ClayMC Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 I asked earlier this week about trading Kamara and got an overwhelming "hell no" response. But i'm a victim of reading too much into "expert" opinions and nearly every site I read projects Kamara to be only slightly, if any, more valuable than Elliot moving forward. I'm looking to cash in by selling Kamara at peak value for Gronk insurance and some WR depth (which I'm hoping to use to improve my RB2 situation). I send: Kamara, Edelman I receive: Elliot, Green, Njoku I have no idea if i can get any traction on the above trade, but i think i might be able to sell the other manager on it. Before I risk it though, i'm asking you guys again, am i crazy for considering trading Kamara? 12-team PPR QB: Brees (Winston) WR: Hopkins, Jones, Landry (Edelman, Callaway) RB: Kamara, Howard (Thompson, Ingram, Lindsay) TE: Gronk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingo Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 I mean, Ingram is going to eat into his timeshare a bit now that he's back, but he will still be a beast for the remainder of the season. I will say you are not crazy, although in a PPR league Edelman is pretty valuable. It's a tough call, but I'd probably stand pat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClayMC Posted October 4, 2018 Author Share Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Bingo said: I mean, Ingram is going to eat into his timeshare a bit now that he's back, but he will still be a beast for the remainder of the season. I will say you are not crazy, although in a PPR league Edelman is pretty valuable. It's a tough call, but I'd probably stand pat. That's what's tough about the decision. Kamara is going to be a beast regardless. But being a top-2 back and a top-8 back are two very different things, especially when i have a decent amount of confidence that Elliot will continue to be a top-5 back. Elliot has the higher floor, Kamara the higher ceiling, but i think the most probable outcome is that they end up about even in overall value moving forward. Edited October 4, 2018 by ClayMC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana is da Man Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 You're getting good value back butninwoukdnt want to trade Kamara and edelman in a ppr league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikings>Packers Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Sounds like you didn't get the response you wanted on your first post, which means your gut tells you to trade Kamara. You might as well do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seahawk3133 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 I would do that deal even though Njoku is a cut for you.. You are getting a top 5 RB & a top 5 WR for Kamara and a huge unknown who even in his great season 2 years ago - only scored 3 TDs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Standard Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 I don't know how anybody trades Kamara. Ingram isn't gonna hurt him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClayMC Posted October 4, 2018 Author Share Posted October 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, seahawk3133 said: I would do that deal even though Njoku is a cut for you.. You are getting a top 5 RB & a top 5 WR for Kamara and a huge unknown who even in his great season 2 years ago - only scored 3 TDs this is more in line with my thought process, and Njoku isn't even a cut for me. With Gronk banged up, Njoku is very rosterable. TE is insanely thin in my league. The best FA options are Seals-Jones and Clay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClayMC Posted October 4, 2018 Author Share Posted October 4, 2018 Just now, Gold Standard said: I don't know how anybody trades Kamara. Ingram isn't gonna hurt him. I don't know how this can be said with any sort of confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Standard Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 minute ago, ClayMC said: I don't know how this can be said with any sort of confidence. Hey Al. We know you've been the MVP of the league so far but, you know, Ingram is back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClayMC Posted October 4, 2018 Author Share Posted October 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Gold Standard said: Hey Al. We know you've been the MVP of the league so far but, you know, Ingram is back. Hey Al, We know you've been the MVP of the league, so we're going to do whatever we can to keep you healthy, even if it means playing you less in low-leverage situations. I'm not suggesting Kamara splits 50/50 with Ingram. But to say Ingram will have no effect on Kamara's output is ridiculous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasandmnm Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 I do this trade, you get two guys you are going to start every week and a backup TE that is possibly on the come up. You obviously want to do the deal but are unsure, if your guy tells you to do it then do it. Sure Kamara is still going to perform but Ingram is definitely getting a piece of his pie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starkers Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 We don't know what Ingram will do to Kamara's production. We don't know how Edelman will do in this years Patriot's offense. W do know how Zeke fits into the Cowboy's offense. We know where Green fits into the Bengal's offense. So, I think you do this trade if you want to go with the known. If you are happy with going with the unknown which may have a higher upside stand pat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClayMC Posted October 4, 2018 Author Share Posted October 4, 2018 + 3 hours ago, starkers said: We don't know what Ingram will do to Kamara's production. We don't know how Edelman will do in this years Patriot's offense. W do know how Zeke fits into the Cowboy's offense. We know where Green fits into the Bengal's offense. So, I think you do this trade if you want to go with the known. If you are happy with going with the unknown which may have a higher upside stand pat. I'm fairly risk averse. I think that's what's driving this feeling of needing to make this trade. If Elliot was 100% healthy, it would have already been done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorThinksHeKnowsFantasy Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, ClayMC said: + I'm fairly risk averse. I think that's what's driving this feeling of needing to make this trade. If Elliot was 100% healthy, it would have already been done. I think he just has soreness man nothing serious & it should not threaten his work load although they may not be as heavy on him going forward as last week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seahawk3133 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 I am worried more about the Saints defense suddenly becoming the 85 Bears and they go to a ultra-conservative offense than I am of Kamara being hurt a ton by Ingram (I have Kamara in my league). But I still would make the trade - it is too much value to pass up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copeingwithfailure Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Am I the only one who thinks Ingram makes Kamara better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemonster Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 22 minutes ago, Copeingwithfailure said: Am I the only one who thinks Ingram makes Kamara better? I think he improves his longevity, which indirectly may produce more points. I think he minorly goes down per game. But we will have to see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roamingbull Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 In real life, managers change up from what's working, then loose all the time. I never get it. They have a stud, rack up yards and scores, then... aliens take over their brain, they stop using the winning plan... and loose. My point, keep that monster in your line up, and win. Find another way to build on your week areas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbinator Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 New Orleans offense is so much better than Dallas. I don't see that changing this season. Kamara will have more weeks than Zeke where he singlehandedly wins your matchups. Like last week. And with Kamara's receiving yardage, his floor is usually going to be close to 100 rush/receiving yards. Too valuable to trade IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemonster Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) I looked at this trade again. It being PPR does change things a bit and you have Landry who is great in PPR and an iffy RB core without Kamara. I may have to say I wouldn't do this trade, but it may not end up being bad for you. Edited October 4, 2018 by purplemonster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClayMC Posted October 5, 2018 Author Share Posted October 5, 2018 the whole thing is really the first step in a process to try to improve my RB2 situation. I'm trying to sell Kamara at what I feel is his peak value to gain the capital i need to make a push for a mid-level RB1 to play in my RB2 slot. It's probably more of a Kamara/Howard vs. Elliot/McCaffrey discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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