Skrappy1 Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 (edited) Ok, this year's class isn't too strong, so it's not that surprising that there wasn't many inductees today. I am disappointed that Goose Gossage and Jim Rice didn't get in today though. They both deserved it, and with this year's class, this was probably their best chance. I think that the whole of Gossage's career was better than Sutter's, so this does bother me a bit also. I do think that Sutter should be in, he basically invented the split-fingered fastball, but so should Goose. Sutter had 8 good years out of his 12-year career, while Gossage's 10-year run from 1975 to 1985 is about as good as any relief pitcher ever. Edited January 10, 2006 by Skrappy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skrappy1 Posted January 10, 2006 Author Share Posted January 10, 2006 (edited) Gossage's 10-year run from 1975 to 1985 is about as good as any relief pitcher ever. 1258113[/snapback] I just added up all of the statistics. I removed 1976 from the equation since Goose was mostly a starter that year (started 29 games). The other 9 years of that 10-year run, Gossage's numbers were: 76 Wins - 54 Losses 253 Saves 974.6 Innings Pitched 923 Strikeouts 2.06 ERA Pretty good 9-year stretch if you ask me. Definitely HOF worthy. Sutter's best 9 years of his career was from 1976 to 1984, and his totals from those years were: 58 Wins - 60 Losses 260 Saves 890 Innings Pitched 753 Strikeouts 2.54 ERA Again, I'm not trying to say that Sutter shouldn't be in. I absolutely think that he should, I just don't see how Gossage got left out again, yet Sutter made it. Edited January 10, 2006 by Skrappy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 I hope Buck O'Neil gets elected from the Negro Leagues when that committee meets in February. This man has done more to keep the memory of the Negro Leagues alive than anybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooty Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I agree again about Buck. Not so sure about Goose. I think Lee Smith may have actually been better. Goose had a longer career but also played when saves where harder to get. Rice is the one getting screwed he should be in and maybe Dawson too. Jayson Stark has some good analysis on espn.com about why for a couple guys. Please tell me how Hall Morris got 10 and Gregg Jeffries got 2 votes???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cherni Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I was watching Peter Gammons last night talking about Goose. He said he has a close friend that is a statistician by trade. This guy by crunching the numbers determined that Goose is the best closer in history. He didn't get very specific, but as far as I'm concerned what Peter Gammons says goes. I think he has some of the better ideas and insight concerning baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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