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Well another decent week at 2-1 bringing my posted plays to 5-1

Including a 2-team parley week 1 & an under dog money line win week 2.

When you can hit those money line wagers on an under dog, even a 3pt under dog at +130

It really makes a big difference in your $$ percentage win.

 

Anyway on to this week and why I took the I started this post early.

Opening lines can change quick and I believe I have found one that is going to move by 1 to 2 points this week. Tenn is getting 3pts and that is my play. I may be way off but I think I have found another game where they have the wrong team favored. So If you are going to take Tenn this week you should get on them now before the line starts to move.

 

This week

 

Tenn +3

GB -6.5

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Tennessee as an underdog did catch my eye... I'll have to look into that a little more. The two plays I have already made for week three are as follows:

 

Baltimore -13

So far, Baltimore's defense has looked a bit shaky at times through two weeks, but they've still managed to cover the spread both weeks. This week, facing Cleveland at home, is the week that I expect the Ravens to "right the ship" and blow out the Browns. Questions have already started to arise regarding the Browns choice at QB, and whether they will stick with Quinn. I don't think it matters... I think Baltimore wins this by 2+ touchdowns easily.

 

Detroit + 6.5

I had to think twice about betting on a team with a 19-game losing streak, but here are my thoughts on this game... The general consensus last week was that Washington had no business being favored by 9+ points against anybody. The Redskins' play on the field, along with their questionable play-calling, may have proven the critics to be correct. Washington may not be one of the worst teams in the NFL, but through the first two weeks, they've played like they are. The Lions, on the other hand, have been competitive (at least at times) in both of their games so far. Even though they have started 0-2, they appear to be a very different team than the one that went winless all of last season. It may not happen this week, but I expect the Lions to break their losing streak fairly soon (two of their next three home games are vs. STL and CLE). Once again, I don't understand the reasoning behind the Skins being such a significant favorite in this game... they have no business being favored by almost a TD against anyone, particuarly on the road. I like the Lions chances of staying within the six points.

 

Like MOBD, I got on these two early, as I could see the lines moving throughout the week... Baltimore won't be nearly as nice of a play if it reaches 14+, and I think the 6.5 points for Detroit is a good number in that I could very easily see them losing a 20-14 or 23-17 game. I think that's worst-case scenario for the Lions this week... they could keep it within a FG, and it wouldn't surprise me at all to see them pull out a win against the struggling Redskins.

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MOBD, you stealing Koy Runner's thunder by starting the thread this week? :wacko: If so, you should post the lines you are looking at so everyone is working off the same numbers, IMO.

 

I was the first to give y'all the Falcons & Vikes last week, so I'll try to continue the perfect streak (3-0, was 1st to post New Orleans week 1). This week I am going away from the favorites and taking a dog. From what I see, the opening line on the Pats/Falcons game was Pats -5, and am seeing the current number is between 4-5. I will welcome those pts with open arms, and would definitely consider jumping on the Falcons on the ML as well. The Falcons have looked pretty good all-around on offense these first two weeks. Sure Carolina's D doesn't appear to be as good as it once was, but Miami's Defense is still better than average and the Falcons put up some good numbers. Turner & White had better games Week 2, and Gonzo & Ryan continued their solid play. On the other side of the ball, NE's defense isn't very good - at all, IMO. Yeah they held the Jets in check, but it's a rookie QB w/o any real playmakers. Trent Edwards had his way with the Pats in Week 1. The Pats D just flat-out isn't all that imposing. Plus, the NE offense just hasn't clicked...yet. And if Welker is out again, I doubt they will this week. Heck, even if Welker plays, I don't see how NE can manage to win the game by more than 4, if they manage to win at all. I'll take the Falcons and the points. Thank you, may I please have another!!

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Yeah... Living out here and listening to Giants (baseball) and Niners sports radio on a daily basis, they've kind of become my adopted 2nd teams, I guess you could say. Not that I root for them, necessarily, but it's pretty much impossible for me not to follow them rather closely... sometimes even more closely than the Twins/Vikings.

