Denny Green

[junebugz]

I agree. It's crazy.

Why do you automatically assume that "it wasn't simply player execution"? Why is it so unfathomable that ARI's players are really that bad... or that they just played that poorly last night? Let's take a look at the four pivotal plays where the Bears scored their last 21 points...

 

(1) Anderson blows right by the RT, sacks Leinart, and the ball comes loose. Mike Brown picks it up and scores. The RT completely missed Anderson. In fact, he didn't block anybody... he just stood there waiting for somebody to block while his QB was blindsided. Is that his fault? Perhaps. Or was the pass protection scheme the O-coordinator's fault? That possible as well. Blame could go both ways.

 

(2) Urlacher stips Edge and Tillman runs the ball into the endzone. That's all on Edge. He needs to hold onto the ball.

 

(3) Hester runs a punt back 83 yds for a TD. The punt coverage team completely blew it. Could the punt coverage scheme have been flawed? Perhaps, but it's more likely that they were either overpowered by good blocking, missed tackles, or failed to stay in their coverage lanes.

 

(4) Rackers misses a 40-yd FG. At home. In ideal weather. And the snap and hold were right on. Nobody to blame but Rackers.

 

So even if we attribute the failed pass-blocking on the Leinart sack/Bears TD to a bad scheme, the Cards still should've won 23-10. The players flat-out blew it.

 

 

I mean, FIRE DENNY!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[DaFreak]

I agree. It's crazy.

Why do you automatically assume that "it wasn't simply player execution"? Why is it so unfathomable that ARI's players are really that bad... or that they just played that poorly last night? Let's take a look at the four pivotal plays where the Bears scored their last 21 points...

 

(1) Anderson blows right by the RT, sacks Leinart, and the ball comes loose. Mike Brown picks it up and scores. The RT completely missed Anderson. In fact, he didn't block anybody... he just stood there waiting for somebody to block while his QB was blindsided. Is that his fault? Perhaps. Or was the pass protection scheme the O-coordinator's fault? That possible as well. Blame could go both ways.

 

(2) Urlacher stips Edge and Tillman runs the ball into the endzone. That's all on Edge. He needs to hold onto the ball.

 

(3) Hester runs a punt back 83 yds for a TD. The punt coverage team completely blew it. Could the punt coverage scheme have been flawed? Perhaps, but it's more likely that they were either overpowered by good blocking, missed tackles, or failed to stay in their coverage lanes.

 

(4) Rackers misses a 40-yd FG. At home. In ideal weather. And the snap and hold were right on. Nobody to blame but Rackers.

 

So even if we attribute the failed pass-blocking on the Leinart sack/Bears TD to a bad scheme, the Cards still should've won 23-10. The players flat-out blew it.

 

 

I disagree, those plays should have never mattered. Had AZ taken care of business in the second half instead of watching the clock they would have won the game. How do you run the ball 36 times for 57 yards? At what point do you say, "hey, this isnt working and they know exactly what we are going to do, lets try to go back to what was working"? The Bears coaches took heat for Grossman's play and the continual deep play calling and lack of a running game. Do you blame the fact that they didnt score an offensive touchdown on the poor play of Grossman or do you blame the coaches for not mixing it up a little? I certainly think they could have been more effective had they ran more and threw some shorter passes. Players do have to execute but the coaches do too.

Edited October 18, 2006 by DaFreak

[Bill Swerski]

I disagree, those plays should have never mattered. Had AZ taken care of business in the second half instead of watching the clock they would have won the game. How do you run the ball 36 times for 57 yards? At what point do you say, "hey, this isnt working and they know exactly what we are going to do, lets try to go back to what was working"?

 

I think that you take what the Bears defense gives you and if you have a 20-point lead at the end of the third quarter, you play conservatively. If your offensive players can't protect the ball and your special teams aren't competent enough in coverage to hold a 20-point lead over the last 15:05 of the game, your problems are much greater than the play-calling.

 

The Bears coaches took heat for Grossman's play and the continual deep play calling and lack of a running game. Do you blame the fact that they didnt score an offensive touchdown on the poor play of Grossman or do you blame the coaches for not mixing it up a little? I certainly think they could have been more effective had they ran more and threw some shorter passes. Players do have to execute but the coaches do too.

 

I agree that they should've run more early in the game, but Grossman's INTs were the product of piss-poor decision-making on his part. I also give credit to ARI's defense for a very strong showing, stuffing the run late in the game and roughing up the Bears WRs.

Edited October 18, 2006 by Bill Swerski