Minnesota Vikings 16 16 77 1,437 18.7 78T 15 3 5 1.7 9 0 2 0 1999 Minnesota Vikings 16 16 80 1,413 17.7 67T 11 4 43 10.8 15 0 3 3 1998 Minnesota Vikings 16 11 69 1,313 19.0 61T 17 1 4 4.0 4 0 2 1 TOTAL 926 14,465 15.6 82 148 25 159 6.4 25 0 15 10 Obviously, we have to take away years 98 and 99 from Moss and subtract those numbers from his totals. I'm not going to do a lot of math and/or calculate all the averages and stuff, but I think Rec would be 777. Yds is 11,739. TDs is 120 after you take away those two seasons. Moss beats Ocho in all three categories and nearly doubles him up in TDs. I will grant you that Ocho's numbers were better than I initially thought(so perhaps I need to retract the from my original post) but I think you also need to take back saying Ocho's numbers are better than Moss' Apologies, instead of better, I would like to use the word more consistant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do Work Son Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Some that might make it..... Offense: Shaun Alexander????,Ocho Cinco,Andre Johnson,Hines Ward Lineman: Larry Allen,Orlando Pace,Kevin Mawae,Jonathan Ogden,Will Shields,Alan Faneca,Steve Hutchinson Defense: Ed Reed,Brian Urlacher,Julius Peppers,Darren Sharper,Brian Dawkins,Ronde Barber,Derrick Brooks I wasnt gonna rename all the players that KPHolmes already put out there....I was just adding on to his list....But I actually think Chad-Ocho-Cinco-Johnson has a pretty good shot to make the team depending on how many recievers they plan on having....Obviously Moss and Owens are easy choices at WR...BTW I actually forgot all about Tory Holt, great pick IMO. Im guessing it'll be 5-6 recievers...This is where I rank them. 1) Randy Moss 2) Terrell Owens 3) Marvin Harrison 4) Tory Holt 5) Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson 6) Hines Ward Hope im not forgetting any1..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menudo Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 AFC North All-Decade Team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menudo Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Peter King's list looks pretty good to me: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 I wasnt gonna rename all the players that KPHolmes already put out there....I was just adding on to his list....But I actually think Chad-Ocho-Cinco-Johnson has a pretty good shot to make the team depending on how many recievers they plan on having....Obviously Moss and Owens are easy choices at WR...BTW I actually forgot all about Tory Holt, great pick IMO. Im guessing it'll be 5-6 recievers...This is where I rank them. 1) Randy Moss 2) Terrell Owens 3) Marvin Harrison 4) Tory Holt 5) Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson 6) Hines Ward Hope im not forgetting any1..... Not sure Marvin deserves to be on the list. I initially thought he did, but he did his damage in the mid to late 90's then the first have of the decade in question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do Work Son Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Not sure Marvin deserves to be on the list. I initially thought he did, but he did his damage in the mid to late 90's then the first have of the decade in question. in this decade 7 1,000 + yd seasons 7 seasons with 10+ tds From 2000-2006 his receptions were 102,109,143,94,86,82,95 What is in question about these stats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 (edited) in this decade 7 1,000 + yd seasons 7 seasons with 10+ tds From 2000-2006 his receptions were 102,109,143,94,86,82,95 What is in question about these stats? Years 2007, 2008, 2009. Nevermind on me trying to have a discussion, you guys get too worked up. We should all just get in one line and say the exact same thing. Edited January 30, 2010 by piratesownninjas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpholmes Posted January 30, 2010 Author Share Posted January 30, 2010 Peter King's list looks pretty good to me: Sorry Menudo. King demonstrates in his comments, his team is more of a "Madden Like" team, where he isn't basing it solely on stats but how the players compliment each other. Hence Ward being on the list because of his blocking. Ward has 24 more catches than Terrell Owens in this decade, though Owens has 41 more touchdowns and 1,700 more receiving yards. 41 more TDs. I won't discredit what Hines Ward has done in the past decade, but it's not even a competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do Work Son Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Years 2007, 2008, 2009. Nevermind on me trying to have a discussion, you guys get too worked up. We should all just get in one line and say the exact same thing. Im not worked up at all....You said you questioned his performance in the 1st half of the decade, so I looked up the stats to see your argument...I was just asking what was wrong with those stats....I actually think from 1999-2006 he was in his prime....But yeah if you look at 2007(He was hurt) and 2008(His comeback year) he started to downfall....If they look at the 07-08 season as not being worthy then yea he prolly wont make the list.... Anyways, this is all fun for me...nothing to get mad over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menudo Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 (edited) Sorry Menudo. King demonstrates in his comments, his team is more of a "Madden Like" team, where he isn't basing it solely on stats but how the players compliment each other. Hence Ward being on the list because of his blocking. Ward has 24 more catches than Terrell Owens in this decade, though Owens has 41 more touchdowns and 1,700 more receiving yards. 41 more TDs. I won't discredit what Hines Ward has done in the past decade, but it's not even a competition. I was listening to Sirius NFL radio one time like three years ago, can't remember who it was. They asked this GM if he could take one WR, would it be Terrell Owens or Randy Moss. His answer........Hines Ward. When questioned, he said that 90% of the other GM's in the NFL would do the same. Those who really know the game know that it isn't all about stats, it's about doing what it takes to help your team win, EVERY play of EVERY game. Edited January 30, 2010 by Menudo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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