 

I will say this... A lot of people were not very impressed with Singletary last year. He received a lot of attention over the dropping pants in the locker room thing, and critics made him out to be a joke. But, he's quickly turned around the entire mentality of this team. I think they've turned it around, 180 degrees, in several different aspects... the first thing was the discipline level, and getting players used to the idea that it was going to be Mike's way or the highway. Vernon Davis was the perfect example of that. At the same time, he was "repairing" the fact that they had been improperly molded into a pass-first offense, with the personnel that didn't necessarily fit that scheme. Mike Martz may be considered an offensive genius in some circles, but it really didn't fit the pieces that they had in place here... not to mention, turnovers went through the roof.

 

Now, they not only have found a sort of self-identity in that they're a run-first, pass when necessary, team... they've also found a way for their defense to keep them in ball games. What was once considered a very mediocre secondary is playing fairly well right now. The defensive line still has some question marks (will they be able to put more pressure on QB's than they did last year), but so far, they've been successful as an overall defense.

 

The defense playing well, along with the offense's ability to avoid turning the ball over, has really helped raise the confidence level of the team as well. They no longer have to wonder if Martz's scheme is going to cause another four-interception game from J.T. O'Sullivan, or whether their secondary is going to get picked apart week in and week out. So, they now have the scheme/system in place for them to be successful, as well as the confidence of a winning team... it just becomes a question of whether or not they have the overall talent level to be successful. As I've mentioned in other threads, looking at their schedule, I could see them going 9-7 or maybe even 10-6. We will see, though... it's still really early in the season, and anything can/will happen.

 

Sunday should be interesting... The Vikings thrive on forcing turnovers and getting the crowd involved at home. If Hill (who I happen to think is a very underrated leader at the QB position) can limit his mistakes and manage the offense without giving the Vikings extra possessions by turning it over, I think the Niners have a very good shot at keeping it close, or even possibly winning the game. That's a big "IF" though, and I don't know if I'm quite ready to lay money on whether or not they'll be able to do so. It will definitely be an interesting game... it also happens to be the only matchup of the week between two 2-0 teams. :wacko:

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MOBD, you stealing Koy Runner's thunder by starting the thread this week? :wacko: If so, you should post the lines you are looking at so everyone is working off the same numbers, IMO.

 

I was the first to give y'all the Falcons & Vikes last week, so I'll try to continue the perfect streak (3-0, was 1st to post New Orleans week 1). This week I am going away from the favorites and taking a dog. From what I see, the opening line on the Pats/Falcons game was Pats -5, and am seeing the current number is between 4-5. I will welcome those pts with open arms, and would definitely consider jumping on the Falcons on the ML as well. The Falcons have looked pretty good all-around on offense these first two weeks. Sure Carolina's D doesn't appear to be as good as it once was, but Miami's Defense is still better than average and the Falcons put up some good numbers. Turner & White had better games Week 2, and Gonzo & Ryan continued their solid play. On the other side of the ball, NE's defense isn't very good - at all, IMO. Yeah they held the Jets in check, but it's a rookie QB w/o any real playmakers. Trent Edwards had his way with the Pats in Week 1. The Pats D just flat-out isn't all that imposing. Plus, the NE offense just hasn't clicked...yet. And if Welker is out again, I doubt they will this week. Heck, even if Welker plays, I don't see how NE can manage to win the game by more than 4, if they manage to win at all. I'll take the Falcons and the points. Thank you, may I please have another!!

 

Hey Sailor! New in town???? The patsies are GIVING points? As bad as their D has looked and as good as the ATL pass rush has looked? I'll take the Falcons all day. I think they win that outright.

 

ETA - love Dorey's filters... :D

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MOBD, you stealing Koy Runner's thunder by starting the thread this week? :wacko: If so, you should post the lines you are looking at so everyone is working off the same numbers, IMO.

