kdko Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) I'm really high on him, and think he could put up RB1 numbers this year. They spent a first round pick, and are trying to think of any, and every way to get him more touches. He's an elite receiver, has incredible game speed, great vision, and possesses one of the nastiest cuts of any player in the league. His biggest knock right now, is the uncertainty of his ceiling with Cam as his QB. Cam's known to be a ball hog in the red zone, and between the 20's will often run the ball himself in a scramble instead of dump it off. Also, that he only had 1 bench press at the combine, so he might not be strong enough for blocking or stiff arms. Good luck trying to catch this guy in the open field. He won't need to stiff arm when he's breaking ankles. I think there's a strong chance with this revamped offense that a lot of these tendencies of Cam's will look to be changed, and I think this offense is going to want to feature McCaffery. They want a return on their investment. He's the real deal, and NFL ready imo. Besides being a product of eugenics, he's been learning football from his father who was NFL vet of 13 years. I think you can get a return on him in the 3rd round as is, and the upside is going to be there. He's a game changer. I think he'll outperform Fournette (who's ADP is ridiculous), Jeffery, A-Rob, Mixon...all guys going around the same range. Edit: yes, I am Christian McCaffrey Edited August 7, 2017 by kdko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekroot Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Unless they are still using a two back system I'm not buying it. Jonathon Stewart was top 5 rb talent when drafted, but could never get enough touches because of deangelo. I haven't seen top 5 rb numbers since deangelo's 20 td season and Stephen Davis pre-deangelo. This reminds me of Reggie bush/deuce McAllister but in a calm newton run offense that offers few receptions or red zone opportunities for running backs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdko Posted August 7, 2017 Author Share Posted August 7, 2017 59 minutes ago, Rekroot said: Unless they are still using a two back system I'm not buying it. Jonathon Stewart was top 5 rb talent when drafted, but could never get enough touches because of deangelo. I haven't seen top 5 rb numbers since deangelo's 20 td season and Stephen Davis pre-deangelo. This reminds me of Reggie bush/deuce McAllister but in a calm newton run offense that offers few receptions or red zone opportunities for running backs The thing is the McCaffery isn't just a scat back like Reggie Bush. Contrary to what some believe, McCaffrey is a between the tackles runner, with his excellent vision and burst. He showed that in college on the way to breaking all of Barry Sanders' records. Jonathan Stewart has had a very mediocre career, and is not the future of this team. McCaffrey will be liming up all over the field and get plenty of opportunity. I should also state that I exclusively play PPR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdko Posted August 20, 2017 Author Share Posted August 20, 2017 Bump. This kid continues to look great in preseason. The real question is how many touches is he going to see a game? I don't think 7-9 runs, and 6 targets a game is out of the question. In fact, I think that's the reality. 128 carries over the season, and 96 targets. I'd venture to say 70 receptions, for 700 yards, and 120 carries for 600 yards. 8 TD's. 248 fantasy points. That would have put him at about 38th overall last year in PPR, and 8th among RB's. Buy this guy in the third round! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelredd9 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 McCaffrey is looking good. I want to like him. I've been convinced that he might be a real running back, not just a gadget player. But he is in a horrible situation. Jonathan Stewart is the starting running back. While Stewart might just be average at running the ball at this point, he is still the best pass protecting running back in the NFL. And the preservation of Cam Newton's health is of paramount importance. Maybe Carolina will figure out some creative ways to get McCaffrey on the field and the ball in his hands. Maybe Cam will learn to embrace the short passing game. Maybe Stewart will get hurt. Lots of maybes, little that is definitive. It would require a lot of faith to use a third round pick on a player who projects to only be a part-time player this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever in debt to mo lewis Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 (edited) i have pick 21 in a 12 teamer in the 2nd round....im weighing mccaffrey heavily now there....if he even makes it that far...draft its next tuesday..... regardless of who else is there..i find it hard to believe you spend that high of a pick on an offensive player like that if you dont plan to feature him from the get go all i keep hearing is how basically no linebacker can cover him...then u saw that catch he had where he was basically going to break left or right on a linebacker...and that backer basically had to guess and he guessed wrong and mccaffrey was wideeeeee open.....there is no way to keep this guy off the field..... Edited August 20, 2017 by forever in debt to mo lewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelredd9 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 (edited) Here are Christian McCaffrey's week 2 plays. He is a quick sumafabitch. Maybe I'll have to rethink what his role will be. Talent does find a way to get on the field. Edited August 20, 2017 by michaelredd9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyrckstar Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 He reminds of some Danny Woodhead or Darian Sproles with not being the biggest guy but versatile, fast and quick decision making. Not sure the touches will be there for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdko Posted August 21, 2017 Author Share Posted August 21, 2017 3 hours ago, indyrckstar said: He reminds of some Danny Woodhead or Darian Sproles with not being the biggest guy but versatile, fast and quick decision making. Not sure the touches will be there for him. Where else will the targets be going? They spent the 8th overall pick on him. McCaffrey is going to be the guy between the 20's. I don't see how they get him less than 15 touches a game. He's a difference maker on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyrckstar Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 23 hours ago, kdko said: Where else will the targets be going? They spent the 8th overall pick on him. McCaffrey is going to be the guy between the 20's. I don't see how they get him less than 15 touches a game. He's a difference maker on the field. Agreed on seems like being a difference maker. I hope he gets that many touches (Panther fan). My guess is it will be a mix of carries for him, Newton and Stewart. Christian being used in passing game will help his value in PPR leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdko Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, indyrckstar said: Agreed on seems like being a difference maker. I hope he gets that many touches (Panther fan). My guess is it will be a mix of carries for him, Newton and Stewart. Christian being used in passing game will help his value in PPR leagues. And I think the passing game is where he's going to shine. I truly think he is the best receiver on their team, K-Benj included. