WJW Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 The annual SOFA 10-Team League draft has begun. Due to schedule issues we had to turn it into a slow/email draft instead of a live one. You can follow along at the link below. John Tuvey continues to represent The Huddle in this long standing industry league. DRAFT SO FAR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2v Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Picking #8; through three rounds I have Graham, Brady, and AP. Pretty happy with that start. 2V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Picking #8; through three rounds I have Graham, Brady, and AP. Pretty happy with that start. 2V and now Cruz in round 4...looks good, keep it going and good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grey Pilgrim Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Interesting 5th round pick. Great job so far. Nobody I "love" at this spot. But several I would be comfortable owning. It would be nice to find an RB that you like at this spot. Reggie Bush might be the pick if you believe in him at this point, but if not I like A. Brown about this time, but wouldn't hate V Jax. Good luck deciding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2v Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Took Bush in R5 for two reasons. 1, he was far and away the highest ranked RB left on my board, and when I start hemming and hawing over a pick I remind myself a lot of work went into that draft board and to trust that work and stick with the board. 2, those WRs you mention as well as a couple others should still be on the board when I pick again in five picks. One of the teams has 3 WR and no RBs, the other has 2 WR and 2 RB so I'm thinking maybe one or at most two WRs go before I pick next. We'll see what turns up. 2V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grey Pilgrim Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Gotta agree with Reggie. He is not on my "to draft" list, but in a PPR league as a 2nd RB he can fill the need. Especially if you have strengthened other positions in rounds 1-4. Nice "homework" on what the 9th and 10th rosters needs were. Picking in the 3rd spot or the 8th spot gives the drafter a reasonable chance of deciding who will be there on the flip side. Especially if you have a short list of players that you like on the flip, not just one. For that reason alone I like the 3rd and 8th spots. Bush is so injury prone, so I would look to deepen my RB spots as soon as prudently possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Muto Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) If this is 4 pts per TD pass I can't understand how come the QB's went so soon. Seems to me in a 10 team league you can wait a very long time for a really good QB and suck up value at RB/WR/TE and have 1 heck of a deep team. Someone is going to get a nice value in a Romo/Rivers/Peyton Manning/Eli Manning type QB who will put up 330-350 pts for an 8th/9th round type pick while those spending a 1st/2nd on a QB will get 400 or so pts. The RB's are thin and it be a boom to teams who grab a RB there in round 2/3 instead of a QB. Matt Ryan at 41 is even more puzzling as I feel once the "Big 5" are off the board it is best to wait to nab whichever QB falls from that 2nd tier. Some awfully good players at 41 being passed up. Edited August 20, 2012 by Henry Muto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) If this is 4 pts per TD pass I can't understand how come the QB's went so soon. Seems to me in a 10 team league you can wait a very long time for a really good QB and suck up value at RB/WR/TE and have 1 heck of a deep team. Someone is going to get a nice value in a Romo/Rivers/Peyton Manning/Eli Manning type QB who will put up 330-350 pts for an 8th/9th round type pick while those spending a 1st/2nd on a QB will get 400 or so pts. The RB's are thin and it be a boom to teams who grab a RB there in round 2/3 instead of a QB. Matt Ryan at 41 is even more puzzling as I feel once the "Big 5" are off the board it is best to wait to nab whichever QB falls from that 2nd tier. Some awfully good players at 41 being passed up. One thing that certainly challenges the "wait on a QB" rule is that the top end has been lifted. Five years ago, if a guy threw over 30 TDs, he was top 3. Look at most of Manning's seasons. High 20s, low 30s. So there was little reason to go big at the QB, considering how many decent options were putting up mid 20s. You simply weren't giving up that much. Two things happened. 1) The top end got stretched. Now, if the top guys are throwing 40+ and 5K, they're laying waste to the guys throwing mid 20s and 3500. 2) There simply aren't that many can't-miss options at RB. WR, on the other hand, is loaded with options. So, sure, in a smaller league like this, you can still get a fine enough QB if you wait, but the spread between "fine enough" and "elite" seems bigger now than it used to. I still take the big 3 RBs and Megatron before any of the QBs. But after that, I think it makes perfect sense to start looking at the top of the heap regardless of league size. I mean, someone took MJD, a guy who's not even in camp and may repeate Chris Johnson's mistake last year, before a guy that you can slot as sure-fire elite at a very high scoring position. That, to me, is foolish. Something that only could have been explained by saying he knew he could still get one of the big 3 QBs coming back, but still was not worth taking a guy who is not in camp and he didn't end up grabbing Brady or Brees anyway. And I like the Ryan pick. I actually like him more than the others after the top 5 and, by the way things are shaping up, that tier will be picked by the time that guy gets another pick. Edited August 20, 2012 by detlef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbforbes Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 j2v: I was surprised by your pick in Round 1, going TE in general, Graham in particular, while leaving Gronkowski on the board. I note that the Huddle's top 200 listing has Gronk in the 20s and Graham in the 30s. I know that you know what you are doing, and would love to know your thought process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2v Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 One thing that certainly challenges the "wait on a QB" rule is that the top end has been lifted. Five years ago, if a guy threw over 30 TDs, he was top 3. Look at most of Manning's seasons. High 20s, low 30s. So there was little reason to go big at the QB, considering how many decent options were putting up mid 20s. You simply weren't giving up that much. Two things happened. 