Here is what I have from Sportsbook:

 

Titans(Tennessee) +3 Jets(NewYork) 37

Browns(Cleveland) +13 Ravens(Baltimore) 38.5

Giants(NewYork) -7 Buccaneers(TampaBay) 44

Jaguars(Jacksonville) +3.5 Texans(Houston) 46.5

49ers(SanFrancisco) +7 Vikings(Minnesota) 40.5

Falcons(Atlanta) +4 Patriots(NewEngland) 44

Redskins(Washington) -6.5 Lions(Detroit) 38.5

Packers(GreenBay) -6.5 Rams(StLouis) 41

Bears(Chicago) -2.5 Seahawks(Seattle) 37

Saints(NewOrleans) -5.5 Bills(Buffalo) 52.5

Steelers(Pittsburgh) -4 Bengals(Cincinnati) 37

Broncos(Denver) +1 Raiders(Oakland) 36

Dolphins(Miami) +6 Chargers(SanDiego) 43

Colts(Indianapolis) +2 Cardinals(Arizona) 48

Panthers(Carolina) +9 Cowboys(Dallas) 46

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MOBD, you stealing Koy Runner's thunder by starting the thread this week? :wacko: If so, you should post the lines you are looking at so everyone is working off the same numbers, IMO.

 

Finger wagging isn't necessary and an FYI - it was DRE's thread for the past several years that Koy Runner started this year much for the same reason I started it this week. I believed that there was a play available that may not of been available tomorrow.

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You might want to re-read my post WV. I am fully aware NE is favored...

 

- "this week I am going away from the favorites and taking a dog"

 

-"from what I see the opening line was Pats -5"

 

-"I'll take the Falcons & the points"

 

 

Umm, who's new in town?? :wacko:

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Finger wagging isn't necessary and an FYI - it was DRE's thread for the past several years that Koy Runner started this year much for the same reason I started it this week. I believed that there was a play available that may not of been available tomorrow.

 

 

I was just joking, MOBD. Not meant as an attack, or insult.

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You might want to re-read my post WV. I am fully aware NE is favored...

 

- "this week I am going away from the favorites and taking a dog"

 

-"from what I see the opening line was Pats -5"

 

-"I'll take the Falcons & the points"

 

 

Umm, who's new in town?? :wacko:

WV wasn't correcting you... the "Hey Sailer. New in Town???" thing is a language filter. He was actually agreeing with you on taking ATL +5. Hence, the comment about "Dorey's filters."

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Well it's looking like I was way off on the Tenn / Jets line moving 1 to 2pts this week ?

Not only has it been holding steady most are going opposite of the way on their selection.

What I thought was an early week value play hasn't turned out that way.

I still believe that it is a solid play just doesn't have the extra value that of a 1 to 2 point shift in

the spread I was expecting we could get.

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Adding a 6-pt teaser:

 

PHI -1.5

ATL +10.5

 

I think Philly bounces back after last week and beats the Chiefs at home. Doesn't matter who plays QB... they still have far more offensive firepower than KC does. And, considering how NE's offense has struggled so far this season, and their WR's supposedly being banged up, I like the Falcons chances to at least keep the game within single digits.

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I love hypothetical teases, but hate actually making them. But doesn't this 6-point just seem too obvious? RAVENS (-13.5) over Browns, EAGLES (-8.5) over Chiefs, Packers (-6.5) over RAMS. Heck, make it a 4-team by throwing in Saints (-6) over BILLS.

The GB-STL game is just one of those that I could see going in either direction. I tend to try to stay away from games like this, where no result would really be much of a surprise. In other words, GB could bounce back and win easily. On the other hand, they just lost AT HOME to Cincinnati... What makes it a sure thing that they'll play much better on the road? I know St. Louis is really bad (and the Bengals are decent, in comparison), but there are just too many variables that make me wonder about this game... first game at home for the Rams, the Packers' struggles so far through two games (including their inability to protect Rodgers consistently), etc. In fact, I was looking at some 6-pt teaser options myself, and one of the ones I chose to stay away from was GB -0.5... As much as I think they SHOULD win, I'm just not convinced for sure that they will. I guess I just have to see the Packers show a hint of returning to their pre-season form, at least once, before I have any confidence in making a play on them. If I were to pick a road favorite with a similar line for a teaser, I would lean in favor of the NYG -0.5, rather than the Packers.

 

I don't think it's a sure thing that the Saints go into Buffalo and win, either. The Bills have played very well so far... they're one bonehead play away from being 2-0. They've proven they can move the ball, and score some points as well, which is why I would lean towards the over in that game, rather than trying to decide who wins/covers. I like a high-scoring game... maybe even both teams in the 30's. I would not be surprised if this game comes down to a late field goal... It's just hard for me to put $$ on the line, either way, because of how high-scoring I think it will be.