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever in debt to mo lewis Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 im actually kind of shocked at the huddles refusal to endorse mccaffrey right now....have him at 51 in the top 200 ppr....if i was playing in a league with guys following the huddles rankings i would laugh all the way to the bank youve got cook at 21...and mccaffrey at 51....what am i missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdko Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 37 minutes ago, forever in debt to mo lewis said: im actually kind of shocked at the huddles refusal to endorse mccaffrey right now....have him at 51 in the top 200 ppr....if i was playing in a league with guys following the huddles rankings i would laugh all the way to the bank youve got cook at 21...and mccaffrey at 51....what am i missing? No idea, I'm kind of perplexed by it too. This guy is the most exciting player of the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyrckstar Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 16 minutes ago, kdko said: No idea, I'm kind of perplexed by it too. This guy is the most exciting player of the draft. Curious, what's your ranking to the 5 rookie RBs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdko Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 14 minutes ago, indyrckstar said: Curious, what's your ranking to the 5 rookie RBs? Since I only play PPR, and based on my projections for this year: McCaffrey Cook Fournette Mixon Hunt 6-10: Cohen Perine Williams Foreman Kamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyrckstar Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Ahh, my league doesn't use PPR. I can see why you have McCaffrey higher than myself. Fournette is dropping some. Terrible QB play is going to hurt his value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 On 8/7/2017 at 1:05 PM, kdko said: Jonathan Stewart has had a very mediocre career, You should really look closely at his yearly stat lines before making an outrageously false statement. I can point you to PFF if you need help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdko Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, tazinib1 said: You should really look closely at his yearly stat lines before making an outrageously false statement. I can point you to PFF if you need help. Why waste my time? I know what I said, and I meant it. He's finished only 3 full seasons out of 9, and only finished above 1,000 yards once. He's been employed this long simply because he can block. Mediocre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZRdude Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I like the ceiling for him, looks like they'll try and get him the ball alot... ill take him as a flex player bc of that but im still hesistant bc he is a rookie. 4-5th round is where i think he should be drafted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 lol...employed only because he can block. Gotcha lmao. And yeah...don't waste your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdko Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, tazinib1 said: And yeah...don't waste your time. Noted. If you can't string an original thought together to defend your asinine point and instead try to blindly redirect me elsewhere for someone else to do so, you're doing nothing but wasting mine and everyone else's time. A+ posting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 1 minute ago, kdko said: Noted. If you can't string an original thought together to defend your asinine point and instead try to blindly redirect me elsewhere for someone else to do so, you're doing nothing but wasting mine and everyone else's time. A+ posting Well if you've followed along, which I doubt with your whimsical humor as evidence, I'm pretty sure I'm wasting nobody's time. Matter of fact, I'm wasting my time replying to you. First "block" of the season. Congrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfarst79 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 1 hour ago, kdko said: 6-10: Cohen Perine Williams Foreman Kamara Do you really feel Kamara is that low? especially in PPR, I know he is buried in a deep offense, but I think he will be a huge contributor. not saying 1-5 but definitely closer to 6 than 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdko Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 Just now, Cfarst79 said: Do you really feel Kamara is that low? especially in PPR, I know he is buried in a deep offense, but I think he will be a huge contributor. not saying 1-5 but definitely closer to 6 than 10. I feel like Ingram is too gifted in running and receiving to stay off the field despite Payton hating him, and they'll want to get their mileage out of AP given his contract. I feel like Cadet is going to be the odd man out before the season starts, and Kamara will pick up his workload (50 or so targets, a handful of runs). I think he's amazing as a dynasty pick, but this isn't his year for redraft. I feel like he might have the hardest ladder to climb than any other RB on that list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfarst79 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I agree he definitely has the hardest ladder to climb, he's only an injury or two away from grabbing a huge opportunity. Both backs ahead have had there share of injuries. Definitely a dynasty grab ahead of the other backs listed though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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