loyalboyd Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Scott Ferrall had a good point on Sirius, saying that there will probably be 2 reports. The one Mitchell gave to Selig and the one the public will see. If there is a big enough name on the report that means too much to the sport of baseball (like Ortiz or something), it wouldn't surprise me if they were scratched from the list to protect the game. Why they didnt scratch Barry Bonds. Whats the difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 how happy is barry bonds gonna be at 1pm today? takes alot of heat off him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefjay Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 So does all these players get the famous "*****" by their name. If you believe they shouldn't why not? I am curious. Shouldn't everyone get the Barry Bonds treatment if they did steroids period? not for the white players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 i heard the same guy who told mitchell about clemens also implicates pettite and other prominent yankees. if you end up with a lot of teams with several guys fingered, and a lot of teams with no one implicated, it is going to raise the question, is it because some teams happen to be totally clean, or because mitchell couldn't find a snitch within those organizations who would give anyone up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 (edited) "Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafaeil Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton Bradley, David Bell, Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose and Ozzie Canseco, Roger Clemens, Paxton Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenny Dykstra, Johnny Damon, Carl Everett, Kyle Farnsoworth, Ryan Franklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces, Jason Grimsley, Troy Glaus, Juan Gonzalez, Eric Gagne, Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi, from cnbc edit: farnsworth too Edited December 13, 2007 by dmarc117 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefjay Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Say it ain't so Nomar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 "Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafaeil Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton Bradley, David Bell, Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose and Ozzie Canseco, Roger Clemens, Paxton Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenny Dykstra, Johnny Damon, Carl Everett, Kyle Farnsoworth, Ryan Franklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces, Jason Grimsley, Troy Glaus, Juan Gonzalez, Eric Gagne, Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi, not a single name there that surprises me much. i guess if i had to pick one name that is a surprise it would be nomar, since he's always been pretty skinny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controller Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Say it ain't so Nomar. Maybe he needed extra strength 'cause he was porkin' Hamm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 a few more on this list : Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafaeil Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton Bradley, David Bell, Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose and Ozz ie Canseco, Roger Clemens, Paxton Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenny Dykstra, Johnny Damon, Carl Everett, Kyle Farnsoworth, Ryan Franklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces, Jason Grimsley, Troy Glaus, Juan Gonzalez, Eric Gagne, Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi, Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gonzalez, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gonzalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Hairston, Felix Heredia, Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, Darryl Kile, Matt Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Mark McGwire, Guillermo Mota, Robert Machado, Damian Moss, Abraham Nunez, Trot Nixon, Jose Offerman, Andy Pettitte, Mark Prior, Neifi Perez, Rafael Palmiero, Albert Pujols, Brian Roberts, Juan Rincon, John Rocker, Pudge Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa, Scott Sc hoenweiis, David Segui, Alex Sanchez, Gary Sheffield, Miguel Tejada, Julian Tavarez, Fernando Tatis, Maurice Vaughn, Jason Varitek, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams and Kerry Wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controller Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 (edited) Link to CNBC article with list Surprised/saddened to see Albert Pujols on the list. Tejada too. EDIT: The list has been removed from the article, but can be found in dmarc & Az's posts. Edited December 13, 2007 by Controller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 (edited) Link to CNBC article with list just saw it there. some surprises like varitek. barry bonds is laughing right now. Edited December 13, 2007 by dmarc117 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 interesting that they'd accuse a dead guy (kile) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 i am bummed to see pujols on there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 (edited) u guys cant be real... i mean jebus if u could take something that would help u make millions of dollars.... i bet most of you would sosa and big mac saved baseball, that home run race brought people back in... they were juiced to the gills... get over it.... Edited December 13, 2007 by Yukon Cornelius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted December 13, 2007 Author Share Posted December 13, 2007 Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafaeil Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton Bradley, David Bell, Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose and Ozzie Canseco, Roger Clemens, Paxton Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenn y Dykstra, Johnny Damon, Carl Everett, Kyle James A. Finley / AP -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Farnsworth, Ryan Franklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces, Jason Grimsley, Troy Glaus, Juan Gonzalez, Eric Gagne, Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi, Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gonzalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Hairston, Felix Heredia, Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, Darryl Kile, Matt Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Mark McGwire, Guillermo Mota, Robert Machado, Damian Moss, Abraham Nunez, Trot Nixon, Jose Offerman, Andy Pettitte, Mark Prior, Neifi Perez, Rafael Palmiero, Albert Pujols, Brian Roberts, Juan Rincon, John Rocker, Pudge Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa, Scott Sc hoenweiis, David Segui, Alex Sanchez, Gary Sheffield, Miguel Tejada, Julian Tavarez, Fernando Tatis, Maurice Vaughn, Jason Varitek, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams and Kerry Wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbimm Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 None of this surprises me. I am a hugh Albert Pujols fan and am not the least bit surprised to see his name on the list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperCharger Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 u guys cant be real... i mean jebus if u could take something that would help u make millions of dollars.... i bet most of you would sosa and big mac saved baseball, that home run race brought people back in... they were juiced to the gills... get over it.... +1 I never saw what the big deal was. It's not the same as a corked bat or foreign substance on the ball, it's your body. Why does the guberment get to dictate what you can and can't do to YOUR body? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 a lot of red sox on that list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 +1 I never saw what the big deal was. It's not the same as a corked bat or foreign substance on the ball, it's your body. Why does the guberment get to dictate what you can and can't do to YOUR body? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig devilz Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Varitek?...shocked! no A-Rod yet....hmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 1997 Larry Walker, Colorado Rockies, OF Ken Griffey, Jr., Seattle Mariners, OF1998 Sammy Sosa, Chicago Cubs, OF Juan González, Texas Rangers, OF 1999 Chipper Jones, Atlanta Braves, 3B Iván Rodríguez, Texas Rangers, C 2000 Jeff Kent, San Francisco Giants, 2B Jason Giambi, Oakland Athletics, 1B 2001 Barry Bonds, San Francisco Giants, OF Ichiro Suzuki, Seattle Mariners, OF 2002 Barry Bonds, San Francisco Giants, OF Miguel Tejada, Oakland Athletics, SS 2003 Barry Bonds, San Francisco Giants, OF Alex Rodriguez, Texas Rangers, SS 2004 Barry Bonds, San Francisco Giants, OF Vladimir Guerrero, Anaheim Angels, OF 2005 Albert Pujols, St. Louis Cardinals, 1B Alex Rodriguez, New York Yankees, 3B 2006 Ryan Howard, Philadelphia Phillies, 1B Justin Morneau, Minnesota Twins, 1B 2007 Jimmy Rollins, Philadelphia Phillies, SS Alex Rodriguez, New York Yankees, 3B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperCharger Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 ? No, that is my serious opinion. Why can't players take supplements to enhance their body? Why are some supplements illegal and others aren't? Who gets to choose and why? I'm serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperCharger Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Varitek?...shocked! no A-Rod yet....hmmm Not a Yankee fan but I think A-Rod is "clean". He looks natural, like KGJr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig devilz Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 before you get carried away, dont forget this .....who did what and when? Baseball did not have an agreement to ban steroids until September 2002, did not have testing with penalties until 2004 and did not ban HGH until 2005, when it also instituted a suspension for a first positive test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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