1) The top end got stretched. Now, if the top guys are throwing 40+ and 5K, they're laying waste to the guys throwing mid 20s and 3500. 2) There simply aren't that many can't-miss options at RB. WR, on the other hand, is loaded with options. So, sure, in a smaller league like this, you can still get a fine enough QB if you wait, but the spread between "fine enough" and "elite" seems bigger now than it used to. I still take the big 3 RBs and Megatron before any of the QBs. But after that, I think it makes perfect sense to start looking at the top of the heap regardless of league size. I mean, someone took MJD, a guy who's not even in camp and may repeate Chris Johnson's mistake last year, before a guy that you can slot as sure-fire elite at a very high scoring position. That, to me, is foolish. Something that only could have been explained by saying he knew he could still get one of the big 3 QBs coming back, but still was not worth taking a guy who is not in camp and he didn't end up grabbing Brady or Brees anyway. And I like the Ryan pick. I actually like him more than the others after the top 5 and, by the way things are shaping up, that tier will be picked by the time that guy gets another pick. Definitely some of that factored into the decision to take Brady where I did. I'd love to wait on a QB and get Ryan later on, but in this situation I'd rather go with the relatively sure thing of Brady and take a shot with an RB or WR later on then (in my mind) reach for a less than sure thing RB and then get a good but not necessarily elite QB later on. 2V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2v Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 j2v: I was surprised by your pick in Round 1, going TE in general, Graham in particular, while leaving Gronkowski on the board. I note that the Huddle's top 200 listing has Gronk in the 20s and Graham in the 30s. I know that you know what you are doing, and would love to know your thought process. The top two TEs are pretty even in my mind; what separates Graham from Gronk for me is that while Gronk added a receiver (Lloyd) to the mix who is likely to take some of those catches, yards, and TDs off his plate, Graham lost a receiver (Meachem) from the mix. Potentially a few of Meachem's balls head Graham's way now. Also, because you know I always bring it back to the offensive line, sans Carl Nicks the running game might be just a little less potent at the stripe. So maybe the play action toss to the TE gets called an extra time or two. Bottom line I see more ways for Graham to repeat or even exceed last year's numbers than I do for Gronk to do the same. As for the decision to go TE in R1, as I noted above there were no real RBs I felt comfortable with. And WR was deep so worst-case I thought I could get 2 I liked in the 3/4 area. Then AP fell and I had to take him, but I still got Cruz in the 4th and VJax in the 5th. Getting one of those elite TEs, who should far and away outscore the rest of the league at their position, gives me a big advantage at that position every week. If the rest of my roster can merely hold serve, it's a win. 2V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Muto Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 So I guess me getting Bress at 3.11 in my FBG Championship was pretty good then. I still hated taking him that soon because I know was passing on a stud starting WR at 3.11 and you just can get that back. Sure you can take another good WR in rounds 4, 5 or 6 but guess what that means you have 2 stud or 3 stud WRs if you do that. You keep adding on it isn't about getting a stud WR later it is about getting 2 or 3 of them instead just 1 or 2. At least that is how I look at it. Also when taking a QB early you are chasing RB's and passing value by usually later on trying to catch back up. At least that is how I look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Muto Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 By the way love the show fantasy football weekly listen every Saturday on Podcast since I never get up before Noon! That is my all time favorite fantasy football show it is what I look forward too every week JV! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) So I guess me getting Bress at 3.11 in my FBG Championship was pretty good then. I still hated taking him that soon because I know was passing on a stud starting WR at 3.11 and you just can get that back. Sure you can take another good WR in rounds 4, 5 or 6 but guess what that means you have 2 stud or 3 stud WRs if you do that. You keep adding on it isn't about getting a stud WR later it is about getting 2 or 3 of them instead just 1 or 2. At least that is how I look at it. Also when taking a QB early you are chasing RB's and passing value by usually later on trying to catch back up. At least that is how I look at it. Apparently, one of your 35 leagues is filled with guys who don't care about QBs or has a scoring system that doesn't pay them. But, quite simply, dude is not going to be there at pick 30-something in most drafts and it's not because guys are taking him way too early. And, for the record, I'm typically not the guy who grabs a QB early. Edited August 21, 2012 by detlef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 By the way love the show fantasy football weekly listen every Saturday on Podcast since I never get up before Noon! That is my all time favorite fantasy football show it is what I look forward too every week JV! Henry you're still here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 By the way love the show fantasy football weekly listen every Saturday on Podcast since I never get up before Noon! That is my all time favorite fantasy football show it is what I look forward too every week JV! you know I write all of 2v's jokes for that show right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Muto Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Griffin at 113 a great pick but having taken Brady at 13 means he just sits on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2v Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Griffin at 113 a great pick but having taken Brady at 13 means he just sits on the bench. Not this week. And if I can't eventually trade RG3 (or Brady, for that matter), at least his points are on my bench rather than in my opponent's starting lineup. 2V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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