 

FWIW, I like the other two you mentioned... BAL (who I think will cover the -13) and PHI (should cover the -2.5, although I got them at -1.5).

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Week 3 is finally here, bringing with it a lot of very interesting match-ups. After doing my usual routine throughout the week to decide which plays I like and narrow them down, I wound up with a few more plays then I expected. Although a couple of these have the looks of traps and it makes a a little nervous, I'm going to go ahead and ride them and hope for the best. When everything is said and done, I just can't make a case for why they shouldn't be a play, and if I think I see value there I'm going to take it. I'd be stunned if I saw another undefeated week, so please don't take these plays and throw them into parlays and hope for the best. This is a much tighter set of lines then in Week 1. As usual, I recommend just flat betting these plays and looking ahead to where you want to be at the end of the season, rather than where you want to be after this week. So, here are the plays I'm looking at for this week:

 

* New York Giants -6.5

 

The only way I see the Giants losing this game or failing to cover is if they suffer a letdown after their dramatic win over the Cowboys last week. However, this hasn't been characteristic of the Giants' teams of the past couple years. The last two seasons, when the Giants have been coming off of a win against a division opponent, and faced a non-division opponent the next week, they've still cruised, going 3-0 and winning by just under 20 ppg (Against the Rams and Ravens last year, and the Jets in 2007). Against a terrible Tampa team, I'll trust that this team has similar character to the teams of years past and doesn't suffer the letdown I'm slightly worried about. I expect the Giants to roll over the Bucs, cruising to a win by at least two touchdowns.

 

* Pittsburgh/Cincinnati UNDER 37

 

For the first time in a while, the Bengals look like they have a good defense. A big part of their success shutting down the Green Bay attack was the constant pressure they had on Rogers, and the Steelers' offensive line isn't much better. The Steelers have already surrendered 6 sacks in two games, while Cincinnati has pummeled their opponents for 9 sacks in two games. With the running game struggling, the Steelers will likely be a little more throw heavy, giving the Bengals more chances to get to Big Ben. With their QB under constant pressure, the Steelers shouldn't be able to put many good drives together, keeping their point total down.

 

As far as the Bengals' offense goes, I don't expect much better points wise. Their yards per pass and rush attempt are nothing spectacular, and Pittsburgh has absolutely slammed the door on the run so far this year. I expect the Bengals will still try, but they'll eventually have to turn to an inconsistent Palmer to try to get them to score. This should stay a low scoring affair, with both teams struggling to get in the end zone and coming away with a lot of field goals. I expect a 20-16 type of game at the highest.

 

* Chicago Bears -2

 

It took me a while to warm up to this game, but I simply cannot ignore all of the injuries plaguing the Seahawks right now. Hasselbeck is unlikely to play, and Wallace should struggle against a Bears defense that has been effective against the pass so far (6th in the league in yards per pass attempt). The Seahawks also will likely struggle running the ball, setting them up in must throw situations and playing into the Bears' hands. On offense, I expect the Bears to work hard to get the RB Matt Forte going, who has been shut down thus far. Against a Seattle defense that has injury problems and got shredded last week by the 49ers, I wouldn't be surprised to see success out of Forte finally. Once the run game is established, the Bears can let Cutler loose and put it away. Bears should take this one by a touchdown.

 

* Denver Broncos -1

* Denver/Oakland UNDER 36.5

 

Denver finds themselves in a position to start 3-0, something few could have predicted. Although the Raiders' defense has looked good so far this year, their offense has been absolutely abysmal. Russel has played very inconsistent, seeming to wake up for only the fourth quarter each week. Meanwhile, despite keeping the Chiefs to very few points last week, Oakland got dominated in total yardage. Their defense managed to do the job and get the Chiefs off the field, but I think that the Broncos are a team much more equipped to take advantage of scoring opportunities that come their way. Also, despite Oakland's struggle to rack up yards thus far, they've done a great job turning the yards into points. This however meets with the strength of the Denver defense, who is best in the league right now at keeping yardage from being converted into points. The Raiders' offense isn't much better than the Browns' right now, and Denver should have no problem keeping Oakland's point total in single digits. I see Denver scoring anywhere from 14-24 points, while Oakland struggles to find the right side of 10.

