Yukon Cornelius Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 ive been cope free for 39 days... WOW and today i only thought of having a chew 9 or 10 times so its getting better.... im 41 started when i was 12... thought it may be time to quite... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaumont Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 (edited) Kodiak at about 2 cans/week. ETA: 18 years now. Gosh, that seems long ... ETA: I quit on and off, but long distance drives by myself do me in every time. I use it to avoid going to sleep at the wheel. Edited February 8, 2008 by Beaumont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Agent Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 There are some clubs where you could make a decent living and satisfy your fixation. NTTAWWT If I throw you a softball, you've got to do better than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted February 8, 2008 Author Share Posted February 8, 2008 If I throw you a softball, you've got to do better than that. it went to the warning track only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrunt Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Grunt, be careful with Chantix. There's some fairly scary side effects that can come from that drug. It is under severe investigation. My wife used to be on my arse about dipping all the time. She made me promise to quit before our son was born...that was 18 months ago and I still dip. It is highly addicting. In my case, it's more of an oral fixation than anything. I don't really get the shakes if I go without nicotine...unless it's right after a meal. I have come very close to drinking my spit before. The beer bottle advice is crucial. Always spit in a water bottle so you can see what's in there. And definitely keep it away from the kids. My son almost drank out of my spit bottle once. I left it on the sofa table with the cap off and he grabbed it and went to drink. I never told my wife about it because there would be hell to pay. I did hear about some side effects corresponding to Chantix, but from what I understand there is no proof. There was some story awhile back about someone "dying" from Chantix -- turned out the person who died using Chantix was killed for reasons unassociated with the drug. I guess it was someone who pissed off a neighbor... and the neighbor shot the man to death. Not sure how that involves Chantix but the media still decided to add "Chantix" as a possible reason for his death. There were some other revealing "stories" about possibly suicidal or depressed mood changes when on the drug, but thus far there this is only from a minority of people taking the drug. And the FDA is "investigating" it, but I think the positive effects from using the drug (quitting nicotine) far outweigh the negatives. Besides, I took Chantix for three months and didn't have any such side effects as mentioned above, and I did quit smoking. Since then I for some stupid reason thought "just one" dip wouldn't hurt. And just like that, I'm dipping again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Agent Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 I did hear about some side effects corresponding to Chantix, but from what I understand there is no proof. There was some story awhile back about someone "dying" from Chantix -- turned out the person who died using Chantix was killed for reasons unassociated with the drug. I guess it was someone who pissed off a neighbor... and the neighbor shot the man to death. Not sure how that involves Chantix but the media still decided to add "Chantix" as a possible reason for his death. There were some other revealing "stories" about possibly suicidal or depressed mood changes when on the drug, but thus far there this is only from a minority of people taking the drug. And the FDA is "investigating" it, but I think the positive effects from using the drug (quitting nicotine) far outweigh the negatives. Besides, I took Chantix for three months and didn't have any such side effects as mentioned above, and I did quit smoking. Since then I for some stupid reason thought "just one" dip wouldn't hurt. And just like that, I'm dipping again! That guy was a famous musician in the Dallas scene. I had never heard of him but (from what I hear) he was very talented. He and his fiance were taking Chantix and drinking heavily. He beat the hell out of her (he had never shown any signs of aggression previously) and then ran out the back door...jumped a fence...then started trying to bang down the neighbors back door. The neighbor warned him then shot him dead. Neighbor said he was firing a warning shot above the dude's head but the musician was 6'5". I don't know much about the drug but watch for the side effects. I think they tell you don't to drink while on this drug. If you go nutz and bang on your neighbor's door, do it in the crouching position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted February 8, 2008 Author Share Posted February 8, 2008 apparently a few people on chantix had phsycotic episodes ( i cant spell well ) but more people have succeeded using it then those who got violent i wont use it though ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrunt Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 That guy was a famous musician in the Dallas scene. I had never heard of him but (from what I hear) he was very talented. He and his fiance were taking Chantix and drinking heavily. He beat the hell out of her (he had never shown any signs of aggression previously) and then ran out the back door...jumped a fence...then started trying to bang down the neighbors back door. The neighbor warned him then shot him dead. Neighbor said he was firing a warning shot above the dude's head but the musician was 6'5". I don't know much about the drug but watch for the side effects. I think they tell you don't to drink while on this drug. If you go nutz and bang on your neighbor's door, do it in the crouching position. I have some of the hottest college students as my neighbors (about five 23-25 year old hotties in one house), so if I get aggressive maybe I'll go over there and start a pillow fight. That is true, they do tell you not to drink alcohol while on the drug. Which is fine with me. I think any drug has the potential for serious side effects though, and as long as you take care of yourself and understand the warning signs while taking the drug -- things should work out OK. The story of the Dallas man killed is interesting because he never showed signs of this type of aggression before. But when someone clearly missuses the drug (and drinks heavily on it after told not to), serious side effects are much more likely to occur. At least the guy quit smoking, though, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Agent Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 I have some of the hottest college students as my neighbors (about five 23-25 year old hotties in one house), so if I get aggressive maybe I'll go over there and start a pillow fight. Lucky Bastage. Here's a link to the story. Dallas made a huge deal out of this. I guess he was a good guy and just went crazy. Very strange story and I think this incident is the straw the started the Chantix investigation. http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dw...t.9abfe1fe.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 I have some of the hottest college students as my neighbors (about five 23-25 year old hotties in one house) I call BS unless provided with some conclusive photographic evidence. Professional Material is acceptable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrunt Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 I call BS unless provided with some conclusive photographic evidence. Professional Material is acceptable Hmm.... I'll take you up on that offer and see what I can do. Oh man, if they caught me sneaking pictures of them from across the street I can only imagine the backlash I'd receive. But still, it's worth a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Agent Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 At least the guy quit smoking, though, right? He may have been cremated...so he smoked even after his death. Hell...here I come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Hmm.... I'll take you up on that offer and see what I can do. Oh man, if they caught me sneaking pictures of them from across the street I can only imagine the backlash I'd receive. But still, it's worth a shot. It'll be a lot worse if they catch you in the bushes outside their windows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted February 8, 2008 Author Share Posted February 8, 2008 Hmm.... I'll take you up on that offer and see what I can do. Oh man, if they caught me sneaking pictures of them from across the street I can only imagine the backlash I'd receive. But still, it's worth a shot. excellent when you do do not forget to also Persuade Me as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrunt Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 excellent when you do do not forget to also Persuade Me as well Will do. I'll probably just start a new thread and see who'd like me to Pass Material from my computer to theirs It could take a day or so, but I'll get it. I even have this Zina Mini Cam w/ keychain that I got from Woot awhile back. Maybe if I time things right I can be outside the same time they are and take a few pictures. Haha... I always enjoy a challenge so this could get interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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