 

* Houston Texans -3.5

* Houston/Jacksonville OVER 47

 

I've flip flopped on this game all week, unable to decide if I wanted to make it a play or not. Houston seems to have the clear advantage here, and the line seems like it should be more in the neighborhood of Houston -7. However, we find ourselves facing a line of just 3.5 points, and we must wonder if we're walking into a trap with this one. I don't necessarily believe that Vegas sets lines with the purpose of trapping people, I think we just create the traps ourselves. Right now everyone is impressed with Houston's gutty come from behind win, with thoughts of Schaub's 4 touchdowns still fresh in their minds. Meanwhile, the Jaguars had an underwhelming effort against Arizona, and got thrown all over for the second game in a row. If I had to guess why this line was so low, I'd assume that Vegas expects it to be a high scoring affair with MJD having a monster day. Houston's pass and run defense are absolutely abysmal, giving up 7.4 yards per pass attempt, and 6.32 yards per rush attempt. Not all of those rushing numbers are because of Chris Johnson either, the Jets tore them up on the ground in Week 1 as well.

 

This game reminds me of the Week 1 Saints vs. Lions game, I have a very similar feeling on it. I'm confident that the points will be there on the Texans' end, if they fell short of 27 I'd be very surprised, they may even go over that. On the Jacksonville end, we know that they're going against a Texans' defense that has been very bad lately, and the opportunity for them to put up points sure appears to be there. If this game goes over, it'll be because Jacksonville did scored on their end and potentially covered. If it goes under, it's probably because the Texans' defense bore down and they blew out the Jags. I think this is another great situation where worst case scenario has us eating a little juice and going 1-1, with a very good possibility of the total going over and the Texans covering anyways, giving us a 2-0 record for this game.

 

I may come back with a Monday Night Football play, I'm strongly considering it right now. If I do make a play I'll send out an email Monday afternoon. Good luck this week guys, hopefully we find ourselves with a profit for a third week in a row!

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1-1

 

Titans played like girls last week, so down I went. Seems like the world is conviinced they are the play today - let-down game after the Jets smited the dragon last week - revenge factor from the Jets ruining the Titans win streak last year - Titans desperate. Yeah, logically it all adds up to a Titans win. But the way that Jets defense is playing I have serious doubts that the Titans can escape with a win. I won't be playing that game, but I do not feel good about the Titans this week as just about everybody else is.

 

My pick is the Cardinals -2.5. The Colts defense spent most of Monday night chasing the Dophins around their humidity soaked heat-tank. So they go on a short week, across the country, from tropical heat to desert heat, with a worn out defense. Granted, the Cardinals will come nowhere near the clock control the Dophins displayed, but it probably won't matter much. This is a horrible spot for the Colts, and while I think they are the superior team here without question, it is hard for me to imagine the Colts pulling this off. The spread is 2.5, I think the Colts could easily get blown out in this one so I feel real good about dropping less than a FG.

 

Cardinals -2.5 Bank.

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Titans played like girls last week, so down I went. Seems like the world is conviinced they are the play today - let-down game after the Jets smited the dragon last week - revenge factor from the Jets ruining the Titans win streak last year - Titans desperate. Yeah, logically it all adds up to a Titans win. But the way that Jets defense is playing I have serious doubts that the Titans can escape with a win. I won't be playing that game, but I do not feel good about the Titans this week as just about everybody else is.

 

My pick is the Cardinals -2.5. The Colts defense spent most of Monday night chasing the Dophins around their humidity soaked heat-tank. So they go on a short week, across the country, from tropical heat to desert heat, with a worn out defense. Granted, the Cardinals will come nowhere near the clock control the Dophins displayed, but it probably won't matter much. This is a horrible spot for the Colts, and while I think they are the superior team here without question, it is hard for me to imagine the Colts pulling this off. The spread is 2.5, I think the Colts could easily get blown out in this one so I feel real good about dropping less than a FG.

 

Cardinals -2.5 Bank.

I believe I read that the Colts are missing a couple of significant parts in their secondary as well... I like the Cardinals also.

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I put a small amount on two additional teasers:

 

7 Point Teaser

49ers(SanFrancisco) +14

JAC/HOU Over 40.5

WAS/DET Over 32.5

Jets(NewYork) +6

 

6 Point Teaser

Vikings(Minnesota) -1

Giants(NewYork) -0.5

Packers(GreenBay) -0.5

 

Yes, I went both ways on the SF/MIN game... I liked the Niners' chances of keeping it close BEFORE Gore went out on a cart. Coffee is dinged up as well... we'll see. They may still be able to keep it within 14 if their WR's can make some plays downfield.

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Couldn't have been more dead on with these two, unless I had picked Detroit to win straight up:

 

Baltimore -13

So far, Baltimore's defense has looked a bit shaky at times through two weeks, but they've still managed to cover the spread both weeks. This week, facing Cleveland at home, is the week that I expect the Ravens to "right the ship" and blow out the Browns. Questions have already started to arise regarding the Browns choice at QB, and whether they will stick with Quinn. I don't think it matters... I think Baltimore wins this by 2+ touchdowns easily.

 

Detroit + 6.5

I had to think twice about betting on a team with a 19-game losing streak, but here are my thoughts on this game... The general consensus last week was that Washington had no business being favored by 9+ points against anybody. The Redskins' play on the field, along with their questionable play-calling, may have proven the critics to be correct. Washington may not be one of the worst teams in the NFL, but through the first two weeks, they've played like they are. The Lions, on the other hand, have been competitive (at least at times) in both of their games so far. Even though they have started 0-2, they appear to be a very different team than the one that went winless all of last season. It may not happen this week, but I expect the Lions to break their losing streak fairly soon (two of their next three home games are vs. STL and CLE). Once again, I don't understand the reasoning behind the Skins being such a significant favorite in this game... they have no business being favored by almost a TD against anyone, particuarly on the road. I like the Lions chances of staying within the six points.

 

Just missed here... forgot how "jekyll and hyde" Atlanta gets when they go on the road:

 

Adding a 6-pt teaser:

PHI -1.5

ATL +10.5

 

I think Philly bounces back after last week and beats the Chiefs at home. Doesn't matter who plays QB... they still have far more offensive firepower than KC does. And, considering how NE's offense has struggled so far this season, and their WR's supposedly being banged up, I like the Falcons chances to at least keep the game within single digits.

 

Way off on the NOS/BUF game... Luckily, the post below was just my opinion, and not a play on the game:

 

I don't think it's a sure thing that the Saints go into Buffalo and win, either. The Bills have played very well so far... they're one bonehead play away from being 2-0. They've proven they can move the ball, and score some points as well, which is why I would lean towards the over in that game, rather than trying to decide who wins/covers. I like a high-scoring game... maybe even both teams in the 30's. I would not be surprised if this game comes down to a late field goal... It's just hard for me to put $$ on the line, either way, because of how high-scoring I think it will be.

 

Got a bit lucky on these... barely made the Detroit Over by a half-point, then won the other teaser on the Vikings win. :wacko:

 

I put a small amount on two additional teasers:

 

7 Point Teaser

49ers(SanFrancisco) +14

JAC/HOU Over 40.5

WAS/DET Over 32.5

Jets(NewYork) +6

 

6 Point Teaser

Vikings(Minnesota) -1

Giants(NewYork) -0.5

Packers(GreenBay) -0.5

 

Overall, won both straight wagers, and won 2 out of 3 teasers as well. Felt really strongly about BAL and DET this week (posted them early)... those games seemed to be well in hand from the get-go, which made for an enjoyable day. The Vikings pulling it out on the last play was just icing on the cake. :D

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5-2 today, bringing me to 13-3 ATS YTD!!! Regret that Houston play, I read that game completely wrong. Wish I had listened to my gut on that one that something wasn't quite right. Moving on to Week 4, see you all then!

Great day Kroy! I had a real good day vs the spread but unfortunately ended up playing a few of the games I got wrong. Back to square one, this week has been a wash for me.

 

Tonight I like the Cowboys to bounce back. And I like the over. However, I think I am going teaser on the game with Boys -3 and over 42 just to be "safe."

 

Lots of people seem to like the Panthers with the points, who you got???

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